New Mac 8-Core

Have ordered a new Mac but I need some advice on the possibility of running an old Digi Studio 4 Midi Interface. Currently I'm using a GeeThree Stealth serial out from my aging DP G4. Does a MacPro have an internal modem, and if so is it kosha to install the stealth card?
If this is not possible are there any other options? I'd hate to lose all of my outboard synths and effects all in the name of progress.
Keith Moore

No matter what the computer is, midi interface will work, or if your current interfaceits is,nt compatable with mac-pro you could pick up a midi interface for under $40. I'll tell you this going with a 8-core mac/pro, there no better way to go about it, soon there will be sofware developers working with 8 core, very complex route though, but apple keep stepping the game up, and as the hardware is here already, the sofware will follow, some ppl today might say their no need for 8 core, because no one have seen sofware that support it, however if that was the case why would apple make such an amazing machine, who wants to miss-out on today,s technology yesterday is all history, good luck on your choice of purchase.
Fr. Blayzay.

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