New Pantone color swatches

Is there a location to download the latest Pantone color swatches? We are currently running Illy CS 5.0.

Hi
Here´s the link: http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721&ca=1
Gustavo.

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Illustrator CS4, new Pantone color books, color channel issue

Since I installed the new Pantone color books, I've been running in a major issue which will affect our whole production line.
If an Illustrator CS4 file contains a Photoshop CS4 image which is using an "old" Pantone color in a color channel, it cannot be opened and I get an error message "File is unreadable". If I replace the "old" Pantone colour with its new equivalent in the color channel in Photoshop, the file can be opened normally.
In our work environment, this means going through all our images to check which one is using a color channel. A painful and time wasting procedure. Furthermore, if one of our suppliers doesn't have the new color books, they won't be able to open any of the files, both Photoshop and Illustrator, so they have no way to revert back to the old Pantone.
Is there another way to fix this?
Thank you

More on the Pantone PLUS saga, hoping to get some input from the users of this forum. I find their silence deafening, to say the least. This is a serious issue, that will cost our agency hours and hours of work if it isn't addressed. And we've already wasted hours of troubleshooting and discussions on how we could resolve it.
We're actually testing a workaround: using both the old and the new libraries in Illustrator. After consulting our suppliers, we've learned that this is what they also do. For them, it's a one shot to get the file to print. For us, it means cheating with files that will get edited again in the future. And the Pantone installer removes the old Pantone books from the Adobe folders for a reason which is mentioned on the download page:
The reason that the PANTONE Color Libraries that had been built into Illustrator need to be removed and replaced with the PANTONE PLUS Color Libraries is that, in Illustrator, a PANTONE Color can only have one data point with which it is associated. In the short term, in order to benefit from the new colors and data associated in PLUS, the PANTONE Libraries that are installed with Adobe Illustrator are removed and replaced with the new PLUS Libraries.
http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721&ca=1
I worry this may lead to another bunch of issue, knowing how easily AI files get corrupted. What I need to know is:
What is the exact meaning of the Pantone warning about the "one data point per color?
What are the long term implications of using both Pantone libraries in an Adobe file? Or in the Adobe app?

New Pantone colors not showing up in the Pantone swatches palette!

There are new colors in the most recent Pantone books that we are not seeing in the available color swatches within Illustrator CS4.
Is this because the new swatches are only included in the newest version of Illustrator (CS5)?
Can we get an update so the new PMS colors are available in the Illustrator color palette within CS4?

I'm not sure about the timing of CS5 and Pantone's latest color release. Try pantone.com and look for "software" or "downloads". I believe the latest release is available for a price, depending on what you are looking for.

336 new pantone colors

Hi !
I have a problem: the recently released 336 pantone colors are not included in the latest CS6 InDesign pantone color libraries.
Does anybody know how to get thes new colors integrated in InDesign?
kindly, Jes

To all:
I have read with interest the 'thread' here concerning the 336 newest PANTONE colors, and thought I would take the opportunity to set the record straight.
The 336 newest PANTONE colors were introduced in April 2012, subsequent to launch of the PANTONE PLUS SERIES products in May 2010.
While Adobe CS6 is the first version of the Adobe suite to provide native support for the PANTONE PLUS SERIES libraries, this does not include the 336 newest PANTONE colors from April 2012. These colors are supported within PANTONE Color Manager software.
PANTONE Color Manager was conceived in 2010 as a vehicle through which customers of Pantone could keep their digital PANTONE libraries fully up-to-date. The software is distributed free of charge with purchase and registration of updated PANTONE color guides and books. Each PANTONE publication has a unique serial number which when registered, becomes the activation key for a single-use activation of PANTONE Color Manager. Thus, Pantone does not charge any additional cost to a customer for the libraries, over and above the cost of the PANTONE publications themselves. Customers who choose not to purchase updated books, or who may need additional licenses over and above the quantity of books that they own, can purchase PANTONE Color Manager for $49.00 per additional user license
The current release of PANTONE Color Manager, version 2.1, contains support for the 336 newest PANTONE colors in separate libraries, and allows users to export these for Adobe CS6 and earlier versions. Customers who have PANTONE Color Manager installed but are missing the 336 newest colors, can either auto-update the software, or log into their myPANTONE account and download the latest installer free of charge. Running the latest installer over the current installation will update the software to the latest release.
For detailed information pertaining to your personal situation, you may contact Pantone directly via e-mail to [email protected].
I hope that the community at large will find this information helpful.
Best regards,
John Stanzione
Manager - Technical Support
Pantone, LLC

When will Adobe load the new Pantone colors into the Suite?

Pantone added hundreds of fabulous colors last year and these are not available to specify in any of the Adobe Suite programs!

