New Mac Pro
I am finally going to replace my original intel Mac Pro for one of the newer configurations but amd wondering what is best for the work I do.
Other than photo manipulation in Photoshop and Lightroom it will be used primarily for Logic user and upgarding to X with the purchase. I have upgraded my 3rd party plug ins to 64 bit in anticipation.
Now...what should I go for? Budget wise I am looking at either a Quad core with 64GB memory or a 6 Core with 32 GB.
I am OK with the 256GB System drive as I have a 4TB LACIE Thunderbolt drive.
Your thoughst are welcome folks.
Thanks in advance.
Tim
4 core vs 6 core for Photoshop/Lightroom/Illustrator?
http://www.macperformanceguide.com/blog/index.html
Which Mac Pro Model to Buy if Upgrading the CPU? 01/06
Hoping to Test a Faster 8 Core Mac Pro
On paper, and these Geekbench results from the 6- and 8-core support this, it looks like you really can’t go wrong with any of the CPU options below the 12-core — the deciding factors should only be cost and how much parallelism you can take advantage of.
It looks like you’re paying a lot for slower clock speeds as the cores increase, but that’s not the entire story. Those weird Turbo Boost numbers, which are easy to pull from here and here, are worth understanding before choosing a modern Intel processor.
http://www.marco.org/2013/11/26/new-mac-pro-cpus
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1660838
Mac Pro 2013 6-core Geekbench Scores
http://www.marco.org/2013/11/05/geekbench-mac-pro-hexcore
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sry for the english..
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