New Mobo

I am currently using a K8T Neo-FIS2R with at with a 3200+. I am looking into making a new machine and need some help in choosing a new mobo or ordering another of the same. I want to have at least 1gig of mem and am hoping for a pci-express board (if that looks like it is gonna replace the AGP slot anytime soon).
Any suggestions?

Hi and welcome to the forum.
I would suggest a NFoce 4 board (Ultra or SLI, depends on what you need it for). If you don't want to invest so much, get a MSI K8N Neo.

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Looking for newer Mobo, like the MS-7345 Platinum P-35.

Hello,
I'm thinking about upgrading my P-35 MS-7345. I really like the MSI brand. I'm going on 5 years, but because of possible GPU issues (like screen ghosting, Non-responding, and timer continues to spin, even when I make a very simple video action, like adding a transition, everything freezes and hangs, to the point of rebooting.
Some people have asked if i updraded Win7 drivers for the MSI boardw hich i'm sure i did. Some asked me to check the board for bad or damaged caps, so I checked both the GPU, and Mobo, but could not see anything. Then someone told me it could be the Power supply...really?
In looking at Video cards, Like the PNY Quadro 600 ($150.00) requires a PCi-E 2.0x16, which I have now, but the higher end cards like the PNY Quadro 2000, ($400.00) and others, reqiuire a PCI-E 3.0x16.
WISHY WASHY~ Don't know if i should wait to get a new mobo, before I buy a new card, becuz it's going to be a while. I don't want to buy the Q600 DDR3 now, to be obsolete and a non-performer compared to the Q2000 DDR5, which would be more faster, then I wonder, i7, more DDR3 memory, and a new Mobo, then use a slower DDR3? Ummmmmm.
To be honest, I like MSI, I bought my new MSI Platinum five years ago, and love it! I'd like to keep it if i could, but technology supercedes practicallity, with the newer atx case with front USB 3.0 (mine is only 2.0....if it's backward compatible, then fine.) I'd like to ahead of the game, but not if i'm going to go BROKE!
With my old build, with the mobo, Intel Quad Q6600,700W Toughpower PSU, memory,hard drives, That set me back about $1200.00.
So..... for someone like me who is not a gamer, does not overclock, wants a minimum of 32GB DDR3, 700W PSU, three SATAII hard drives, does anyone have some Mainboard choices of newer LGA 1155 or 2011 that would either of these work?
This time, I'll need the i7 (or i5) new mobo, new DDR3 memory...up to minimum 16GB, maybe 32GB, and that's that. I'll use what I can,. or give or sell this tower and everything inside to my sister.
I was only looking at these two for specs:
Z77A-G43 DDR3 1600 LGA 1155 ($ 97.00) OR
X79A-GD65 (8D) ATX DDR3 2400 ($ 291.00)
I know the MS-7345 Platinum is off the production, but is there a board out there that's similar to the MS-7345 P-35? {it's just easy to set up.}
MAINBOARD ~
MSI P35 Platinum/Intel P35 Chipset Crossfire 1395 (MS-7345)
POWER SUPPLY ~
Thermaltake "TOUGHPOWER" 700W ATX 12V - 2.2 & EPS 12V
CPU ~
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz (4 cpu's)
DISPLAY ~
EVGA Nvidia Geforce 8600GT (512MB) DDR2 128-Bit
(Memory clock speed 700MHz / HDCP Capable PCI-e / Total memory 4071MB (Driver version 8.17.12.9610) 2-29-12 DirectX11
MONITOR ~ 20" Viewsonic - VX2035WN
60Hz ( Screen Res. 1280 x 800) True Color (32 Bit)
HARD DRIVES ~
Boot drive > WD SATAII - 74GB Raptor (10,000 rpms) 16MB > 4.6MS
Storage drive > WD SATAII - 2TB Green (7200 rpms)
Storage drive > WD SATAII - 500GB Caviar Blue (7200 rpms)
External drive > Seagate 3TB
OPERATING SYSTEM ~
Windows 7 Pro OEM (64 Bit) (6.1, Build 7601) SP1
BIOS ~
American Megatrends Inc. v.1.10 / 11/10/08
Current Bios version - 1.A0 / VGA Bios v. 60.84.41.00.06
MEMORY ~
8GB DDR2 / PC6400 / 800MHz (8192 MB) RAM
Available Physical memory - 6.12GB
Paging file > 4463MB Used, 11917MB Available
AUDIO ~
Realtek High Definition Onboard Audio
CASE ~ Coolermaster CM 690 / ATX
MAINBOARD ~
MSI P35 Platinum/Intel P35 Chipset Crossfire 1395 (MS-7345)
POWER SUPPLY ~
Thermaltake "TOUGHPOWER" 700W ATX 12V - 2.2 & EPS 12V
CPU ~
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz (4 cpu's)
DISPLAY ~
EVGA Nvidia Geforce 8600GT (512MB) DDR2 128-Bit
(Memory clock speed 700MHz / HDCP Capable PCI-e / Total memory 4071MB (Driver version 8.17.12.9610) 2-29-12 DirectX11
MONITOR ~ 20" Viewsonic - VX2035WN
60Hz ( Screen Res. 1280 x 800) True Color (32 Bit)
HARD DRIVES ~
Boot drive > WD SATAII - 74GB Raptor (10,000 rpms) 16MB > 4.6MS
Storage drive > WD SATAII - 2TB Green (7200 rpms)
Storage drive > WD SATAII - 500GB Caviar Blue (7200 rpms)
External drive > Seagate 3TB
OPERATING SYSTEM ~
Windows 7 Pro OEM (64 Bit) (6.1, Build 7601) SP1
BIOS ~
American Megatrends Inc. v.1.10 / 11/10/08
Current Bios version - 1.A0 / VGA Bios v. 60.84.41.00.06
MEMORY ~
8GB DDR2 / PC6400 / 800MHz (8192 MB) RAM
Available Physical memory - 6.12GB
Paging file > 4463MB Used, 11917MB Available
AUDIO ~
Realtek High Definition Onboard Audio
CASE ~ Coolermaster CM 690 / ATX

