New replacement (black) BT Vision box

New black vision box arrived today, installed, but trouble. Most channels are not available and others have distorted sound and picture. ITV1 is OK cannot get BB1 and many others. The Vision box is connected direct to the TV, no other device inbetween. Switched off scanned again. Same result. BT India say I have a signal problem which is not their problem. I had no such problem with the silver box. BT India say I cannot reuse it as it has been deactivated. I am sorry I laid eyes on the black box which I did not want anyway. Any advice please?
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Does the menu run along top or left hand side.
If left you are on the new OS and will not be able to check signal strength, sadly.
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New Look Black BT Vision Box - Failure to record a...

I had my original Silver BT Vision box replaced due to catastrophic failure. I was given the new black BT Vision box as a replacement. Not only does it fail to record programmes as outlined in the posting by StuartH, but it has a habit of re-booting itself.
When setting up recordings on my original box; of there was a recording conflict, I was able to immediatly resolve the problems by being able to see immediatly which programmes I could choose to record. This is not the case with the new box. When trying to set up recordings for the following week on the new box and a conflict occurs where there are more than two programmes selected I get a red banner across the bottom of the screen telling me that "you can only record two programmes at the same time (VRC001)", without being able to easily find out via the box search system which programmes are in conflict.
I cannot find any reference to this error code anywhere or fault message anywhere on the internet.
Has anyone else had this problem?

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Lost HD & Sport channels on black BT Vision box

Hi, I was advised to do a factory re-set on my black BT Vision box because it was performing so poorly but since doing so I can no longer get my HD or sport channels (BT Sport 1 & 2, Sky Sports 1,2 & 5) back.
Prior to doing the reset I only had the HD & sport channels as I had such a poor aerial in the roof. Doing the factory re-set meant I had to have a functioning aerial to re-scan for all the channels so I fixed the aerial & whilst it means I can now get all the freeview channels I can't now get any of the HD or sport channels back that I pay for!
BT initially thought it was an issue at the exhange but having gone through several re-sets, re-scans, re-registers & re-boots they've finally agreed to get an engineer out.
In another two weeks time!
Anyone got any suggestions as to what might be causing this & therefore how I might be able to fix without waiting for the engineer visit?
thanks

Either the entitlements are missing or you are on the wrong version of the software. This can sometimes happen initially after a reset.
What does it say for Help & Settings > Settings > System Information > BT TV Release ?
If it ends in C (such as 8.7.1C) then you are on the version for using a viewing card.
If it ends in E (such as 8.7.1E) then you are on the version for multicast channels over broadband which is what you need.
If on the C version then try the following.
Help & Settings > Settings > System Information > Reset Registration
Help & Settings > Settings > System Information > Check for Upgrade
In my experience that usually encourages it to download and install the correct E version again.

New Black BT Vision box - what is missing, a discu...

Maybe it's just me but here is a list of things which are currently missing or wrong with the new BT Vision box (black edition with new interface and OS). Thought it might be useful to keep a list of these going which people can add to.
would also appreciate it if anyone can help with any of these issues in case i've missed something
Red button doesn't work - believe this is 'coming soon'. you can still access the channels by going to 301 or 302
Teletext doesn't work - the button pops up a message saying it's not available, coming soon?
There is no way to set recordings to over run? - this used to be very handy on old box, particularly with live shows. is this being brought back?
No signal strength tester - you used to be able to check digital signal reception strength and quality from the settings menu, not any more
Pressing 'play' when viewing a recording doesn't flash up the progress bar - any other good way to do this, used to be handy. Fix: pressing "select" does the trick
no HD Freeview - the box isn't capable, wondering whether they might upgrade us to YouView later on for this?
No options to set resolution - used to be able to define 720p or 1080i for instance, not any more
Sky Sports small white box - a small logo in the bottom right area, not sure what this is or why it's now there?
Subtitles on iPlayer missing
Some reported picture quality issues - both on SCART and HDMI
On the plus side:
Bigger capacity on the hard disc
Faster inteface and movement between sections
Nice new design and sharp interface resolution
Channel logos / graphics now in the information bar menu
When in the TV Guide there's still a small box showing you what you are watching on the current channel
Music playlist
Bookmarks
Reinstatement of the 30s jump and better fast-forward / rewind (30s jump doesn't work on Sky Sports)
Ability to jump to specific point in recordings (you need to start it first, then stop and go back into it to have option)
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Icon to show which recordings have been watched
HD iPlayer
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Ability to resume a programme on iPlayer
Ability to resume on demand
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'Play all' feature for On Demand series
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Up grade software on black bt vision box and new b...

