New Leopard upgrade crashes my PowerPC G5.

The stability of my computer is gone. Since the upgrade my Power PC G5 fails completely at least once a week. You know you get something bad going on when your screen goes dark gray with the big warning in the center telling you to force shutdown your computer by holding down the power button. Well that’s just the beginning of my misery. Next is the quite routine failure of each individual software (so far it happened with iPhoto, iMusic, Safary, Photoshop) as if is unable to launch due to the permission failures. The only option I have is to shut down everything and restart my computer.
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This seems to be a pretty standard answer to a lot of people's questions about why Leopard is failing. My question is, why do all these components fail after installing Leopard? Clearly many users are reporting that their computers ran fine with Tiger and only had problems after installing 10.5. So, why would an OS update bring out all these failures? Is Leopard that intensive to cause these parts to fail? Would they have failed regardless and it's just coincidence that it happened at the same time 10.5 was installed? If users have older Macs should they worry that Leopard will cause their memory, drives, CD/DVDs, etc. to start failing?
Also, why is some of these users report going back to Tiger and then everything works? Did Tiger somehow "fix" these failures. That's what happened in my case:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1254893&tstart=0
(BTW, I could use some help with this)
I'm not questioning your answer, but you could logically explain why this reason is so often cited?
Just curious... I also have a PPC G5, should I install Leopard, or will I also encounter hardware failures? Should everyone vigorously test their systems before installing Leopard?
THanks for your help!

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Process: iChat [4410]
Path: /Applications/iChat.app/Contents/MacOS/iChat
Identifier: com.apple.iChat
Version: 4.0 (601)
Build Info: iChat-6010000~1
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [115]
Date/Time: 2007-12-07 02:39:09.080 -0500
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.1 (9B18)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 18
Application Specific Information:
* Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'Failed creating colorspace for index (9)'
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0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9231d8e6 machmsgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x923250dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.framework.IOKit 0x929db303 ioconnectmethod + 592
3 com.apple.framework.IOKit 0x929673f6 IOConnectCallMethod + 300
4 com.apple.framework.IOKit 0x929675e7 IOConnectCallStructMethod + 84
5 com.apple.Bluetooth 0x002b62b1 BluetoothHCIDispatchUserClientRoutine + 85
6 com.apple.Bluetooth 0x002b6980 BluetoothHCIReadLocalVersionInformation + 78
7 com.apple.Bluetooth 0x002b2acd IOBluetoothLocalDeviceReadVersionInformation + 171
8 com.apple.Bluetooth 0x002b2b65 IOBluetoothGetVersion + 87
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10 com.apple.iChat 0x00103abf 0x1000 + 1059519
11 com.apple.AppKit 0x911644ce -[NSPreferences _selectModuleOwner:] + 849
12 com.apple.iChat 0x000fa5f6 0x1000 + 1021430
13 com.apple.AppKit 0x911d8944 -[NSToolbarButton sendAction:to:] + 100
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x911d88d5 -[NSToolbarButton sendAction] + 88
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x911d7e54 -[NSToolbarItemViewer mouseDown:] + 5076
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x91092d9b -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 5362
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x9105fa2c -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 2766
18 com.apple.iChat 0x0003c9fe 0x1000 + 244222
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x90fbd705 -[NSApplication run] + 847
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x90f8a9ba NSApplicationMain + 574
21 com.apple.iChat 0x00003aba 0x1000 + 10938
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2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92cb30fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92cb3d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.IMUtils 0x95b46dcb -[IMRemoteObjectBroadcaster _workerThread] + 246
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x93ecc04d -[NSThread main] + 45
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x93ecbbf4 _NSThread__main_ + 308
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234eced pthreadcondwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.viceroy.framework 0x003607dd CameraList_Thread + 349
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234e075 pthreadstart + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234df32 thread_start + 34
Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x92324ace _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234eced pthreadcondwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x95475f32 glvmDoWork + 162
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234e075 pthreadstart + 321
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2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92cb30fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92cb3d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x952867c2 CFURLCacheWorkerThread(void*) + 396
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234e075 pthreadstart + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234df32 thread_start + 34
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1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x94f2709b objcexceptionthrow + 40
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8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234e075 pthreadstart + 321
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9234df32 thread_start + 34
Thread 18 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0xa02fd0f0 ebx: 0x94f2707c ecx: 0xa02fc1a0 edx: 0x006a6000
edi: 0xa0310520 esi: 0x007a83b0 ebp: 0xb0c45b78 esp: 0xb0c45b78
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000286 eip: 0x92d2d114 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x2ec23000