If you already looked at X79A-GD65 (8D) and you are going for 16GB ram minimum or 32GB a Socket 2011 Core i7 would be a good choice. If you are just looking for an easy to setup system a X79A-GD45-8D would be of the same socket without any flaws but still somewhat less expensive.

Re-using HD with XP and new mobo ??

I know this is a dumb question but ...
I have a 2-yr old ATX mobo running XP and a Athlaon 1500+ cpu. Instead of incrementally upgrading the system, I think I will buy a new
mobo and start fresh. My question is ... can I connect up my previous HD and run WIN XP with it? Can I get this to work without having to
wipre clean the HD and starting with a fresh install of XP? I have a bunch of apps and files on the HD I'd liek to hang onto.
Thanks,
Rob

I don't question that the "safest" option is to do a clean install. But sometimes the prospect of installing ALL of your applications and patches again can be so daunting that you really can't face it. (It usually takes me *days* to get this done and I still end up losing apps for which I've lost the key, or can't find the key.)
But I would say in 90%+ of cases you can do an "upgrade" of XP to your new components. And why not? XP is designed to detect new components and to automatically install the drivers for them. So what stops this from working? Its nearly always the disk controller and driver. What often happens is that you power up your new hardware with your old XP config and it can't load the things it needs because the old disk driver won't work the new controller properly. You end up with a hanging system and have to do a repair or a complete new install.
To avoid this, simply make sure you change the disk controller (in Device Manager) to Standard Dual Channel Disk Controller (or whatever its called. You know the one.) Do this *before* you unplug the old hardware and plug the new stuff in.
Then boot up as normal and 90% of the time (or more) Windows will "upgrade" itself to the new hardware config. You will usually have to do a few reboots to get there, but get there you will.
What you can then do is go into Device Manager again, show hidden devices and look for anything with an ! exclamation mark against it. Delete all of those entries. Perhaps on reboot you may be asked for yet more drivers for some of the things you deleted. But maybe not. Sometimes they are just old entries for devices you don't have any more.
And that's all there is to it. You will most likely end up with a perfectly stable, perfectly performing new system with all your applications and all your patches still in place.
Just one comment: Single processor to Dual processor doesn't work too well. I don't know why, but it seems the only way to get the full speed advantages of moving to dual processor is to do a clean install. Shame.
Chip

Ok i finally decided what i will order with my new mobo. Pls tell me what you think...

