New mac pro making a lot of noise
my mac pro is not even a month old... but after about 15 mins of use it makes a lot of noise.. i think it's the cooling fan. it is noticeably much noisier than my 3 yr old macbook. and it seems to get pretty hot as well (hotter than my old macbook)...
has anyone got the same issues?
During the time it's getting really hot and you're not doing any heavy-load work, check Activity Monitor and check your CPU usage. Do you have any apps that are hogging the CPU at that moment? Carbonite is a big problem with CPU usage, if you have that installed, I'd watch that. Also, you could try downloading some utilities that check fan speed/temperature. If the fans are revving for no real reason, could be an issue.
It wouldn't hurt to reset the PRAM and SMC, as this can have an affect on the fans.
Bryan
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I am ready to purchase a "real" Mac, but I'm hesitating because the improvements just don't seem that great. I have two questions:
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2. Has anyone evaluated any of the new Mac Pro chips for general day-to-day use? I'm interested in processing through my images as quickly as possible, so the actual latency to demosaic and render from the raw originals (Canon 1-series) is the most important metric. The second thing is having reasonable performance for multiple brushed-in effect bricks.
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Thanks.
BenThanks for writing. Please don't mind if I pick apart your statements.
"For an extra $200 the 5870 is a no brainer." I agree on a pure cost basis that it's not a hard decision. But I have a very quiet environment, and I understand this card can make a lot of noise. To pay money, end up with a louder machine, and on top of that realize no significant benefit would be a minor disaster.
So, the more interesting question is: has anyone actually used the 5870 and can compare it to previous cards? A 16-bit 60 megapixel image won't require even .5GB of VRAM if fully tiled into it, for example, so I have no ability, a priori, to prove to myself that it will matter. I guess I'm really hoping for real-world data. Perhaps you speak from this experience, Matthew? (I can't tell.)
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Ben -
I apologize in advance for the length but I need some help in making a decision.
SITUATION:
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ISSUE:
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I would like to know what you guys recommend for my situation.
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Good review on new vs old Mac Pro
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I feel you outgrow an iMac sooner while almost impossible with Mac Pro (other than new software and such in 6 6yrs time) One is an investment and can be upgraded. No throttling (hopefully) and Haswell cpu while nice is not a 24/7 Xeon designed for the type of work loads.
http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2013/20131218_3-MacPro-CPU-choice.html
http://www.macperformanceguide.com/
If it weren't for the fact that software in 6 yrs will require newer hardware to meet the demands, your nMP will still be going strong. Other than Apple dropping support for whatever OS X in 5-6 yrs instead of 8-10 years it would still be able to run and do what it is designed for for years to come. Say that about an imac that can be outgrown or "why did OS X 11.99 make my system slow?"
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I know FC only uses one GPU presently from the developer. That will change. In the meantime, using a couple of typical projects with that plugin as an example, I'm only seeing 25-45% speed up in renders over our maxed out iMac (late 2012, 27") exporting the same project. That's significant of course but not the 100%+ one would think we would be seeing at the least given the MacPro config of 8 cores and dual D700s. Premiere Pro CC seems in fact to never maximize CPU (never mind GPUs). I have yet, in my very limited testing, see it "pin the meters" like I did on the iMac.
Of course that's just testing now two short (under 5 min) projects, and it depends on what one is doing. Some stuff is much, much faster like Red Giant's Denoiser II or Warp Stabilizer VFX. The improvement there can be 3-4x faster anecdotally. I used to avoid them for speed reasons unless absolutely needed a lot of the time but now they are fast enough to rely on quickly. Other stuff unrelated top PPro CC like DxO PRIME noise removal on RAW stills is much faster too, as is Photoshop CC. Some effects like blur, sharpening, resize there are nearly instant now even on giga pixel files in Photoshop CC.
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I just tested 5K Red raw files just dragged into Premiere Pro CC (latest version). I expected this to be slow, given my HD experience. However, on my 8 core/D700, I can play 1/2 just fine, full speed. And I even can also do that with a very streneous plugin/filter attached - FilmConvert (in OpenCL mode), also at 1/2 which is quite impressive. I can even add a bunch of other Premiere filters and SG looks and it still stays at full speed at 1/2.