Read Tom Tech's Post in this thread http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5856625&#5856625
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My question hasn't been answered here, but I seem to have found the answer myself, eventually.
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Lo and behold, as my old Grannie always said, I could successfully rebuild my Inbox. All my much-regretted previous emails appeared again! It was an emotional reunion.
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While you may be correct, just where would you get Tiger install disks? As far as I know you cannot buy Tiger for Intel machines because they ship with Tiger now. If you go to the Apple Store and check on Tiger you will see the hardware requirement is "PowerPC G5, G4 or G3 processor"--not Intel. When the machines ship with Leopard you will have Leopard install disks and you'll be out of luck. Also I seem to remember that Apple does not recommend installing a system older than the one the machine ships with. Perhaps it would work anyway (though even if you knew someone with the same machine purchased with Tiger installed, you would both have to violate the legal terms for you to "borrow" and install it), but I'm not willing to take any chances nor to violate the legal thing. I'll be buying my new Mac at the end of the month.
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Francine
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Console not logging after Leopard upgrade

Hi everyone
I've had a number of problems after the Leopard upgrade, the most serious of which is not being able to get my POP mail (separate post in the Mail and Address Book forum), but I'm also puzzled as to why Console.app isn't logging "console" anymore.
Other logs continue to add data, including the SpamSieve log and crash logs, but "console" only goes up to when I upgraded to Leopard, three days ago: it says nothing after that point, despite several restarts.
There are older "console" logs, but none newer than that date.
I'd like it working, because it's such an important part of checking and fixing things.
I have no idea why it is not logging: your suggestions are most welcome.

Clytie wrote:
I'd like it working, because it's such an important part of checking and fixing things.
It is working, but in a different way.
Everything gets written to a Log Database these days, and the messages that would previously gone to the old console.log appear there as "Console Messages" under "Log Database Queries" in Console.app.
system.log is unusual in that it still exists although everything written there also goes to the database. However I think you'll find that every console message also goes to system.log (but not vice-versa).
The only reason you have "older console logs" is because you did either an Upgrade or an Archive & Instal. I did an Erase & Instal and there are no console logs.

How to Uninstall Leopard Upgrade and go back to Tiger

I would like to go back to Tiger and was wondering how to uninstall the Leopard upgrade without having to do a full reformat. Is this possible? Thanks in advance!

nerowolfe wrote:
fenderltd wrote:
I would like to go back to Tiger and was wondering how to uninstall the Leopard upgrade without having to do a full reformat. Is this possible? Thanks in advance!
First, welcome to the Apple boards.
Backup what you have because it probably contains things from the original update you want to keep - network settings, passwords, etc. A bootable clone is your best bet - and test it out.
Then you need to format your HD (full, not quick) with the Leopard DVD and then reboot with the Tiger CD and install it. I am not sure how much you can migrate "downwards" from the Leopard backup, but some things will probably come along OK. Not sure about mail since it was converted by Leopard - will it unconvert? Don't know.
I have read of some who tried to simply install Tiger over Leopard but the results were less than great. You can try it once you have that clone backup, because you won't be losing anything.
I would suggest unplugging the clone during the erase and install process until you get to the migration point.
Message was edited by: nerowolfe
I have a brand new Leopard based MacBook Pro that I need to revert to its previous cat form of Tiger. Would you mind walking me through it? I have Tiger disks that came with another MacBook Pro so those should have all of the machine specific items I will need. As I understand this, I start the computer from the included Leopard disk and do a full format. (I noticed that there is a new partition style named GUID Partition, is this Leopard only?) Next, I load in my Tiger disks and install from those? I do not need to do any system backups as I have no information on this computer as of yet. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Brian

