New OS on Performa 6400/200

ok, picked up a performa 6400 at the thrift store, it needs a new os. Have tried 2 different copies of os 9.04 i have, neither worked. Is there any trick to his I am missing?
It is also possible that the lens needs to be dusted off, cause most of this comp was very dusty. I have tried a lens cleaning cd, but that lead to no change, and I can't get to the lens to manually clean it.
EDIT: I have also tried to use the Network boot floppy, but that didn't work
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Were the CDs of OS 9 white with an orange 9? This is a retail installer with OS 9. If the CD is gray, it's for another model Mac & probably won't work.
Here's the spec sheet on the Performa http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macperforma/stats/mac_performa_6400200.html The spec sheet shows the supported OS as 7.5.3-8.6, 9.0.
There's a great site for the Performa at The 6400 Zone http://zone6400.com/
 Cheers, Tom

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Performa 6400/200

I have a Performa 6400/200 running Mac OS 9.1. I have installed two 64 MB 2k refresh rate RAM modules. The Mac now refuses to boot with them installed. I have already replaced the PRAM battery & pressed the CUDA reset button on the logic board. The Mac still refuses to boot. It only gets as far as the Happy Mac icon & then freezes. It didn't come with a network card either. Where can I get a Farallon 10/100 comm slot II ethernet card? I have already tried eBay with no luck in finding one too. Should I assume that the RAM is Fast Page Mode & thus incompatible with this Mac? I also have a spare logic board of the exact same model I can test with too to eliminate the possibility of a bad logic board. I have already tried zapping the PRAM too & it has no effect on the Mac. It still refuses to boot. What should my first troubleshooting step be?

The 6400s can use FPM or EDO memory, although the 6400/200 that shipped with a BTO Zip drive was supposed to support/take advantage of the faster timing of EDO memory. Although the motherboard is very similar to the 6400, the 6500 had some hardware improvements implemented, and should really use EDO memory, although FPM can be used in them.
As for the memory that you installed, are there 16 chips on each side of the DIMMs? A compatible 64 MB DRAM DIMM has a total of 32 chips on it. Fewer overall chips would indicate the use of higher density chips, which the 6400 can't support. Are you certain that you aren't using parity DRAM, used in PCs? Do you hear the sound of breaking glass at startup? If you have any other 5-volt, DRAM DIMMs (1K or 2K refresh) that you could try, you'd be able to determine if the startup problem is memory-related. The use of a DIMM with a 4K refresh rate causes the memory to be recognized at ½ of its specified density, but the computer should boot with it installed. Some time ago, I remember reading (in the Forums) that some 6400 users bought/installed a pair of 128 MB DIMMs with a 4K refresh rate, because they were less expensive than the 64 MB (2K) DIMMs. Since they were recognized as 64 MB DIMMs, the total installed memory was 128 MBs + the 8 MBs onboard.
Did you search the web (beyond eBay) for the Farallon (Proxim) 10/100 ethernet card?

AV Connections on Performa 6400/200

Hi,
I have a Performa 6400/200 running OS 8.6 with 256MB of memory.
The back of the computer has a set of RCA and S-Video connectors. Both input and output. The circuit board is identified as "Avid Technologies."
Does anyone have any information on what is required to use the AV hardware? Can I connect a VCR and copy video to the hard drive?
Thanks,
Sy Bensky

Your 6400 has the Apple Video System option installed, so if you do an advanced search of the Knowledge Base for it (select "Include content created prior to 1997"), you should be able to find some info about it. As I recall, it shipped with the Avid Cinema program, but the Apple Video Player program functions with it also. There was also an option for a TV tuner or FM tuner, allowing you to watch TV or listen to radio on your 6400. The Apple Video System was more of a high-tech toy at the time, but 10 years later - it's really low-tech. It was certainly never intended for high quality digitizing of analog video for full-screen display. The 603e/180 or 200 MHz processor and limited 1 MB of DRAM for onboard video support aren't capable of handling serious video work. For amusement purposes, you can connect a VCR and watch small-screen video and/or create and save small QuickTime video files.
Incidentally, the maximum supported RAM in a 6400 is 136 MBs - 8 MBs soldered to the motherboard and a pair of 64 MB DIMMs in each of the two RAM slots.

