New mac pro slower

I have a brand new 2x2.26 GZ Quad core Intel Xeon and a much older 2.66 GZ dual core Intel Xeon and I've noticed that the new computer seems oddly slower in FCP - so I ran a test. I used the same 10 second clip on both computers and applied a filter (bloom) to both clips. I rendered them both and the old computer finished the render faster than the new computer.
I'm using OS 10.7 (I just noticed that 10.8 is out) and the latest FCP upgrade - 7.0.
I've been told that Snow Leopard will take more advantage of the 8 core processing. I certainly hope so because I'm running out of ways to make my new computer faster than my old one.
Is anyone else running into this? I'm hoping I'm doing something wrong because I put a lot of money into this new computer.
Thanks.

Only way to know is pull the Kona. Would be interesting to do a test drive with FCP 7 on the older system.
Reminds me of the "PowerMacs run PPC code better" from 3 yrs ago.
FCP owners/forum have any words of wisdom - and some benchmarks??
http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MacProNehalem.html
http://www.barefeats.com/nehal08.html
http://www.barefeats.com/nehal06.html
ATI 4870?

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hallo everybody,
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Thank you for the history of the posts here.
I might add, Dano, your experience is actually quite unusual. In fact your mileage can be much worse on a PC. Viruses can wipe out ALL your data in an instant on a PC, while not on a Mac. Mac users at worse if there is something unstable usually only lose data if there is some hardware or software issue. So backing up your data is a prerequisite for owning any kind of computer.
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If you prefer to not allow comments on closed threads I would suggest closing the threads to editing. In the future I will link from my thread to the solved one however if my thread finds a better solution there will be no way of pointing from the closed thread to a better solution.
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RAM PREVIEW VERY SLOW (FAR FROM REAL TIME) ON NEW MAC PRO

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Hi GW,
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Then please update your profile, as it still shows the mini and Leopard.
And I'll ask a Host to move this to the Snow Leopard > Time Machine forum.
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