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Silver/Black BT vision box

We've had our silver vision box for over 2 years now. I was just wondering, what's the difference? I noticed the buttons of the box infront is different to the black one though the remote is still the same just in different colour (I think). Difference with the performance? Quality?
Thanks!

MickyG wrote:
As mentioned on two other threads this morning already.....I had an engineer visit this morning. You'll be pleased to know that this is the last time I'll mention it.
Anyway....I said to him that it will be good when BT finally get the HD Freeview box released.
And he said.....that the old silver box couldn't get HD but, come April, when our transmitter goes digital then I will be able to get HD Freeview on my new black box. Ok, so this goes against my understanding from other threads. But he is an engineer, and he did come in a BT van. So I kind of would expect him to know.....
Please don't shoot the messenger though. I'm only repeating what he said.......
Was that a BT Telecoms engineer or a BT Vision engineer.
If the hardware decoder & firmware is not present in the Black box then it cannot decode HD Freeview.
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Signal strength finder via black bt vision box

I have recently changed from sky (could be a big mistake) and have had constant troubles ever since.
The latest is I am getting pixelation on all tv channels.
Looking at the online "help" I have checked the aerial connections (all good), Aerial (brand new £50) and pointed in the correct direction. The next item was to use the handy signal strength checker as per BT's instructions.
However these do not appear to match what appears on screen.
You can check your Freeview signal using your Vision+ box, but please be aware that checking your signal will interrupt any recordings that are in progress. You only need to check the signal of one channel in a multiplex to know what signal you'll be getting for the whole multiplex.
How to check your signal:
Press the BT Vision button on your remote control.
DID THIS
Scroll across to Settings.
SCROLL ACROSS GOES TO TV SO I SCROLLED DOWN.
NO "SETTINGS" PAGE SO WENT TO "HELP & SETTINGS"
Select TV Settings.
DID THIS
Select the DTT Signal Strength page.
NO "DTT SIGNAL STRENGTH" PAGE THE ONLY OPTIONS ARE 1/sCAN FOR CHANNELS, 2/ CHANNEL MANAGEMENT, 3/ TV SHAPE.
The minimum signal strength and quality you need for a good picture is:
Signal Strength - 55%
Signal Quality -70%
Am I going mad ?
Can anyone help please?
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There is good news and bad news. The good news is that you are not going mad. The bad news is that you have a new version of the software which unfortunately doesn't include a signal strength tool.
Does your TV have a Freeview tuner? If so, try using signal strength on that.
Your signal could be too weak or too strong. If it's too weak you may be able to use a booster. If it's too strong you can use an attenuator.

Black BT Vision+ box keeps rebooting.

Our box keeps switching itself off, then going through the start up procedure 3 or 4 times a night for quite a while now. This makes watching anything impossible and very frustrating. We had the update on 09 Sep but it is still rebooting! I have contacted BT re this and waiting for a reply. Has anyone else had this problem?

Sorry to hear about your problem.
Please go to Help & Settings, Settings, TV Settings and select Scan for Channels. This should take 3 or 4 minutes. It won't affect any existing or future recordings but will stop any recordings currently in progress, so make sure nothing is being recorded or about to be recorded.
This may resolve your reboot problem as it causes various internal databases to be rebuilt. Please let us know if it helps.
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Can I get a new Black BT Vision box?