Ok i got the 875p neo Fisr pcb 2.9
I have a p4 2.8(800) atm , but im thinking of ordering a 3.0 or 3.2 since i dont overclock much...
Decided to go with kingmax ramm unless someone saiys else i got a reply earlier that someone has this and it works. only thing i worry is they dont come in a duel kit so im gonna order 2 from prolly a bulk load... pc3200 kingmax . newegg has them for 80 a pop. 512 meg a stick. one thing that worries me is they are rated at 2.5 volts and if needed to crank them suckers to 2.7 then i might change the memory order if you guys think that will be a problem.
Got a bfg geforce 600gt coming from best buy for 399.(434 w/tax.)
Gonna get a vantec 520 watt psu, has oveer 25 amps anthe 12, has over everythng LOL.
I dont know what bios this new mobo is so i am wondering if after i install all if i should flash to the latest bios or not to worry about flasshing??
Woot im finally getting close to ordering , only thing i might change is no pcu if you think a 32. from a 2.8 wont make a bigg difference , or if you think the kingmax ramm rated at 2.5 volts might give me a problem . Im afraid to go corsair or very low clas like 2. these are 2.5 . Im my last board the pcb 1.0 after i bios flashed from somethng ( i dont remember which i had i could no longer run in ultra turbo)Ohh ye i had 1.92 b at that time. but for some reason it worked . My only concern is that i wont be able to run in ultr turbo, i could still run in slow on my last mobo but i lost scores in all benchmarks. Well well see what happs this time.
Ill let ya know . thanx for all of you that replied.

the neo lsr or fisr should be great boards . mine kicked butt until i messed with it and i guess the flashing which i did correctly on my board didnt undo when i went back. So all with a pcb 1.0 if it works, dont mess with it. LOL . Worked great and was very fast .
I hope the new pcb 2.0 is just as good.
ohh that was geforce6800 gt not 600 LOL. Sorry im tired been up and stressed over what i should order...
Im out .
Peace !

Buying a new mobo - any suggestions?

Im thinking of replacing my MSI i975x PUE and wondered if you have any suggestions to a new mobo?
I was thinking about the XFX 680i SLI, but since Im pretty familiar with the MSI board, it would maybe be a good idea to stick with that instead.
Is the overclocking pretty much the same or totally different with new MSI mobos?
So whats the very best (DDR2) MSI board at the moment? It must be SLI since Im thinking of buying another 8800GTS in the future. Is SLI working well on MSI boards?
And the new mobo must also be very overclocking friendly
Ive managed to get my i975x up to 3GHz, running an Intel C2D E6400 (2.13GHz stock) and since Im thinking of buying the Intel C2D E6850; will i975x still be a good choice? Maybe I`ll just keep it?
And since the holiday is pretty close; Merry Christmas to all of you
Edit; I know that my i975x PUE cant run SLI, just to point that out... :smiley:

Quote from: chico32 on 20-December-07, 00:05:32
My bad; I was just referring to what flobelix said about the nvidia chipset, but he only mentioned some RAM problem.
I do now what you need to run SLI
My PSU data;
DC Output +3.3v +5v +12v1 +12v2 +12v3 +12v4 -12v +5v sb
Max output current 36A 30A 15A 15A 15A 15A 0.8A 2.0A
Any news on the Nvidia 700 series? I dont want to wait for ages
Edit (again); Im thinking of buying the E6850 CPU for a start and see how that affect my rig. Maybe I dont need anything else than that. Ive got a very good and stable overclock, and with a 6850 onboard I think maybe it will be enough. Any thoughts about that CPU on this mobo?
They are already out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188024&Tpk=780i