Can't Print After Snow Leopard Upgrade

I have a home network centered around an Apple Airport Extreme Base Station. The base station is wired to a Linksys network switch which, in turn, is wired to two computers - an Apple Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.11 and a and Mac MIni which, until yesterday was running Leopard. I have an HP Laserjet P1006 connected to the USB port of the AEBS and, until yesterday, everything worked fine. Yesterday, I ran the Snow Leopard Upgrade on my Mini and now the Mini won't print to the HP over the network. If I connect the printer directly to the MIni, it works fine; as soon as I reconnect the printer to the AEBS, the Mini will no longer print. The lights on the printer will flash but nothing comes out. I have downloaded the HP Printer driver update from Apple but this didn't help. I have reset the AEBS, to no avail. The G5 running Tiger has no problems with printing. And, my daughter just got a brand-new MacBook Pro loaded with Snow Leopard from the factory and she can print to the HP over the network without any problems.
Any ideas?

When I upgraded iMac from Leopard to Snow Leopard 10.6 it also stopped printing wirelessly to Brother MFC6490CW.
I thought I had this same issue with my Epson printer when wireless printing. Actually, in SL, wireless printing is very slow at least with an Epson. Takes about 5 minutes or so for wireless print to even start. When checking the printing status app, it will start out saying "printer ready." Then after a few minutes it will say "looking for printer." A few minutes later it will say "printing."
When I go into the next room where the printer is, the green light is "flashing" letting me know that "printing" has started.
So I guess what I am trying to say is to check the printing status app after you click "print." It's possible "Brother" is just as slow as "Epson."
Message was edited by: CMCSK