I have noticed of late my silver box is being very tempremental with recordings not working correctly, I have been with BT for 2 years and have just signed up to another year in Feb. Is it possible I can get one / order one for free?

You should have negotiated it as part of your contract renewal.
If you're having problems speak with the helpdesk. If they think it needs replaced you might get lucky and get a black one, although they could replace like for like.
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New black Vision+ box upgrade. Is it a con ?

I am a BT option3 customer and have been for some time. I currently pay £5.49 for my BT vision service.
I enquired to find out why I would be expected to pay £199 in order to get the new box. New customers to BT dont have to pay this.
I was told in the reply that the two boxes have exactly the same functions ! If I wanted a new one I could simply take out a new 12 month contract !
The new contract are a minimum of £7.99 per month for three months before increasing to £14.99 per month.
I have no interest whatsoever in any of the so called vision packs as I have more than an enough to watch already.
This increase represents 100% jus for a different colour box ! BT seem intent on conning us or ripping us off !
Has anyone else triedto replace their old vision box with the new one? I have tried phoning BT but just got send round in circles va several different Indian call cetres, none of whom could answer my query !

It's absolutely not a con because it isn't an upgrade. It's just cosmetically different and slightly more efficient on power consumption. Apart from that no difference so not an upgrade therefore if you really really want one you'll have to pay for it.
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New standard Bt vision box v Youview box

I am bit confused, I know BT vision is about to start giving Humax Youview box to it subscribers I thought this was to replace the old silver BT vision Boxs howevervier I notice that bt has already started supplying new ( black) BT vision box's. Are the youview box replacing the these black standard BT visions box or are both types still likely to be supplied. If the later what do you get on the black standard Bt vision that you can not get on the youview box?

The 1st generation BT Vision box was the grey one you refer to.
The 2nd generation BT Vision black box has been in use for a few years now.
There are suggestions that BT are testing a 3rd generation BT Vision HD box, but this is still under development and there are no official details on that yet.
The BT Youview HD box will be a separate thing. It is not designed to replace the BT Vision boxes. It gives those who want to make use of other non-BT Youview services an option to do that. However the BT Vision services via Youview will not be as comprehensive as those provided via the official BT Vision boxes.
See this BT help page.
BT Youview v BT Vision
Also see this previous thread discussing the differences.
Bt-vision-2-vs-you-view
Personally I don't really see the point of BT having their own branded Youview box. If people want a Youview box they can just go and choose one from those on offer in the shops. As far as I know Sky have no plans to create a Sky branded Youview box, yet they will still offer services on Youview. But who am I to say.

New bt vision box cuts off and re boots at least 6...

Any help would be great othis is matter , as title says my new bt vision black box keeps cutting off wether I'm on free view on demand or recordings its just cuts off and reboots up to 10 times in a 24 hour period it's driving me to the point of throwing it away !! I'm on infitity fttc and have steady 39 down 8 up connection speed , no other issued any ideas? Thanks

Do you have a black BT Vision box or the new BT YouView box with the big Orange and blue circle at the front?

New BT Vision Box delivered out of the blue

I have had a brand new black BT Vision Box delivered this morning out of the blue(I currently have on of the old silver boxes). The letter indicated that they were issueing everyone with a new box due to features being rolled out and that the silver box will stop working in 28 days. I have an almost full hard drive of programs and films and there is no way of transfering the data accross. They advise us to watch everything before sending the box back in a prepaid envelope.
As I don't want anything new to be recorded on the old box can I set up my new black box and still watch the recordings on the old box?
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rewsan wrote:
As I don't want anything new to be recorded on the old box can I set up my new black box and still watch the recordings on the old box?
Yes you can, but what you would need to do is -
leave the silver box plugged in to the mains and connected to the hub via the ethernet cable
then remove the ethernet cable from the silver box and connect this cable to the black box
switch the black box on and allow it to boot up
The silver box will then run and allow you to watch your recorded content
(putting the silver box in to standby is fine, but don't unplug the mains supply)
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BT Vision box signal strength indicator