Restore Macintosh 6400-200

Hello all,
I have 2 Macintosh Performa 6400/200, 1 of them is working ok, the other one is showing a Floppy disk with a question mark this is the one I'm trying to fix and I need some help.
I google searched for solutions, found this site:
Check spec of 6400/200:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac/specs/powermac_6400_200.html
Boot Disk:
http://main.system7today.com/articles/tutorials/disktools.html
I have an external floppy drive, If I save Disk Tool 2 to the floppy disk, load it to MAC 6400/200 floppy drive and power on, will this help me going theough the Mac system, I need to know what is in that Mac computer before proceeding re-installation OS 7.5.3?
thanks,

Hello,
>does that mean the batteries are ok?
Try to use a multimeter. The real battery voltage should not be much lower than the nominal 4.5 V DC.
>I'm using windows for all internet conncetions, download, etc.., the Mac machines are not connected to internet.
No problem, providing that you keep any downloaded Mac application files unaltered MacBinary (.bin), BinHex (.hqx) or StuffIt (.sit). Do not try to decode or decompress the files on the Windows PC. Wait until on the Performa. Once on the 6400/200, use StuffIt Expander to decode/decompress the encoded/compressed files (drag the files onto the StuffIt Expander program icon). If you do not have an appropriate version of StuffIt Expander for Mac, you may want to try this:
With access to a Windows PC (capable of running a DOS program) with a floppy drive: Prepare an empty PC-formatted 1.44 MB HD diskette via FORMAT A: in DOS or the "full" formatting option under Windows. Download the MACDISK.EXE file from http://rrzs42.uni-regensburg.de/Macintosh/files/macftp.html . Run the MACDISK.EXE (DOS) program on the Windows PC. Follow the instructions on screen. The result will be an automatically Mac-formatted (sic!) floppy that can be used in a Macintosh computer. This floppy contains a StuffIt Expander installer.
>Probably need your guidance on where-about is the Disk Tools 6.3.3 located?
It was a typing error. Sorry! Should have been Disk Copy 6.3.3 (see the second direct link in my previous message).
>can I use a Floppy disk that was previously used on a windows PC?
For plain transfers of downloaded files from a Windows PC to a Performa 6400/200, you can use PC-formatted 1.44 MB diskettes. Just copy any files as they are to the diskette. The Mac should have a PC Exchange control panel (in the Control Panels folder inside the System Folder), which will allow the computer to see a PC disk (a PC floppy icon will appear on the Desktop).
If you later need Mac-formatted floppy disks, you can easily reformat PC diskettes on the 6400/200 (via Erase Disk under the Special menu).
>I have downloaded "Disk_Tools_PPC.img" into a floppy disk with an external floppy drive connected to this win7 PC, can I then use this floppy disk and load it in to Mac 6400 floppy drive?
It should have been Disk_Tools_PPC.img.bin from the beginning, but Windows may have truncated the name (that does not normally matter; the main thing is that you have not tried to alter the file). Once on the Mac, copy the file as it is to the hard disk. Then, drag the file onto the StuffIt Expander icon. When decoded, you could launch Disk Copy 6.3.3 and create a bootable floppy from the (.img) disk image file.
Jan

Performa 6400 & Mac IIcx

I have both a Performa 6400/200 and MacIntosh IIcx. Both I want to transfer the data from each to my G5.
The Performa has the following ports:
1. 25 pin scsi female connector.
2. 8 pin din female connector (printer icon)
3. 8 pin din female connector (modem icon)
4. 6 pin phone or ethernet jack (not sure which).
The Mac IIcx has the following ports:
1. 25 pin scsi female connector.
2. 8 pin din female connector (printer icon)
3. 8 pin din female connector (modem icon)
There is no modem in this IIcx.
Can data be transferred through the scsi cable with a scsi to usb adapter? I'm hoping I can just access the hard drive some how in each of these old units (not simultaneously) as if they were external HD that shows up on my G5 monitor.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Gene