New Mobo- Now OS won't boot

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here are my specs that i have now:
865PE NEO2-FIS2R
FX5600-VTD256
WD800 (w/ 8mb cache)
Intel 2.6 (Northwood)
300 Watt PSU (i don't know what info is relevant)
Ram 256 (333) i think - I don't know how to check the specs
WinXP Pro (upgraded from 98SE)
Problem:
I had all MSI components before. I brought over the HDD that had XP Pro on it. First time up it just boot up to the Safe Mode screen. 2 Beeps then a reboot to the Safe Mode again, and it keeps doing this. Note: the new mobo didn't do the regular system inventory, proc speed, ram etc. But the BIOS found everything.
Tried a boot disk, it then said that the OS had problems and couldn't boot.
I am a little fuzzy on the BIOS, so if you can help me out. I am not messing with RAID or SATA. Are there any specifics I should know. I did set ram voltage to 2.7.
I tested the Western Dig HDD and with their diag and it came out perfect. I tried to repair XP but it fails everytime. Here is the error that it gives. C:\$WIN_NT$.~LS\I386\asms "One of the components Windows needs to continue setup could not be installed."
I was beginning to think it was Gates' fault (imagine that). But then i dropped in a Win2K HDD that i had tested on another system at work. And the new HDD won't boot up either. It tries to boot up, the Win2K screen flashes and then straight to a Blue Screen. It says "Inaccessible_BOOT_Device"
Help Please!!! Let me know what other info might be helpful.
[email protected]

Well, i did finally get it to take the OS. But it would not boot to the HDD. When you first start up the pc it sets on autodetect of the primary for over 30 seconds and never finds it. You could manual boot to the HDD by a F11. I finally figured out how to flash the bios, so now i am up to date on that.
Now it will boot to the hdd, but it takes over 2 minutes and a lot of just black screen. Is there a setting I am missing in the BIOS?
I am not running any sata or raid configs. Could someone give me the basic setup for this, especially where the ide config is concerned. Or why it is taking so long to boot up. I know it isn't normal for my 1.6 never took that long.
Thanks for all of your help.
Matt

A little tip, with the X-Fi's and new mobo

I've asked around and tested some. And it seems like if the mainboard have PCI-Ex6 and 2PCI's or less, the sound got a tendence to crackle and so on. I've suspected this, as i've used my Creative X-Fi with some mobo's.
(I don't know if this is the problem, but it might me a good thing for you people, who are planning to buy a new mobo.)?System Was an AMD which had an EpoX 8NPA-SLi. (2PCi-Ex6, 2PCi)Sound worked very good. (Windows XP x64 Proffesional.)?System 2 Was Intel with Asus P5VD2-VM (PCi-Ex6, PCi-Ex, 2PCi)Sound crackled a lot and was unhealthy for ears. (Windows XP x64 Proffesional.)?System 3 Was the same Intel, but with Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA (PCi-Ex6[which infact is running 4x, but is looking like a usual x6], 3PCi)Sound worked good (Windows XP x64 Proffesional, For Vista The Sub, won't work cause of drivers and programs.)?System 4 will be tested soon. Waiting for a gigabyte mobo, which is supposed to be changed with the Asus. (PCi-Ex6, 3PCi-Ex, 3PCi)?According to some buddies on Irc, their sound works good. But no one have less ports then my system 2 had. (Most of em got 2PCi-Ex6, PCi-Ex, 2 PCi)?I can't say that my teory is worth anything, as it might be something else causing this crackle.But i think that the "IRQ"'s are different cause of the number of PCi ports on the mobo. (Anyways, i've hope this can be useful and just wrote this to try help. And i don't know how much of this has been said before and if it doesn't help out, im sorry.)?Btw, im not working at creative, i've just feel sad about these really great soundcards, which seem to malfunction in some systems.