Just received the latest black BT Vision box replacing an older version. Old version worked really well, good picture. New one using same leads and aerial point pixellates at times horribly. The signal quality indicator usually indicates 100% and is green in colour. The signal strength indicator varies: sometimes is shows over 70dBuV and is red, other times it is around 64dBuV and is orange and occasionally it is around 56dBuV an is green. What should it be? It pixellates even when the indicator is green. I had a big new roof aerial fitted a few years ago and there is a booster/distributor box in the roof - currently running just two tv's off it, although rarely at the same time.
Why does the new box not work when the old one did? What do I need to do to cure this? Is the signal too strong or too weak?! Any ideas out there?
Thanks, Graham

Thanks for the feedback. I have tried splitting the aerial with a passive splitter - perhaps marginally better but difficult to say. Even tried splitting again to the point where the signal was showing weak. The strength indicator seems to have a colour coding, starting off red with a weak signal, going orange, then green, then as the signal is stronger it goes orange again and back to red when too strong. I have hit the green optimum region and gone either side of it. Pixellation is always there. Reading all the posts on here about this, I am coming to the conclusion that I am not going to be able to fix this.
I may ask BT to reinstate the old box, it worked perfectly - I only asked for a replacement so that I can have BT Sports and the option of Sky sports. I will just have to stream BT sport to my laptop if I want it. I am a little disappointed about this though.

BT Vision Box unable to show Freeview HD channels ...

I have been sent a BT vision box due to the fact my Youview Box is unable to have the skysports channels I was told this was a newer box I was told on the phone and my youview box was outdated when I suscribed to the Skyports channels just last week. I plug in my BT vision box everything is fine except I am unable to watch Freeview HD channels.
The Problem is my BT Vision Box shows the Sport Channels except the freeview HD Channels, I get them on normal.
My Youview box shows the Freeview HD Channels and everything else expect the Sky sports channels.
I have spent 2 hours on the phone last week with the technical support team and probably even more as I called twice they even put me through to the sales team because I said I wasnt suscribed to freeview channels (because thats what it says on the TV) and everyone was telling me I was suscribed and I was unable to view the Freeview HD channels. I even took a day off work which I will not get back to get a freeview engineer guy to come to my house which the BT technical team sent and tell me theres nothing he can do and he checked my signal and said it was perfect and told me the Youview box was newer and the BT vision box was older even though I was told vice versa by a BT sales rep when I bought the Skysports channels.
So can someone help me so I can view all my channels I have and not have to swap between boxes and I do not want to speak people on the other side of the world to sort my problem out.
I have done the search channel and reset the box which has not worked.

bruceg87 wrote:
I have been sent a BT vision box due to the fact my Youview Box is unable to have the skysports channels I was told this was a newer box I was told on the phone and my youview box was outdated when I suscribed to the Skyports channels just last week.
Utter nonsense! The black BT Vision+ box came out at least 3.5 years ago. The BT Youview box came out just over 1 year ago.
The reason you can't have Sky Sports over Infinity on the BT Youview box is because Sky haven't agreed to let BT resell Sky Sports on that platform. It's not due to any technical limitation. BT have asked Ofcom to look into this.
The reason you can't pick up the Freeview HD channels over the aerial using the BT Vision+ box is because it is a much older box and doesn't have Freeview HD (DVB-T2) tuners. You need to pick them up over Infinity by getting the 'PSB HD' multicast entitlement added to your account.
The person on the phone was talking rubbish. The engineer was talking sense. His trip to your house sounds like a total waste of both your time and his time. At least BT paid for it I assume.

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