You can get them from Pantone although they don't make it easy. Checkout this thread starting at #9
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5879842#5879842
With the free trial version of Pantone Manager you can install the new 336 colors and Goe.

My Pantone Color Swatch Library is Missing from Illustrator

I've searched the computer for this PMS color swatch library... can't find it. How do I get it back? I NEED IT asap! Ahhh! Please help?

This isn't really about color management. To reach the largest group
of people who might be able to help, try the Illustrator forum
(Windows or Mac). Be sure to say what version, and if you can remember
what changed between this last working and now that might help too.
Aandi Inston

How do I replace 2 pantone colors with 2 new pantone colors globally? I have a 2 PMS logo with many tint variations in it . When I replace PMS in Swatches pallette. The logo does not globally replace the selected color. es

I have a 2-PMS color logo with many tints in it of the 2 colors. When I replace the swatches in the logo to new colors, they convert from Book Color to CMYK. Can the printer work with that? How can I kee it a 2-color separation?
MaryFl

This is what I understand. You have a logo in a document that uses PMS 'A' and PMS 'B' colors and you want to change to colors PMS 'C' and PMS 'D'. If this is correct there are different ways to do this, but here is a traditional way:
Make sure Select Same Tint is turned OFF in the Preferences. And all objects are unlocked in the document.
Get the two PMS (C and D) in the document's Swatches Panel.
Select PMS 'A' and bring the 'Fill' box in focus.
From the Select menu choose Same > Fill Color.
Click on PMS 'C' in Swatches panel to replace all PMS 'A' fills with PMS 'C'.
Deselect all.
Again select PMS 'A' and this time bring 'Stroke' box in focus.
From the Select menu choose Same > Stroke Color.
Click on PMS 'C' in Swatches panel to replace all PMS 'A' strokes with PMS 'C'.
Deselect all.
Similarly using the same approach replace PMS 'B' wit PMS 'D'.
If you have CS3 / CS4 and the PMS colors in the logo are easily identifiable, you can use Live Color to change the colors pretty easily.
Hope this helps!
- Neeraj
New Note: If there are gradients / blends that use these PMS colors the above approach would not work, but Live Color can.

New Pantone Color Calibrator posted

New version 1.1 posted for W520.
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W520, i7-2760QM, BIOS 1.42 1920x1080 FHD, 32 GB RAM, 1000M NVIDIA GPU, Crucial M500 480GB mSata SSD, Hitachi 500GB HDD, WD 2TB USB 3.0
Solved!
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I agree that using the native white point of the display with the built-in color sensor and Pantone software is a lot closer to correct than using 6500K, but then you don't even know what white point it's actually calibrated to. This matters quite a bit if you're doing color-critical graphics/photography work.
The most obvious difference of the profile I posted is a lessening of the blue channel, but the entire display gamut has been corrected for color accuracy, gamma, and luminance. You need to be working in a color-managed application to really get the full benefit of this though (eg Photoshop or Lightroom).

Pantone Color book (new colours) plugin into my Illustrator CS6 software.

I need to install the Pantone Colour Book plugin which has the new Pantone Color Bridge Colours. Where do I get it from, and how do I install it?

stelmo,
Maybe it is worth having a look at this recent thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1263538?tstart=0

Illustrator CS6 / CC and previous Pantone color books

Hi all, I've understood that Illustrator CS6 / CC has the new Pantone+ color books, those color books doesn't have CMYK values so the default of rIllustrator CS6 / CC is to use the Lab values when I add a Pantone swatches to my document. One of my customers, that is a print industry, need to have the old Pantone with CMYK values to maintain the same color rendition on old and continuative jobs. Adobe says that I can load the old Pantone color books from CS5 and change the swatches option so that Illustrator use the CMYK values: http://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.html The problem is that this doesn't work for me and for my customer, even if I change the swatches option Illustrator continue to load only the Lab values from the older CS5 Pantone color books... anyone of you has a solution?

I am running into the same issue. Both links suggested did not work for me. In a document I created in CS4 (the old document) and opened in CC there is a square with the color Pantone 519U in which it converts to C:67% M:100% Y:30% K:10%. These are the numbers to be expected. If I copy the square that is 519U in the old document and paste it in the same old document the color remains the same.
I create a new document in CC (the new document). From the old document I copy the Pantone 519U square and paste it in the new document. The resulting square in the new document is a washed out purple. The new document square converts to C:57.27% M:68.83% Y:35.06% K:13.06%.
Again I followed Workaround 1 in the link. I obtained the old Pantone Libraries from my CS4 machine so it is not a library issue. I have also created a new Document Profile where I set the Spot Color to be "Use CMYK values from the manufacturer's process books". I am seeing the same problem before and after the workaround.

