New mac vs. replace hard drive?

My iMac hard drive totally died, crashed, stopped working. : (
Do you suggest getting a totally new computer or just replacing the hard drive? What are the advantages/disadvantages of either choice (cost, difficulty, etc.)

Well I would do this first, Try using Disk Utility to do a Disk Repair, as shown in this link, while booted up on your install disk.
You could have some directory corruption. Let us know what errors Disk Utility reports and if DU was able to repair them. Disk Utility's Disk Repair is not perfect and may not find or repair all directory issues. A stronger utility may be required to finish the job.
After that Repair Permissions.
No need to report Permissions errors....we all get them.
Post back if this didn't help!
  DALE

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