New FCE 4.0 User - "Warning - Dropped Frames"

Okay, so... I've captured some video that I'm trying to speed up significantly (1000%+). When I play it back I get a warning after 4-5 seconds of play that reads -
"One or more frames were dropped during playback"
Then it says to do one of the following:
-Increase Disk Speed
-Decrease # of RT Layers
-Limit RT Bandwidth in User Preferences
The dialogue also suggests I turn off "Unlimited RT" & lower the compression data rate. Sadly I'm not exactly sure what to do or what all this means. Is this even really a problem? What should I do?
Also... I'm using a Sony DCR-TRV22 MiniDV Handycam. I have FCE set to DV-NTSC. I wasn't sure what the differences between that and the 32KHz variations were. Could someone explain?
Thanks.

The AUDIO can usually be recorded as either 12bit or 16bit.
If it is 12bit you use the "DV-NTSC 32KHz" Easy Setup otherwise you might get sync problems.
However, this is unlikely to cause dropped frames.
Usually you are taking the computer to its limits. Try rendering your clip and it should playback OK.

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#12 Dropped frames on capture/playback
Shane's Stock Answer #12: Dropped frames on capture/playback
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58640
1) Do not capture to your main system drive. Since it is busy reading the operating system and application files, it will intermittently drop frames during capture. Capture to a separate internal drive, or external hard drive (firewire and eSATA for example).
2) Deactivate any anti-virus/filesaver software, including Norton and Virex. For some reason these programs think that the large files created when you capture media are in fact caused by some sort of virus, and they try to prevent this.
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http://www.fcprescue.com
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Message was edited by: ExplosiveDuck

Tom Wolsky: If you go to an Apple Store, they have H.264 all over the TVs and tout how well it works as compression. I would be willing to bet a high majority of people I know who use Windows would never have heard of H.264, and I would be willing to bet that the high majority of Mac users I know would definitely have heard of H.264 - that has legs to it.
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