Can I have "All spots to process" checked at all times, even for new spot colors?

When I check “All spots to process” in the pdf export settings and save my settings the settings remember that I've checked this option. But, if new spot color objects using new spot color swatches are added to the document (or another document) and I go into the pdf export settings the check mark has been changed into a dash (with the actual checkbox highlighted) – signifying that only some of of the spot colors will be changed to process colors during export. I absolutely fail to see how this could possibly be seen as a feature and not a bug … if the user has checked “ALL spots to process” wouldn't the user expect ALL spots to be converted to process colors, rather than just any spot colors that happened to be in the document that happened to be open when the user first checked that checkbox and saved that setting?
Am I missing something here? What's the point of even having that checkbox as part of your saved export settings if it doesn't include any other spot colors than those used when saving the settings?
What's the point of having settings if you can't trust them, and still need to manually "override" them every time?
I see that some users have taken to writing scripts that instead turn all spot colors in the swatch panel to process colors, and while I commend them for creating that workaround, I'm still pissed at Adobe for not getting the function right.
If this is a feature, who is it for? People who want to add just certain spot colors and turn those into process colors rather than turning all spot colors into process colors are surely better off doing that in the swatches panel, where they're in total control of what's what. And if they don't want to "permanently" change their spot colors to process colors, and prefer to (temporarily) convert them during exporting/printing only, they can do that in the ink manager. But when someone checks convert "All spots to process" couldn't we safely assume they really want ALL spot colors to be converted and not just some of them? I mean, the way that checkbox behaves now, it's like it's a button and not a checkbox. As in: hit the button "All spots to process" to switch all currently viewed spot colors to process colors in the ink manager, OR check the "All spots to process" checkbox to always convert ALL spot colors to process colors during exporting/printing.
Anyone got any light to shed on this?
And is there a way to actually get the advertised behavior, because if you have to run a script every time you export/print you might as well just manually select the checkbox every time instead, but either way it's just really unnecessary as far as I'm concerned … Adobe should get the feature right instead.
If you save a setting and recall it, it shouldn't be possible for that setting to change into something else (in this case changing a checkmark to a dash).
Clearly CMYK printing is the norm, so for most users it would make a lot of sense to have the "All spots to process" checked most of the time, and then you just go into the swatches panel or the ink manager and set things correctly for those print jobs that really do need spot colors.
I myself am not one of those who add spot colors to my swatches unless I'm really using them as spot colors, but I often work with magazines and folders featuring adverts made by whoever, and typically there's always at least one advert that features spot colors, and therefore it would be very nice if the "All spots to process" feature actually worked as advertised without any required actions from me.
We stopped sending ads back to the advertisers for adjustments a long time ago, unless we absolutely had to, because there were so many things wrong with so many ads that it was simply too much work to write back and explain everything to people who most of the time didn't even understand what we were talking about. We found that it was usually a LOT faster and easier to just adapt the ads ourselves, as long as it was something that could be worked out really quickly from within InDesign itself, which pretty much included most typical errors.
But with this feature I find Adobe is trying to make my job harder rather than easier, and it's pissing me off. Arrrghh… ;-)

But It's not a preference it's a shortcut
It's a bad joke, is what it is. ;-)
So, why in your opinion should it be presented the way it is? I keep saying in it's current functionality it shouldn't be presented the way it is (and that: if it is, it shouldn't work the way it does). If it's not a preference or even a proper checkbox, why present it that way?
If you put it right next to the table at the top of the window (so that it's directly associated with that information, rather than information right above it) and just called the checkbox “Spot(s) to process” and had it only visually reflect the content of the sleected spot colors in the table, then I'd see your point with likening it to the “Hyphenate” checkbox.
If a story has two selected paragraphs that uses two different hyphenation settings then the checkbox should present the way it does now, but if you hit the checkbox so that both paragraphs now use hyphenation and create a third paragraph inbetween the two previous ones it better inherit that setting and not turn off hyphenation for the new paragraph (unless of course there's a defined next paragraph style that switches to a style with hyphenation turned off). And if that checkbox said “Hyphenate all paragraphs” instead, then I would expect it to do just that, and not just the selected ones, and not just the current paragraphs but quite literally all paragraphs even newly created ones – otherwise it doesn't do what it says it does, and simply shouldn't be labeled that way.
And seriously bad interface design aside, you'd have to rename “All spots to process” to “Switch all currently displayed spot swatches listed in the table above to process” to actually describe what that checkbox does. So even if you're a fan of the current functionality, as opposed to one that actually lets the user set and forget a setting like that, and think it's better that users manually check it repeatedly (which I'm not saying that you are, but you're not giving me any feedback suggesting you even see my point of view with any of this, so what do I know?), then why wouldn't you still support an interface that visually matches/signals that functionality better? If it's a “Select all” checkbox supplementing a table containing a column of checkboxes, then present it that way. Don't put it at the bottom of the window next to another checkbox that works just like a regular checkbox and label it “All spots to process” – because that way you are signalling a different behavior.
Seriously, if I was to do design using the same mentality that Adobe uses when designing their user interfaces it wouldn't be long before I lost all clients. There's a lot to be said for de facto monopolies, I suppose. Oh no, there's nothing wrong with the design, just as long as you accept it on it's own terms and don't compare it to anything relevant, and just as long as you give people enough time to understand and accept it … and surrender to it.
For real … I wouldn't win one single pitch that way.
Today's threads have in many ways been a thorough reminder of the following quote from the second link I provided:
Is there an Internet rule yet stating that even the most obviously indefensible mistake will eventually be defended by someone somewhere? Awful marketing efforts get explained as genius viral campaigns, broken features become solutions.
And whether or not you're able to see my point of view or not is really besides the point too.
The real point was, and remains to be:
That for those who receive lots of ads or other external files that may or may not contain spot colors it would be far more useful to be able to set a checkbox to always convert all spots to process when exporting, than the current functionality is (and I'm not suggesting eliminating the current functionality, just change so it's presented like what it really is, and then just let that separate checkbox do what it says) … causing unnecessary manual action on the user's behalf shouldn't be the business of Adobe – preventing it should.
And here's further reading on the subject of bad Adobe interface design for those who might feel so inclined. ;-)
Cheers!