Hi Gene,
Could you confirm that this cable would work for what I want to do?
That appears to be something that might work. However, the link to this product could possibly be even more interesting.
Also, can't I just leave the HD in the 6400 so I can use its power supply and unplug the IDE cable from the 6400 and plug in the IDE/usb adapter?
In principle, yes. Depending upon how the adapter is connected and powered, you may or may not encounter interference problems, though. It may be better remove the entire drive (or at least all cables connected to it) and use both the IDE interface and the power supply from the external device.
Then once I have it hooked up, I assume it will show up on my G5 as another drive, right?
Yes, that is the idea.
Also, I'm hoping I can do this without hooking up a monitor on the 6400 since the 6400 HD will be now acting as an external HD to the G5, right?
Yes.
With regards to the IIcx, can I not access it the same way using a scsi to usb adapter of some kind?
When the first iMac was introduced, there were USB-to-SCSI adapters. The question is whether these (if you can find one today) will work well at all (and with your G5). Someone else may be able to provide you with more information about this.
If this won't work and assuming I have to connect using an 8pin din cable between the 6400 and the IIcx in their respective printer ports, would I have to have monitors on both units so I can see the file sharing software work or could I operate the whole thing from the 6400?
You would, normally, need monitors on both units.
Is the file sharing software part of the mac operating system or is that something I would also have to install? Could you elaborate on how I would do this?
File sharing has been part of the Mac OS since System 7. It is not difficult. AppleTalk has to be on. Basically, you would enable file sharing on one of the computers. The other can then connect to the former computer (via the Chooser). The manuals and the built-in help system describe to do this.
Good luck! Do not hesitate to post again if there are additional questions.
Jan

Performa 6400 data, identity at risk?

I'm another one who's hung on to her Performa 6400/200 thinking I would use it for something, but now have to clear space. Those big original boxes sure eat up real estate!
I think there is stuff on the HD I want to clear off, possibly for personal security/identity/bank(?) reasons but the monitor battery is gone, so I can't start it up to see.
If I take the machine to a recycling depot, would there ever be any risk for the info on the HD to be used? Is that anything anyone would bother to do?
Suggestions appreciated!
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Boot from an OS 9 System/Install CD and run Apple System Profiler or Disk Utility (from the Utilities Folder at top-level on the CD).
You are looking for a drive that is not your CD or Zip drive (if you have one). It should be on the ATA Bus at address 0. If present, note carefully what error message you get with it. If absent, it is dead, and no risk to your privacy.
The following may be far more work than you care to tackle:
One last desperation move: on that model all the signals, even those going to the drives, go through the Big Connector at the back of the motherboard. The fingers are gold-plated to reduce corrosion, but sometimes corrosion builds up and causes problems. It can be cleaned a bit by removing and re-seating the motherboard.
Look at the backpanel where all the cables plug in. Disconnect all the cables. that plastic panel is just decorative, and snaps out with some latches along the edge. Underneath is a metal panel. It may have two or possibly three Phillips-head screws holding it in place. It also has a wire bail handle stowed under a tab in the sheet metal. Once the screws are removed, you will apply tremendous pressure on the wire handle to slide the motherboard straight out less than an inch. At that point it becomes free of the connector and will slide out the rest of the way easily.
You can remove it if you like, or just re-insert it and try to see if your hard drive appears. The wiping action of removing and re-inserting cleans the contacts somewhat, and sometimes that is all that is needed.

Memory for a Performa 6400

I have an iMac DV 400Mhz "Slot-loading" computer that on apple's specs page says the max ram is 512mb, but in fact you can go as high as 1gb with two 512 sticks. This is due to the fact that apple doesn't update the specs page very often for older systems. This got me thinking, on the specs page it says my 6400 will max out at 136mb (128Mb stick w/ 8Mb on board)
Does anyone know that this is incorrect? Can I put a 256Mb stick in it and have 264Mb.
...just a thought.
Thanks,
Matt

My son has a Performa 6400/200 that I recently did some upgrades on, one of which was memory. The 6400 uses the same 5v 168 pin DIMM's as most other PCI PowerMacs prior to the G3's, such as the 9500/9600 or 8500/8600, ect. The problem is that other Macs that use the 5v 168 pin DIMM's can utilize up to 128MB modules, while the 6400 can not. Its memory controller is limited to seeing a max of 64MB's per stick. So while a 128MB stick will physically fit, the controller will only see 64MB's of it. On a side note, you may also use either FPM or EDO memory in the 6400, even though Apple spec's say it is EDO memory only.
Ken

Connect MacBook to Performa 6400

I want to connect my Performa 6400 to my MacBook. Both have Ethernet. What's the proper technique?