Tiger to Snow Leopard upgrade fails with buffer overflow

I'm not sure where to proceed with the following situation:
I have a 17" MB pro with 1GB memory and 22GB free hard drive space. I booted into the installer from the CD and stepped through the prompts without changing any options to the point where the install starts doing it's magic. Shortly after starting, the install will crash complaining about a buffer overflow during/just after the part where it's finding system files.
I originally tried to do this with only 10GB free, but after the first failure, I did a repair disk using the Disk Utility and removed a bunch of really old files I no longer needed, which brought the available disk space to 22GB, but this did not help anything. At this point, I'm not sure what to do. I use Carbon Copy Cloner as a backup so I can do a full wipe and install, however I would prefer to avoid that as it is a lot of work to get things back.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
Error log follows. I cut out a lot of stuff so please let me know if that detail is needed.
Sep 10 10:35:26 localhost OSInstaller[142]: Total install size including padding: 7325778944 b
Sep 10 10:35:28 localhost OSInstaller[142]: Starting installation:
Sep 10 10:35:28 localhost OSInstaller[142]: Calculating expected install size requirements
Sep 10 10:35:28 localhost Unknown[84]: 2009-09-10 10:35:28.624 Mac OS X Installer[142:c607] Looking for system packages
Sep 10 10:35:42 localhost Unknown[84]: 2009-09-10 10:35:42.115 Mac OS X Installer[142:c607] Finding system files...
Sep 10 10:36:01 localhost Unknown[84]: buffer overflow!
Sep 10 10:37:55 localhost LCA[83]: Child exited with status 6
Sep 10 10:37:59 localhost Unknown[162]: Launching the Installer Crash Log Viewer
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Process: Mac OS X Installer [142]
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Path: /System/Installation/CDIS/Mac OS X Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Mac OS X Installer
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Identifier: Mac OS X Installer
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Version: ??? (???)
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Code Type: X86 (Native)
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Parent Process: LCA [83]
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]:
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Date/Time: 2009-09-10 10:36:12.446 -0700
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6 (10A432)
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Report Version: 6
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]:
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Crashed Thread: 9
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]:
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: Application Specific Information:
Sep 10 10:38:32 localhost ReportCrash[159]: abort() called
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a brody wrote:
Regarding the need to buy the packaged bundle, I keep seeing folks here and elsewhere claiming that is not necessary.
That's because they have not read, or concern themselves with the license agreement. Section 2. "Permitted License Uses and Restrictions", section C says on http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx106.pdf
It's been read forwards, backwards, and upside down. Nowhere on the packaging is there any identification of the $29 (or $49 family pack) version as only suitable as a "Leopard upgrade" version. There are vague mentions about it on Apple's online sales page and in press releases. I've read the license terms thoroughly and the only conclusion that could reasonably be conferred is that the $29 version carries a "single user" license simply because it doesn't say "family pack". There are plenty of reports that it installs over Tiger just fine.
Granted I've read numerous reports and I installed my copy over Leopard. However - imagine someone who vaguely heard about it, walked into a store and bought a copy, thoroughly looked over the box and the license terms (within the disc), and installed it in good faith over Tiger. There is ZERO, ZIP, NADA on the package that would lead anyone to believe it is anything but a copy with a "SINGLE USER" license where the terms don't preclude installing over Tiger.
C. Leopard Upgrade Licenses. If you have purchased an Upgrade for Mac OS X Leopard license, then subject to the terms and conditions of this License, you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer as long as that computer has a properly licensed copy of *Mac OS X Leopard already installed on it.*
The emphasis above is mine.
While this may not be enforced by a software key, it is there in the license agreement on the PDF included on the CD, when you purchase the under $100 licenses, which are also called "Upgrade" on the store.
There's an opinion that "Leopard upgrade" only applies to the "Up To Date" versions that require proof of purchase of a recent Mac computer. The reports on those installer discs are that they do in fact check for a valid Leopard installation.
The following has the most in-depth discussion on the subject of whether or not the license allows for Snow Leopard over Tiger that I've seen so far:
http://www.mackb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/mac/26361/the-29-purchase-price-of-Snow-Leop ard
This is the best description I've heard on it, from someone who identifies himself as "David Empson":
http://www.mackb.com/Uwe/Threads/Single.aspx/mac/26361?ArtId=1j5mofd.1pw6lllbtpj dwN%25dempson%40actrix.gen.nz
If someone walks in and buys Snow Leopard, without written notice from
Apple that they are buying an Upgrade version which requires Leopard,
and without discussing that point with the seller, the buyer is under no
obligation to have researched their purchase in advance and know all of
Apple's publicity statements from three months ago.
They are buying it in good faith, and the contract (licence) is valid.

How do you RE-INSTALL Leopard 10.5 over already installed LEOPARD upgraded?

I have an iMac computer that originally had Tiger installed. I did all the updates to Tiger and was ready for Leopard. I used "Super Duper" and cloned my hardrive before I installed the new Leopard (10.5 dvd) using th UPGRADE option. After installing Leopard (UPGRADE) and upgrading to 10.5.2 I felt I might get better results with either a "CLEAN INSTALL" or an "INSTALL & ARCHIVE." So, I put the LEOPARD 10.5 DVD back in my Mac, thinking the INSTALLER CHOICES of UPGRADE, ARCHIVE & INSTALL or CLEAN INSTALL would show up again and I could just ERASE this version of Leopard and do the CLEAN INSTALL or ARCHIVE & INSTALL and start over! Well when i put the DVD in the BIG X with the install and restart but not the INSTALL CHOICES? i tried 'OPTION" key hod down and "C" key hold down. what do I do? Thanks in advance for your support and help

baltwo wrote:
If you installed the Time Machine & Airport update, the install disk probably doesn't recognize the HD.
really?? I would find that very strange. Archive and install should definitely be possible anyway. At the screen where one sees the choice of a disk to install to, there should be an "Options" button. Clicking on it should bring up a screen with a choice of upgrade and install (I believe that's the default), archive and install, and erase and install. Choosing archive and install should allow one to proceed.

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