New MBA Sandy Bridge Graphics vs. Current NVIDIA

Is anyone here familiar with the new Sandy Bridge Intel Graphics and the current MBA's NVIDIA offering? I've read that the new Intel IGP is supposed to be "on par" with the NVIDIA chip, but I'm curious if this will actually be the case, or if it's possible that Apple will have Sandy Bridge alongside a dedicated mobile video card still - or if the new MBA graphics will disappointingly lag behind in graphics.
Thanks!
.t2h

Hi Take,
If you ever have a chance to browse the MacBook Pro forums, you'll find that a lot of people weren't aware of Apple's design decision. What's worse... these are from people that already bought the machine. I suppose if you're an "old school" Apple person then you just assumed that the Pro line has the discrete. You figure until the introduction of the 13" MBP and Apple's brief experiment with the cheaper entry point of the 15" MBP, all of the MacBook Pros had discrete GPUs, whereas the MacBook had the shared.
Even more surprising was that the recent refresh of the 13" MacBook Pro didn't include the LCD panel found in the 13" MacBook Air with the 1440x900 resolution, it's still using the 1280x800.
Unless you're an avid gamer, the Intel HD 3000 & Nvidia 320M are perfectly adequate. I've yet to encounter a game I couldn't run, albeit, on lower settings. Regarding the update, we'll have to wait and see. But it's no secret that the recent refresh of the MacBook Air was a huge success for Apple (they're very public about that), so you'd have to assume that Apple will continue to ensure that it stays current with technology.

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common sense Harm,
our not oced Sandy bridge ranked 13th beating any stock processor. (for some reason you have it listed as OCed)
remove the absurbly overpriced Xeons that makes it 8th
remove every OCed processor its now #1.
and its #1 without the absurd 8-12 drive raid arrays... which most people have no need for.
for the average user your recommendation like mine was the 950 stock 950 which ranks 40th is severaly beat by the 2600 not oced..
so your replacement recommendation should be as mine is, the 2600 over the 950 all day long..
anything less you are arguing with your own bencmark?
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Sandy bridge is ok now I hope? New build help.

I did do some searching on here and am building a new machine to work with ppcs5.5 .
This forum has the best tech guys I have ever seen so I will do my best out of respect to make my text ramblings clear lol.
I have built the Videoguys DIY 8 system http://www.videoguys.com/Guide/E/Videoguys+DIY9+Its+Time+for+Sandy+Bridge+E/0xe9b142f408a2 b03ab88144a434e88de7.aspx
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