7.5.3 and later File Sharing
Any Mac running 7.5.3 or later can share the files of any Mac running OS 9 or later using built-in File Sharing using IP. What is not supported beyond 10.3 is File Sharing via AppleTalk. In addition, Sharing initiated from your 10.4 or later Mac to a Mac before OS 9 is not supported directly. So you will have to make the connection from the Older Mac end. Alternatively, you could install "Shareway IP" (a low-cost utility) on the older Mac and connect from the newer Mac.
The 6400 sometimes has trouble when connected to another computer directly, rather than through a Router, Switch, or Hub. The 6400 often has to be connected to an Active Ethernet port AT 6400 STARTUP, or its Ethernet port cannot be selected in the TCP/IP Control panel.
A good general description of this sort of connection process appears in this illustrated article:
Car1son's OS 9 to OS X 10.3 File Sharing Setup
Several links near the top of the page point back at Apple KnowledgeBase articles for network setup, etc.
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Performa 6400/180 been hacked

Hi,
Long story short, my performa has been hacked, and I can't do much now. Floppy disk: When inserted, it asks to initialize, then after done, it says " Cannot initialize, Disk is defective!"
It will read cdroms fine, but I don't know if I can use a 7.5 iso to boot from, or if it will let me boot from floppy at startup.
I was thinking of putting a whole new hard drive in, and trying to boot off floppy/cd, but having a hard time finding a 7.5 iso, and don't know what to do.
Thanks,
Abdul.
PowerPC Performa 6400 Mac OS 8.6 or Earlier spare pc hdd, old mac keyboard+mouse,

>"my performa has been hacked"That is unlikely, but I would be willing to believe it is not working well. Have you run Disk First Aid? What version of Mac OS is it running now?
>"Floppy disk: When inserted, it asks to initialize, then after done, it says " Cannot initialize, Disk is defective!"That is normal behavior for a drive that is very dusty, or has dirty heads.
There is also a known problem with more advanced Mac OS and certain models of floppy drives. A different floppy drive is sometimes needed to use Mac OS 9. This article has details:
http://www.zone6400.com/OS9.html#OS9_floppyissue
>"It will read cdroms fine, but I don't know if I can use a 7.5 iso"You need either a System/Install CD for exactly your Mac, or a "Full Retail" CD (for any Mac). Mac System CDs were never issued in ISO format, always in Mac format.
Your Mac was released with 7.5.3 and an enabler, so it can theoretically boot from any diskettes or "Full Retail" CDs after that.
>"I was thinking of putting a whole new hard drive in, and trying to boot off floppy/cd, but having a hard time finding a 7.5 iso, and don't know what to do."
You need to work on one problem at a time. Making multiple changes at once will guarantee that your Mac will never work again.
A known problem with these older Macs is the PRAM battery wearing out. If you have not changed it in the last few years, you should consider doing that first. These use a 4.5 Volt sealed Alkaline Ray-O-Vac 840, 841, 0r 842 or equivalent. It is a black cube shape about 1 inch (25 mm) on a side.

Performa 6400/180 not booting up

Performa 6400/180 not booting
Posted: Jan 26, 2006 12:12 PM Reply Email
I have a Performa 6400/180 that I am trying to refurbish as a starter computer for my grandson.
1) When pressing the start button, I receive the start up chime but the system does not boot up
Troubleshooting steps
1) Have inserted OS 9 and attempted to boot from disk
2) Inserted Disk Warrior 3.02 and attempted to boot from disk
3) replaced Hard Drive and repeated above steps
4) Replaced CD-ROM player and repeated above steps
Any suggestions?