I Installed the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 mainboard today. (Very tricky to install, especially if you get mad at the installation of cables etc.)?Anyways. I've tested the mainboard in one of the games i had terrible "crackling" in, with the Asus mainboard. And after 20minutes i've concluded that this one seems "crackle" free too. I don't know, but it seems like all mainboards i've had with many PCi slots (of all types, PCi-Ex6, PCi-Ex4, PCi-Ex and PCi.) doesn't have this crackling problem. Conclusion: Most of the mainboards, which was crackle free, had 3PCi's (Usual ones.)?Hope this will help some of you people. (The Gigabyte mainboard was tested under Windows Vista Buisness, without crackle, but with not so good working drivers, so quality of the sound is still not too good.)

Mobo is dead. Can I plug my SATA boot drive into a new mobo? *Update*

My computer has been randomly rebooting lately. Last night it shut off. When I turned the power on, all the case lights and keyboard lights started flashing but nothing happened.
I took everything apart but there were no apparent problems. I swapped in a new vid card, but the problem persists. I think that either my mobo is dead or my CPU (P4 2.4C Northwood) has died. Could this be another case of Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome (SNDS)?
Anyway, I'm going to get a new mobo and CPU and I was wondering if I can just plug my SATA Raptor boot drive into another mobo. Will that work?
What if I buy another identical MSI Neo-2 P 865PE mobo. Can I just swap out the mobo and just plug my boot drive into that?
Will putting a different CPU in the new mobo cause problems?
I don't want to reformat my drive. WHat are my options. Thanks!
-celacanth

Quote from: hybriduk on 14-October-05, 01:13:01
Yeah it will be fine plus prescott is better
Just remember not to overclock it as hard or the same will happen again
Plus buy me a 3GHz if you like lol
Good luck with your new motherboard and CPU
Yea the MSI 6278 865PE Neo-2 PFS is up to date for Prescott.
I didn't think that my overclock was that outrageous. Maybe I should also clock my vid card back a little.
I'm getting my BMW 540i back from the shop today...3 bent rims, new engine, transmission and exhaust mounts, idler pulley... It's going to be over $3,200. Another $300 to (maybe) get my computer fixed. I'm dying here.
Luckily the city will most likely reimburse me for the bent rims...they dug a trench in the road that I drove over.
You guys rule. Thanks for the help and once I get the new parts I'll let you know if everything works

New mobo(z87) new cpu, no video output n560GTx ti hawk

Hello everyone
I installed a new mobo and cpu yesterday, now my GPU suddenly doesn't work anymore.
The installed mobo is an Asus z87-DELUXE, the CPU is an Intel i7 4770k.
The GPU is a MSI N560GTX-TI Hawk, the board goes in 00AE (Legacy boot mode) mode, after a minute of being in 00AE the board goes to 00A0 which is the normal state. The screen stays black and nothing happens I cannot go to bios. The VGA_LED turns on red and stays red, this means that there is a problem there (according by the book).
All LEDS are running on my GPU and the fans are running aswel, when I put in my older MSI n9500GT it does work (this one only uses one lane + no external psu connection). The onboard graphics work aswel.
I tried putting my graphics priority to PCIE, then it worked once but after that not anymore again.
The drivers have been updated, my HDD has been wiped and a fresh copy of windows 7 x64 is installed, the bios has been updated aswel to the newest version.
When I try to use my N560GTX to test my changes and put in my N9500GT again after noticing nothing changed, I get a system repair request of windows, I tried this repair twice but now it says it can't change anything on it's own.
Have I missed anything or is my GPU dead?
My setup:
Corsair Obsidian 650d
Coolermaster GX 650W Bronze+
Asus Z87-DELUXE
Intel i7 4770k @Std clock speed - Cooled by Mugen4 PCGH Edition
Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz LP
MSI N560GTX-Ti HAWK
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM
1 Optical drive, no other drives
Thx in regards
Jonas

Well, you'd need to test the vga in another system to be sure. Could very well be a compatibility issue with your new board. Make sure it is running at the latest bios version.

