New iMacs better than my Mac Pro?

So would the new 27-inch iMac top of the line out in Dec 2012, be a better/faster station than my MAC PRO 3.0 early 2008 with 3TB storage, 12GB RAM and a ATI 5870 card?
I'd be editing both CS6 and Final Cut Studio 3 on it.

In case Allan was unclear: Absolutely not.
I have a early 2008 MacPro 8x 3.2GHz (16GB RAM / 8TB Storage I've upgraded to SATA3 and have dual 27" Samsung monitors and a 37" color grading monitor on an Matrox MSO2 mini. I wouldn't trade it for a pile of new iMacs.

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my CoreDuo 2ghz almost matches my old Power Mac Dual G5 using Logic - i say almost because i recently got a Core Audio Overload message on the iMac trying to play a big session i created on the G5 (where i never got such a message). but as i said before, i think the new Core2Duo chips will erase any doubt re: intel imac vs. power mac g5 (dual)

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I'm not sure if you've returned the monitor but I had the same problem with my new Mac Pro.
Basically the Dell monitor doesn't identify itself properly via Mini Display Port/Thunderbolt and newer Macs think it's a TV so the wrong kind of signal is sent to the monitor.
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Here's what you do:
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http://embdev.net/topic/284710#3027030
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ruby ~/Desktop/patch-edid.rb
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Authenticate with your user password (if asked)
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That's it - you won't have to do this again unless you erase and reinstall your mac.
Hope that helps someone.
Cheers
Ben

New iMac faster than my MacPro?

I've recently purchased a new 24" iMac for a 2nd home I have out west. After a few days tinkering with it I'm pretty positive that this new machine is quicker than my 2 year old MacPro that I have at home. I was hoping after looking at the specs below if people could confirm that this should be the case.
The reason I'm wondering is that I even though the iMac is brand new, the Mac Pro was and still is far more expensive than the iMac. The main reason I would like to know for sure is that since I work from home and have fairly advanced needs (two VMWare Fusion vms running on top of OSX 60+ hours a week working with important financial software), if the iMac is indeed faster I may be looking for an upgrade. Before I essentially toss my $2700 MacPro to the side though I want to make sure the lag that I notice that I don't yet see on the iMac couldn't be simply cured with an OS reinstall, which hasn't been done in over 2 years.
I'm also a little unsure of how to compare the Xeon vs the current Pentium processors, as well as how important the 1067mhz vs the 667mhz ram is to my needs. I basically run two Fusion VMs with 1gb dedicated to each one in Unity, Safari, iTunes, Mail, Adium, and Skype occasionally.
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I'm also a little unsure of how to compare the Xeon vs the current Pentium processors
No Intel Mac has ever had a "Pentium" inside.
The Mac Pro would be faster for applications that are designed to use multiple processors. It has 4 cores versus 2 in the iMac.
VMware Fusion has a option (in the virtual machine's settings) to use more than one +virtual processor+, but it is not as efficient booting the OS directly. Also, it probable that things like the financial software you are running on the virtual machine is itself not designed to take advantage of multiple cores. Therefore, CPU clock speed becomes the overriding factor for performance in your case. Since the new iMac runs at 2.93 GHz versus 2.66 GHz for the Mac Pro, it is certainly possible that your iMac is faster than the Mac Pro, in your situation. If you were running Final Cut Studio or Logic Studio (or other app that takes advantage of all the cores), the Mac Pro would be faster.
Also, Snow Leopard has a new technology called Grand Central Dispatch
http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/#grandcentral
which is supposed to make use of multiple cores more efficient under Mac OS X. I don't think it will have too much impact on existing third-party software, but it will be interesting to see what the developers at VMware and other third-parties software firms can do with it. So your Mac Pro with four cores may become more efficient (faster) under Snow Leopard.

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I bought a new Apple I bought a Mac Pro Retina screen, since I got it keeps crashing ALL the time!!! This is my first Mac computer and I am hating it!!! I assume I can take down to the any store and they will replace it??