Darrell,
We still do not have a clear description of the symptoms. You say the screen is black with a CD in the drive. Is it black with no CD in the drive? Sceen lighting up or not is the critical question. The hard drive has no effect on the screen lighting up or not.
If you have a black screen when there is no CD in the drive, replace the battery. If you have a raster (a grey screen) when there is no CD in, maybe the battery is usuable but replace it anyway if it is more than two years old or if the store sold you an old battery.
If there is a click from the hard drive, that can mean either the drive is OK but is not mounting or the drive has some physical problem. We should always assume the drive can be fixed until we have exausted the possibility. Incidentally, 6400 and other early PowerMacs with IDE hard drive were unreliable at mounting the hard drive when OS 8.0 hard disk driver was copied to the drive. Even a replacement drive may not be formatted for Macintosh and/or using a reliable driver so let's guess this is the most likely culprit for the clicking sound.
Disconnect evrything from the 6400 except the monitor, Apple ADB keyboard and mouse. Be especially carefull to disconnect external speakers and any SCSI cable (a fat cable with a huge connector). This strip down routine is very critical. Don't think I haven't been in your position 50 times.
If the original CD for the 6400 can be found (read the label carefully for the "6400" designation), boot from it by inserting it, restart and hold the "C" key on an Apple ADB type keyboard (third party brands of keyboards may not boot the CD). If the CD will not boot after one minute, restart and press and hold hold these four keys within two seconds: command (also has the Apple outline logo on it) + option + shift + delete. Hold for at least one minute. Is there any light to the screen? If it is black, and the battery is new, restart holding these four keys: command + option + P + R. Hold the keys while you listen for a repeat of the startup music chime. If you hear no chime, watch for a blink of the screen raster light. Don't hold for more than four repeats. Then release all four keys and hold the "C" key to boot from the CD. If you successfully got the repeats but it still does not boot from the CD, restart holding the command + option + shift + delete keys again.
If you don't have the original 6400 CD, you can try to boot from a retail (has a huge orange "9" on the white label) OS 9 CD. If you have an OS 9 CD that came with a new computer, it will not have the orange 9. Get a retail CD.

Performa 6400 fails to show video

Hi there,
I have a performa 6400 that is upgraded with a G3 sonnet card. It was working really well for such an old machine until I moved it to a new office. Now when I start up the machine, the monitor light turns 'green' for a second, indicating it is connected but then quickly turns off as if a signal is not getting through, although the machine sounds like it's starting up normally.
It does have a PCI rage pro ATI card in one of the slots which has always worked perfectly, but after this I disconnected it, removed it and used the built in video but the effect is the same. Any suggestions, recommendations?
Thanks
Kevin

You may look at:
http://www.whoopis.com/computer_repair/
for
PerformaPM_64006500.pdf
for troubleshooting.
You may also look at:
http://www.zone6400.com/

File sharing with Leopard through dial up modem on Performa 6400

There are some really important files that i need to get off my Macintosh Performa 6400 (running 8.6) but the only connection that my iMac G5 (running 10.5.4) and the performa share is the dial up modem. I can't get an internet connection on the performa since we have broadband and it does not have an ethernet port, so that's out of the question. Some of the files are too big to fit on a floppy and my iMac doesn't have a floppy drive anyways.
I turned on file sharing on both computers, but they don't see each other being as they're connected through the dial up modems. After having searched up and down Google with no answer, my question is: is there anyway i can file share through the dial up modem using the aforementioned configuration?
Since I'll only need to do this once, I don't want to have go out and buy something in order to get this to work.
Thank you for any and all help you guys may provide.

I realise that you didn't, originally, intend to spend anything but, if you have a spare PCI slot left in your 6400. I wonder if maybe installing a Keyspan USB PCI card would help. That way the 6400 could communicate direct with the G5 and save the hassle of removing its HD.
http://www.allmacshop.co.uk/proddetail/19184/KeyspanUSB_PCI_Card_2-Port_Mac_Win__UPCI-2/
The manufacturer's part number is UPCI-2.
I installed one of these in my PowerMac 6500/300. Turned to be one of my better decisions as I was then able then to import photos direct from my digital camera and all sorts.
Or there's this which is better still-
http://www.macheaven.co.uk/?page=proddetail&prod=1343
Check compatibility with your 6400 though as I don't have one of these so I don't know if it works or not. Don't see why it shouldn't though.

Connecting my Powerbook with my old Performa 6400...

I want to retrieve some files on my old Performa 6400 and copy them to my Powerbook running Mac OS X 10.4.8. The old Mac is running system Mac OS 8.
I have tried via ethernet but neither Mac seems to be able to see each other.
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Do you find that connecting to a Bluetooth keyboard creates issues w/ the new iPad's performance?

Do you find connecting to a Bluetooth keyboard creates issues w/ the new iPad's performance?

I have an Adesso case with bluetooth keyboard for my iPad 2. No affect on performance. Keybord easier to use compared to on-screen keyboard. Plus it has more keys compared to on-screen keyboard.
 Cheers, Tom

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regards saurabh.

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