Want new mobo, what to choose?

hi, im thinking of getting a new motherboard, but i dont know which to get?.
Because i wanted to upgrade my gfx card, but since i already have an x800 xt i wont get far with agp anymore.
So basicly i need a motherboard with pci-e and "normal" pci (for soundcard and extra lan)
My specs atm:
Aspire 520 W psu (should be more than enough, works fine atm)
Msi K8N Neo-V2
Amd 64 3200+ (socket 754)
Sapphire Radeon X800 Xt
1 Gb Crucial Pc3200 Ram (2x512)
300 Gb Maxtor Diamondmax 10, 16 mb cache (sata-1 or 2?) (updated firmware to work with nforce chipset)
160 Gb Maxtor ATA-133 (cant remember the rest of the name)
40 Gb Baracuda ATA-133 (cant remember the rest of the name)
Nu dvd-burner (cant remember the rest of the name)
X-Fi soundcard
so basicly the requirements are:
Socket 754
Pci-e
ATA + Sata
able to use pc3200 ram (crucial)
and of course maybe a little room for an upgrade of all the other stuff? (not required)
(if any information is missing, feel free to ask)
so any suggestions on my new mobo?
thx alot in advance...

Hof19, If you do decide to go s939 then the top pick for sli would be the Diamond Plus. The other contender for non sli would be the Neo4 Platinum pcb 1.
Diamond Plus
vs
Neo4 Platinum pcb 1
s939
s939
sli
no sli
6 SATA II
4 SATA II + 4 SATA
2 pci
4 pci
2-pci-e x16
1- pci-e x16
2-pci-e x1
1- pci-e x1
1-pci-e x4
1- pci-e x4
dual Gb LAN
dual Gb LAN
3 - IEEE 1394
2 - IEEE 1394
10 - USB
10 - USB
Creative sound Blaster Audigy SE audio
7.1 channel audio codec RealTek ALC850
Either way your gonna get a great MSI board

Put in new mobo, same model, windows doesnt load?

Hey all. Just got my mobo back from newegg (had to get a new one shipped to me, PCI-E was broken in other one)
Well this one appears to work good, but now windows doesnt load when i turn it on
Everything passes in the POST, windows goes to its like loading screen.. then i see a quick flash of the blue screen of death (like a millisecond, i cant read what it says) and my computer restarts. Do i Need to reformat because I installed a new mobo? It's a K8N Diamond Plus, same as my other one. Thanks

If you've the current with same hardware configurations then you need not to reformat it just do windows reinstallation unless if your windows is totally corrupted then my suggest is to do a fresh copied for the windows. gd luck.
P/s: please create your own rig in details including the PSU and Bios revision and put it in your signature.

Recommendations for new mobo using AMD processor

I am still successfully using my current computer built in 2008 with a K9A2 Platinum mobo. It has been a remarkably reliable mobo with literally no major problems over the years and the mobo has been easily expandable to whatever desktop hardware I have used with it. So I have been very impressed with MSI hardware technology.
But its time for a new modern mobo and computer system for me which will be a bit faster than what I am currently using. Considering how reliable the K9A2 platinum has been I am looking at buying a modern MSI mobo using one of the latest and best AMD processors. I am not a gamer, or even an overclocker, but I do want a flexible and reliable system to use. I am a programmer so that things like compilation/link/build speed and program number-crunching execution speed are important for me and of course absolutely good reliability.
I have been away from the latest computer hardware arena for a number of years, except to buy an occasional add-on for my current system, so I have to educate myself on the latest and greatest being offered, as well as new terminology. I have the money to spend for the best technologies in desktop use, and I enjoy putting together a top-flight system for what my own use case as a programmer. My computer will end up be multi-boot ( I use BIBM ) running mainly Windows 7 and/or Windows 8, as well as a smattering of Linux distros ( Suse, Fedora, Ubuntu mainly ).
I already have a top-end Lian-Li full-tower chassis, a PC-79, that can house most any type mobo, and has room to spare for almost anything I want to do with my new system.
Recommendations or suggestions about the latest MSI mobos using AMD CPUs would be welcome. With all the new technology out there it is hard to know what works well, is reliable, and is extensible for any new hardware, especially faster CPUs, in the future.