I have a similar problem, my MBP Retina 15" 6 weeks old crashes and locks-up all the time with just about every application. I now have gone back to using my old MS XP system, it is much more stable than Mountain Lion OS and Apple hardware. I use Window-7 at work for last 6 months, not a single crash and/or lock-up. I'm looking at returning/selling my MBP and getting a Window-8 system, Apple is now building crap hardware and software. I recommend you consider the same solution. Good Luck !

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https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-2295
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Which one is better for me Mac Pro iMac?

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Rock and hard place - lets say there is a perfect storm - and you have been though too many OS "1.0" versions to know that new hardware + new OS and the "787Dreamliner" shake-down cruise.
A Mac Pro 2010 as a backup machine yes, backup machine, for $1800 that runs 10.6.8 and up, as I would never rely on or have just one computer for my business. And still get the next model when / if etc.
Even a new MacBook Pro Retina is quite a lot packed in - and portable - as a 2nd system.
Ideas for systems and performance upgrades:
http://www.macperformanceguide.com
Mac Pro: 4x4TB storage, SSD system, 48GB RAM, 6-core 3.33GHz processor - even though "old" is still solid mature and "known entity." Cutting edge is not ideal for a professional business. And custom 12-core 3.33GHz if money is not a burden.
iMac lets you outgrow but offers those Thunderbolt storage. But a Mac Pro can use large SAS storage arrays off ATTO PCIe controller. So it is only when sharing a TB box, which are still at this point more propritary and really if it doesn't support mini-SAS/SATA along with TB...

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Hello,
I'm sorry, but I believe that an Intel Core 2 Duo is
much faster than the MacPro's processors. Having 4
processors does not mean that the machine will be
faster.
Also, please note that the MacPro and iMac both have
different processors from a different family. Tha
MacPro's processors are designed for servers and
multi-tasking. Playing games is not multi-tasking.
Also, most high-end Windows XP machines have Intel
Core 2 Duo processors in them rather than the
processors that the Mac Pro has.
Sure, the MacPro can be upgraded but there is only a
limited number of hardware that can be put into a
Mac. With Apple, you probably won't need to
upgrade... atleast for 4 or 5 years, depending on
one's usage.
Please consider this,
Robert
I'm sorry, but you are very mistaken. The processors in the iMac are low-power (i.e. laptop) version of those found in the Mac Pro's. The Mac Pro's processors are even faster than the iMac, and not because there is more cores. The Mac Pro is powered by Core 2 Extreme processors, while the iMac is powered by a Core 2 Duo. Intel even quotes the Core 2 Extreme to be "the world's best gaming processor". So the Mac Pro is no doubt more powerful, but since we talking games here, the 2nd processor (3rd and 4th cores) won't get used. A wast of money to get them IMHO. So my recommendation is get the iMac with a 7600GT and 2GB of RAM (or more).
Further reading on the subject:
Intel's Core 2 Extreme (aka Xeon): http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2XE/index.htm
Intel's Core 2 Duo (aka Merom): http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/index.htm
iMac 1.83Ghz, 1.5GB RAM (Jan 2006) Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Mac Pro or iMac? Benefit of Mac Pro not clear

I have an older G5 PowerPC tower, which I bought back when the performance difference between it and an iMac was significant. But as I ponder replacing it, I am having a hard time seeing the benefits vs. cost of the Mac Pro tower. Other than expandability, is the Quad-Core processor that much better than the iMac's Core 2 duo? Assuming that expandability is not important to me, why should I consider the Mac Pro over the iMac? Here are two examples from a current MacMall catalog:
• 27-inch iMac, 3.06 GHz Core 2 duo processor, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB hard drive, $1,694
• Mac Pro, 2.66 GHz Quad-Core processor, 3 GB RAM, 1 TB hard drive, $2,594
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Terry,
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The Hatter, a pc builder will tell you that the 2009 quad-core singles use standard OEM INTEL processors with integrated heatsinks.. while the duals are lidless and don't use oem.
This is good news if one is trying to save a lot of money on a processor upgrade..

New hard drive in a Mac Pro - my experience.