Color swatch vs. pattern swatch

Whenever I try to create a new CMYK color swatch it automatically opens pattern swatch name panel. Why won't it let me create a color swatch?
WZ

Hi Larry,
Thanks for responding. I just started using Illustrator CC and I couldn't make a new swatch. When I dragged color blocks from the paste board to the color panel it would show up in the patterned swatches. I was trying to update some old files so instead I just opened new files and started over. It's working now but it would be easier to use the already formatted CS6 files. Hmmmmm
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CS5 changing pantone color at once

Hello to all,
I'll try to explain as best I can.
I created a logo in Illustrator CS5 made of several overlapping parts, all parts have the same Pantone color, but with different intensity (I'm not sure it's called intensity, is the bar, inside the Color Palette by which you can adjust the color from white to 100% of the Pantone color of your choice). What I'm looking for is a way to change the color of all the parts at once with another Pantone with a simple click, without having to manually adjust all the intensity of every single parts again. Now, when I try, all parts changes in the new Pantone color but all are at 100%. If i change only one part at a time the percentage of intensity is observed. I know that i can do it manualy, changing every single part, but i wonder if there is a faster way that i don't know.
I hope I was able to explain clearly
Thanks in advance for your help
Andrea

Thanks Larry!! You just saved my time
have a great day!

W701 with Pantone Color Calibrator Program

Hi all,
I read, that for the ThinkPad W520, W530, W540 is a newer color-calibration-program "Pantone Color Calibrator".
The W701 isn't remarked as a compatible system, which I find a little bit strange.
At the official driver-download of the W701 isn't any color-caliobration program.
I has an old version of Huey-Pro, which is a very old version only for WIndows 7, but also runs under Windows 8.1 - sometimes with some problems.
Therefore my question:
Does anybody know, if the newer Pantone Color Calibrator also runs with the W701?
Thanks a lot,
Klaus Zaeper
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I tested it now:
The Pantone Color Calibrator program doesn't work with the Lenovo W701 Color-Sensor.
So you've to use the Huey Pro-Program (marked as compatibel on WIndows 7, but is also working under WIndows 8.1), downloadable from the official Lenovo-driver-site.

I am missing colors in my Adobe Pantone Plus Library that are in my physical Pantone Plus Swatch Book.

I have the most recent Illustrator downloaded and the Pantone Plus Library however I cannot find some Pantone numbers that are in my physical Pantone Plus book. One specifically is PMS Blue 2384.
What do I do?

Thanks but that is not the problem. I figured it out. You have to download Pantone Color Manager Software and use the serial number from your registered Pantone Plus book to register the software. Once you do that then you can download the extra 360 colors and then export them to the Adobe programs...
Pain in the *** but it's the only way to get the extra colors in the Pantone plus book to your adobe Pantone Plus Library.The new Library is called Pantone+ V2.
Thank you for the response though!
-Ant
From: Jacob Bugge <[email protected]>
To: Anthony R <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 2:34 AM
Subject: I am missing colors in my Adobe Pantone Plus Library that are in my physical Pantone Plus Swatch Book.
I am missing colors in my Adobe Pantone Plus Library that are in my physical Pantone Plus Swatch Book.
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