Quote from: Bernhard on 18-July-14, 04:17:30
FM2+ CPU development is at the forefront. They are APUs and are meant as a unique processing unit that can perform better in terms of integrated Graphics than anything that Intel has to offer. Their current CPU performance is not competitive. So if you want raw CPU power, then the FX8 series is the better option.
Here are the benchmark tests as performed by chip.de who apply a consistent test for most current CPU/APU. http://www.chip.de/bestenlisten/Bestenliste-Desktop-Prozessoren--index/detail/id/693/
Benchmarks: PCMark 7 (1.0.4), Excel 2010 SP1-Monte-Carlo-Simulation, Cinebench RR11.5, 64Bit, WinRAR 4.01, 64Bit, TrueCrypt 7.1 AES-Twofish-Serpent, HandBrake 0.9.5,
A10-7850K (FM2+) 3381points 12.5 seconds 3.6 points 2.3MB/sec 155MB/sec 21.5fps
FX8350 (AM3+) 3243points 5.4 seconds 7.0 points 4.6MB/sec 259MB/sec 35.2fps
Benchmarks: CyberLink MediaEspresso 6.5, PovRay 3.7 RC3, 1.280x1024 no AA, Blender 2.49b,
A10-7850K (FM2+) 4.120sec 759 Pixel/s 72 secs
FX8350 (AM3+) 2.418sec 1 429 Pixel/s 55 secs
No socket or chipset will be out there forever. Just look at the frequent changes Intel makes and how AMD has been doing the same. So one has to make a decision on the best compromise available at the time and commit.
I can see the AM3+/AM3 CPUs are faster than the FM2+/FM2 APUs. Seems strange then that AMD would stop improving the AM3 line and go entirely with the FM2 line for the future. I understand graphics are big for gamers but still there are serious programmers/workers who want speed and also want to save a little money by buying AMD instead of Intel. I admit it looks like the higher end Intel CPUs are the speed champions, and I can certainly afford them if I want, but I have always gone for the friendlier AMD processors and mobos. Maybe I am just foolish since, unlike many who buy AMD for its overclocking ability, I am just looking for speed and reliability.
Thanks for all the information !

Moving MSI K8N Neo RAID.0 array to new MOBO (from Nforce4 Ultra + Sil3114!)

Hi folks!, my MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum is GONE , and I had 5 disks on it:
Disk 1: No RAID - OS - WinXP installed
Disk 2+3: RAID.0 on Nforce4 Ultra MCP controller (onboard)
Disk 4+5: RAID.0 on Sillicon Image Sil3114 controller (onboard)
Questions are:
1- Anyone knows if ANY CURRENT MSI motherboards model is RETRO COMPATIBLE with the legacy NFORCE4 controllers (with AMD CPU)?
-> In case not, any solution to access the RAID from the NForce4?
2- Since I think no current motherboards have Sillicon RAID controllers (if you know of any, please tell me), anyone knows any PCI controller to attach to the new motherboard COMPATIBLE with the Sil3114? (I read that the new Sillicon controllers are generally compatible with the old ones), so I can access the Disk 4+5.
Thank you!
Luis