After taking delivery of my MacPro I was keen to add an extra hard drive to use in conjunction with amateur level video editing and photo imaging software.
At first I bought a 3.0 Gb/s, 320 GB Seagate 7200.10. and it worked Ok but did not seem any faster than the OEM drive (250 GB Western Digital SE) . XBench confirmed that it was in fact 20% slower overall.
I then consulted this forum and read the many posts re the Seagate firmware problem and other suggestions for suitable hard drives. To be honest it was all great stuff but, for me, a little overwhelming. So today, back went the Seagate in exchange for a 3.0 Gb/s, 250 GB, Maxtor Diamond Max 10 which was all I could afford. I installed the drive, what a dream the MacPro is, partioned it and ran XBench. The Maxtor is 2.5 to 3 times faster than the Seagate and is a quiet drive.
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I see plenty of SATA 3Gbs drives - what do I look for in terms of specs. The dimensions are listed in the Mac Pro booklet, however, what type of connector is needed or not needed - seems no cables are needed... how many pins, etc.????
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I need to buy some new hard drives for my Mac Pro

I had an extra internal hard drive in my Mac Pro, a Seagate one, that suddenly stopped working and I needed to send it to a data recovery company, so...
Now I'd like to
- Install a new internal HD
- Install a NAS with two/three disks. (Hitachi if possible, as I have read are the ones that last longer, more reliable than WD and by far more than Seagate).
But to do that I'd like to know how to find out the right type of disks for my computer.
I'd be very gratefull if anyone would tell me where to look it up.
Thank you in advance
In case any of you can help with this, these are the details of my Mac Pro
thanks again
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63b)
2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Memory 7GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
Model Name:          Mac Pro
Model Identifier:          MacPro1,1
Processor Name:          Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:          2,66 GHz
Number of Processors:          2
Total Number of Cores:          4
L2 Cache (per Processor):          4 MB
Memory:          7 GB
Bus Speed:          1,33 GHz
Boot ROM Version:          MP11.005D.B00
SMC Version (system):          1.7f10
Serial Number (system):          Not Available
Hardware UUID:          00000000-0000-1000-8000-0017F20F9F40
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The only HD now
Intel ESB2 AHCI:
Vendor:          Intel
Product:          ESB2 AHCI
Link Speed:          3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed:          3 Gigabit
Description:          AHCI Version 1.10 Supported
ST3250824AS P:
Capacity:          250,06 GB (250.059.350.016 bytes)
Model:          ST3250824AS P
Revision:          3.BQK
Serial Number:                      9ND1P4X7
Native Command Queuing:          Yes
Queue Depth:          32
Removable Media:          No
Detachable Drive:          No
BSD Name:          disk0
Medium Type:          Rotational
Bay Name:          Bay 1
Partition Map Type:          GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status:          Verified
Volumes:
disk0s1:
Capacity:          209,7 MB (209.715.200 bytes)
BSD Name:          disk0s1
Content:          EFI
HD INTERNO PRINCIPAL:
Capacity:          249,2 GB (249.199.591.424 bytes)
Available:          37,91 GB (37.914.918.912 bytes)
Writable:          Yes
File System:          Journaled HFS+
BSD Name:          disk0s2
Mount Point:          /
Content:          Apple_HFS
Recovery HD:
Capacity:          650 MB (650.002.432 bytes)
BSD Name:          disk0s3
Content:          Apple_Boot

NAS is of course external and depends on how you access it. And then t he ideal for RAID5 for instance woudl be WD RED series, but those do not work inside Mac tower.
Look up "TLER" regarding WD drives and RAID.
Apple does not endorse or anything, not in decades and when there were problems - G5 and early adoption of SATA and changing standards and features, it was users that did the troubleshooting.
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That is a subtle distinction, but I think you are right.
Use an iMac with Thunderbolt as a display
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I have a 2008 Mac pro that's working well. Since I'm doing a lot a video creation that needs to go to DVD I'm not ready to give it up. but I see the need for a more modern machine for some of the newer software I would like to use. so here is the question.
Can I use a new iMac as my primary machine, and send the video files to the mac pro for rendering, compression, and storage?
also can I boot up an older OS (snow leopard) from a disk on the mac pro?
thanks

You can use file share
iOS: About File Sharing
You can use remote desktop to control hte Pro by another computer
OS X Mavericks: Allow access using Apple Remote Desktop
http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/

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