Ironically, this is quite faster than FCPX which can't seem to play back 5K at all with that filter attached (it doesn't stutter, but it's not smooth... low resolution at "best performace" and reduced frame rate). Even if I remove all filters FCPX plays back Red 4k (again not transcoded) about the same as CC at 1/2, but with a seemingly lower resolution to keep it smooth. It's a head scratcher. It's like Adobe's Red handling is much better coded than Apple's in this case.
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This experience is the opposite with HD, where FCPX is significantly faster (using the same filters/plugin, using C300 Canon XF for HD and 4 and 5K RedRaw alternatively). Premiere seems slower in HD than FCPX by a good amount in HD and signficantly faster with Redraw 4k. Go figure. -
New MAC PRO: itunes audio playback-stuttering, glitching, skipping
I have a brand new mac pro 3.2ghz quad, with 8gb ram (bought a couple weeks ago). All seems fine with the exception of brief skips, glitches and stutters with audio playback in itunes. I tried updating to itunes 11 and this did not resolve the problem. My music files play fine on my girlfriends macbook pro (purchased over a year ago), and never had any problems on my old machine (imac 24inch aluminum). I went to apple with the problem and after multiple system recoveries they determined that the computer was faulty and sent me a replacement. I just received the replacement and tested out some downloaded music from the itunes store and the same problem happened. Am I just unlucky to get two computers with this issue? Is it the Mac Pros? Has anyone had this issue with mac based machines, specifically the mac pros? I saw another thread on the issue but seemed to be primarily windows users running itunes. The skipping happens as frequent as every 20-30 seconds to every few minutes, but it is definitely enough to notice
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Baffled,
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I seem to have discovered this problem this weekend. I listen to a lot of music from my apple devices and have done for years. What I have noticed this weekend is that both my Macbook 2008 and iMac late 2010 both suffer with a brief stutter every minute or so making the enjoyment of listening to music a little annoying. Both are running Mountain Lion 10.8.2. My iMac is running the 2.93 GHz intel i7 processor with 8GB ram. Playing music should be a doddle!
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While I'm not able to supply a fix I think its safe to say its not your new Mac Pro. One other thing to note is that I have been running up until this weekend a 7 or 8 year old Mac Mini as a media device in my kitchen playing Apple Lossless format with no issues at all. This device however is running Snow Leopard with all updates applied. The Macbook is now playing the Lossless music with stutters that was ripped on the Mac Mini that was playing OK.
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Take care
Paul -
Well, they're out and on the AppleStore and I have about £2800 burning a hole in my pocket...
My question is, for that money I can configure either an 8-core machine running at 2.26GHz, or a quad-core running at 2.93GHz. Can anyone tell me which route is likely to be better for running Logic with lots of tasty plug-ins? I've budgeted for 8Gb of RAM and a second hard drive for sample data, so it's just the processor(s) left to decide on.
At the moment I'm running it on a 1.83GHz Core Duo MacBook Pro, where it limps along painfully, so I don't really have any experience of how well it utilises extra processing cores. I'd welcome any advice.Hey MIke I agree that some thought should given to technology 5 years down the road but you are making my point about chasing technology. Its all a guessing game. Look at TVs. Look at phones. Etc.
Technology is moving so fast that you have to just use your gear in the moment and hope for the best.
It is not realistic in 2009 to predict 5 years down the road. Its just a big guess. What about the Mac pros that come out in 2 years. Will they make this years new Mac Pro obsolete? People will be having this same discussion in 2 years? They might not even make a desktop in 5 years. Look at the power of laptops now. Desktop sales are very weak and if this trend continues they will fade. I bought my 8 core almost a year ago and I would have had to wait a year if I chose to chase technolgy. When I bought my Apogee Ensemble I did think to myself that great they will probably release a new Ensemble with more Mic inputs. But I am glad I got it and use it and no worries. We are at the mercy of Apple so they will dictate the future and they arent going to tell consumers their 5 year plan anyway. Ok I will shut up. -
New Mac Pro internal PCIe flash disk Ae cache - partition?