Quote from: claudermilk on 21-August-09, 08:28:58
I feel your pain. I'm also interested in a mobo with a compatible nVidia controller. In my case, it's only a dead drive that was on the 3114 controller (OS) while the nVidia is full with a 0+1 array. Unfortuately Windows refuses every drive I offer it on the 3114.
I'm thinking on doing this, what do u think? :
1- For the Nforce4 array: Nvidia offical tech support said me that all new NVIDIA RAID controllers (both NFORCE/GEFORCE) are backwards-compatible with legacy controllers like the NFORCE4 Ultra I had, so in theory, a new one should "understand" the RAID array coinfiguration metadata stored on the disks, and no information would be lost. This is as long as the RAID BIOS version of both old and new MB is 9.xx...
So in this case I'l buy a new MB with a Geforce 8200 chipset (ASUS M3N78-VN with a Phenom II 710).
The only worry is how to verify WHICH RAID BIOS version I had on the defunct MB... any idea? Is the RAID BIOS inside the MB BIOS?
2- For the Sil3114 array: I'm buying a Lycom ST-127 PCI host and connecting it on the Geforce 8200 new MB, which essentially contains the same chipset brain as the original Silicon Image 3114 I had on the MSI MB.
In this case, I'd have the same logic controller for that array...
All disks are SATA.
Any thoughts? I'll keep you posted!
Thanks, :D
Luis

Brand New mobo (P6NGM) with IRQ Conflicts, PLEASE help

I've posted multiple times in another well respected PC forum and have not resolved my issue yet. Would GREATLY appreciate assistance.
Here's my story and attempts:
I'm building a new PC for my parents:
mobo: MSI P6NGM
cpu: Pentium dual core e2200 (800fsb)
memory: 2g DDR2
video: Radeon 9600PRO 256MB PCI-E
I'm having problems in Device Manager.
the modem (Smart Link 5k Voice Modem) and something called the NVIDIA nForce System Management Controller both have a yellow-exclamation point on them and when I looked at their properties\device status says:
Quote
This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use (code 12).
If you want to use this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system.
I have all of the current drivers and latest BIOS installed (and confirmed).
I believe it's telling me I have an IRQ conflict and when I looked at the Device Manager \ Resources by Type, it tells me that there are 3 devices on IRQ 7, 2 devices on IRQ10 (my PCI-E video card and the 56k modem), and 2 devices on IRQ11 (the NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management).
I did a google search and tried disabling the com ports 1 & 2 (but could only find & disable com port 1)
but this didn't improve the problem.
I also tried un-plugging 2 front USB-2 ports from the mobo.
no improvement there either.
meanwhile, IRQs 2, 3, 4, 9, 14, and 15 are empty. Is there any way to assign to these?
Please help. I just built a dual core AMD with another MSI mobo for my daughter last month and didn't have any issues with it.

yes, i tried switching to the other PCI slot (this mobo only has 2). no improvement
Last night, I also tried disconnecting everything (3 USB ports connected to the mobo) and performing a fresh install of XP. I was extremely disappointed that this didn't work either.
I also tried unistalling all of the devices on IRQ10 and rebooting with IRQ10 Reserved (so all of the devices would be assigned to something else). Then I uninstalled the modem again and enabled IRQ10, hoping that everything would have been assigned elsewhere and only the modem would be assigned to IRQ10 this time.
NO LUCK!
I've NEVER had so much difficulty with IRQs, and only installed 2 devices: the PCI-E video and a PCI modem.

Trouble-shooting help - New Mobo

I have a brand new MS-6378 (v3) MSI motherboard + AMD Athlon 1.1GHz CPU, 350 PSU (P4 enabled), 1 x 128 MB SDRAM DIMM.
All setup according to installation guide.
Processor is AMD A1100AMS3B which indicates a 200MHz Clock, 256K L2 Cache, 1.1GHz....all within spec for the Mobo
Motherboard set to 100MHz FSB
PROBLEM:
When booting I get no Video signal (yes, it's connected correctly) and after 30-40 seconds the Mobo shuts down.
I've checked and rechecked setup and changed the FSB to 133 with no difference.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. )
Thanks,
Mike

(I not allowed to edit my mesgs...strange).
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Make sure the motherboard was installed properly to the chassis (the board should not touch the chassis)
DONE
Make sure all the components (memory, CPU, AGP & power supply connectors etc.) are properly installed
DONE
Clear CMOS
DONE
Change to another power supply
DONE
Change to another memory
Checked memory on another computer. It works great.
Change to another AGP card
N/A - onboard video driver

New Mobo

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