I have ordered a new Mac Pro, 8-core, D700s, 64 GB RAM, and the 1TB PCIe internal flash boot drive. I would like information directly from Adobe on how to best utilize the internal flash drive as my cache drive for Ae, Pr, Au and Ps.. With 1TB, I figure I can allocate half towards being my dedicated cache for Adobe apps. My question is, is it best to just create a folder on the boot drive to use as my cache, or is it better to partition the drive into two halves-one half for the boot and documents, and the second partition as the dedicated cache drive? I'm thinking it might be a good idea to partition so that the boot half of the drive is protected from wear from the heavy writes incurred by the caches? Any other advice specific to optimizing Adobe apps for the nmp would be appreciated too. Thanks.
Wear leveling is done at the drive level, not the partition level, so partitioning won't help with that issue.
Partitioning has the advantage of making it so that if your cache fills up it won't run your boot disk out of space, which Mac OS still doesn't handle very gracefully.
What I opted to do was to get an external SSD drive for cache. Why? Because caching puts a lot of stress on the drive and it's a lot cheaper to replace a standard SATA SSD drive than it is to replace the built-in Apple-specific SSD.
That was my thinking anyway. We'll all know more after the new MacPros have been out for a year or two.
Bob Currier
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Does the new Mac Pros Universal Binary Programs use more RAM than the G5 PowerMac?
Overly simplificatiion.
And for many applications, they would still be compiled with 32-bit switch on, they don't need to address 4GB of memory. The GUI is still really not fully 64-bit even.
But code tricks and methods that worked well for the G4 and limited address space, those don't work as well and code is loaded and compiled differently (or should have been). The lack of L3 hurt some too and took a hit in performance and latency making for lack-luster memory performance sub-par from what was expected, and that could be be curied without moving to a new platform or design.
But the MacPro and G5 do probably need about 1.5GB of RAM to run smoothly, which means you have to install 2GB in the MacPro - just for basic use and needs. While waiting for a 2nd GB to ship from Apple my system was constantly using over 900MB from just casual use (web browsing, word processing, email).
I've never been able to figure out how much Rosetta needs, but it seems that it has its own address space and VM all its own.
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if my fan is making a lot of noise do i need to bring it to apple, or is there something I should try first?
The suggestion to reset the SMC is a good one, just in case the power management in your Mac needs a reset.
However, the fan loudness depends a lot on the type of Mac you are using, and also on the programs you are running.
Our iMac (2008) Core 2 Duo has fans, but you'd never know it as they run only with the quietest hum, if at all, or I just can't hear them.
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My macbook is suddently making a lot of noise, what's happening and how can i fix it ?
my macbook pro is suddently making a lot of noise, whats happening and how can i fix it?
Direct you to the proper forum for MacBook :
MacBook Series Forums
https://discussions.apple.com/community/notebooks?view=discussions
http://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro
Mac OS X Help
ExpressLane
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http://www.apple.com/support/macbasics/
Isolating Issues in Mac OS
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1388
https://www.apple.com/support/osx/
https://www.apple.com/support/quickassist/
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Using a 30" Cinema Display with new Mac Pro
Hello Everyone:
I just purchased, and waiting to arrive a new 2014 8 core Mac Pro which is an upgrade to my 2009 quad core Mac Pro. I currently use a 30 inch Apple Cinema display which has the DVI connection. I was thinking that I would use a DVI to HDMI adapter and plug the 30" into the HDMI port on the new Mac Pro. I have since heard that people have been having issues with this older monitor getting it to work properly with the new mac pro. some have suggested buy the $99 mini display port to DVI adapter and using that, but I don't believe there is a mini display port on the new mac pro.
I have considered buying a new thunderbolt display because I am assuming that it will have a much better image quality than the older 30 in display but I hate the fact that it's a 27" and I would be giving up the 3" in size. I do a lot of video and audio recording editing and love the extra screen real-estate. Can anyone confirm a couple of things for me?
1. Will the 30 inch display work with a new mac pro and can I use the DVI to HDMI adapter?
2. Does the new Thunderbolt display have a much better image quality than the 30 in display and because its newer, will look that much better with the mach pro?
Thank you in advance.1. Will the 30 inch display work with a new Mac Pro?
Yes.
Can I use the DVI to HDMI adapter?
Not if you want full resolution. You need a Mini DisplayPort to dual-link DVI adapter
<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB571Z/A/mini-displayport-to-dual-link-dvi-ada pter>
It plugs into a Thunderbolt port (and USB port) on the computer.
2. Does the new Thunderbolt display have a much better image quality than the 30 in display and because its newer, will look that much better with the Mac Pro?
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