New Scenarios in Discovery System V3

Dear Experts!!
Can some body tell me what new industry specific scenarios have been added to the V3 of the Discovery system?
Many thanks,
Regards,
Sudeep

Hi Sudeep,
the documentation is online now. You can check here: SAP Discovery System v3 - Out-of-the-Box Demonstrations [original link is broken]
The documents might be enhanced over time with additional information.
Best Regards,
rAimund

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The development methodology of scenarios in Discovery system

Dear Experts,
I am new to the Discovery System(DS) and I have done all the scenarios of DS in my environment.
I would like to know following things regarding the scenarios:
1. How are the designing of the scenarios done?
When I have to design the scenario, what are the basic things I should bear in mind to make a business application for a client?
( Making simple WebDynpros and Visual composers are not that difficult, but I would like to know how the designing is done at first?
2. What are the basics to decide whether we will use the guided procedure or Visual composer to make a business workflow?
I am really looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks in advance
sudeep

Hi Sudeep,
1) typically you'd start with a definition of the scenario (business process) you'd like to cover. This could be done using any tool. Here https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d84c39c-0d01-0010-da89-f91b698cdfcd is an example how to do it for the Procurement Process that is on the Discovery System. After having the scenario 'on paper' you can have a look at the different steps and activities and map these to technology.
2) the main differentiator: GP would be used to tie different steps of a scenario together. VC would be used to design the user facing part. VC screens can be then integrated into the larger context of a GP.
Hope that helps,
rAimund

Adding additional scenarios to Discovery System

Since the Discovery System is SOA focused it does not contain the non SOA related scenarios. I believe it should be possible to configure other functionality on this server for Proof of Concepts. In particular I want to look at ESS/MSS functionality. Are there any technical reasons I cannot create a POC for this on the Discovery System? I would also be interested in any documentation on how to quickly build the ESS/MSS system.

hi Dave,
Some of the ESS/MSS components are installed on the Discovery System, but not all of them have been configured. MSS My Budget configuration has been completed.
ESS/MSS installation/ configuration documents are available in the SAP service market place- https://websmp202.sap-ag.de/mss
Thanks,
Deepa

Newbie to Discovery System

Hi,
I am new to this discovery system. Can you please let me know if this would be similar to an application server which we add to the log on pad? Will this server come with an additional component which will allow customers to implement SOA?
Thanks

Hi Vin,
This is a complete system that includes ERP05 and NetWeaver04s (including Portal, BI, Web AS, XI, MDM etc..).
Besides the technical components it also includes several example sceanrios that demonstrate the concepts of enterprise SOA.
All this is currently packages on an HP server.
For further reading information:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/developerareas/esa/esadiscovery
For ordering information:
http://www.hp.com/sbso/special/serverstorage/sap.html?jumpid=ex_r295_go/server/sap/kimISS/3Q06DL380/events/flyers/052606
Regards,
Itai

Use of Discovery System :question from a vendors perspective

Hi all
I have a question regarding Discovery System(DS) from a vendors perspective.
what can client actually do with the DS as soon as they buy it, beside using the demo scenario?
Going through the demo if the client decides to use Discovery system, What sorts of works are necessary for fitting the DS and replacing the existing system? Lets us suppose that the client is previously using SAP software(R/3), in this case how he can start using the DS?
Does he have to set a project, the size that of while implementing R/3, and use a great deal of resource for doing the fitting work, the add-ons and testing?
I am just curious about the approximate cost of the implementation and how the client can be persuaded for the ROI on DS.
I am really looking forward to hearing from you.
thanks in advance
sudeep

Hi Sudeep,
to your questions:
- planning migrations
You can evaluate what you will get (technically and functionally) after a migration by looking at the Discovery System already in advance. Customers use that option to shortlist and prioritize new stuff to implement after a migration.
- evaluate compliance tools
Almost the same as above with the difference in the tools/topics. Check out on the DS what you will get in the area of compliance tools without the need for a dedicated project/system.
- simulate business processes
Use the modeling and composition tools to develop new variations of business processes to better suite the needs of your business.
POC's = proof of concepts
Hope that helps,
rAimund

Discovery System: Problems with exposing RFC as web service

We have a version 2 discovery system and have successfully implemented the three exercises from the TechEd workshop (Sales Order Distribution, Creating a PO Store Record WS, Adding a New Step to the Procurement Scenario with SAP CAF GP). It seems to work fine except for two issues with the RFC/WS:
1) The RFC, and therefore the WS, always returns an empty string instead of the 'X' that the documentation shows in Step 4.h. We checked the RFC itself and it looks like it has an error with the price field; it always appends a blank to the end of the price string and then errors.
2) The created web service does not show up on the Web Services Navigator page. Since the instructions tell you to save the URL to the WSDL, we can find the web service and test it, but you cannot find it on the Navigator page.
Neither of these problems are huge, but they make me worry that something is not quite right in the Discovery System and we may end up with larger problems later. Any ideas what could cause these two problems, and how to fix them?
Thanks, Eric
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Hi Eric,
First of all let me assure you that your system is perfectly fine and both topics that you have raised are the way the system is suppose to respond.
1. The reason that the service is returning a null is because you are entering the same input parameters more than once. Since some of the parameters are used as primary key's in the database, you will need to change them in order to successfully store the data.
2. The reason that you don't see the service in the Navigator page is because this service resides in the ERP and not in WebAS. Only services deployed on the WebAS will appear in the Web Service Navigator page.
Thanks,
Itai

DISCOVERY System and its Components

Hello,
Do you know what all the SAP componets are combined in the SAP Discovery System??
Like ERP2005, NW2004s, EP, CAF, BI, MDM...anything else????
Is this list correct??? Please update me with the complete list...
Thank you,
Nikee

Hi,
that is going to be a long list:
SAP NetWeaver 04s
Portal (SAP NW Portal)
Application Server (SAP NW AS)
Process Integration (SAP NW XI)
Master Data Management (SAP NW MDM)
Business Intelligence (SAP BW)
Visual Composer with BI toolkit
SAP Enterprise Core Component - ECC 6.0 (configured with SAP Best Practices tool suite)
Detailed guidance: how to re-deploy scenarios or key content in your own environment
Fully documented prototype and development environment (with a working example to evaluate)
Complete composite application code
xApps for personal productivity
Production Order Rescheduling
Store-Specific Consumer Price
Request for New Supplier Master Data
Request for Quotation Approval
Strategic Investment Buy Simulation
SAP RFID Solution
SAP GRC Access Control
Composite Toolbox
SAP xApp Analytics
Travel Expense Exception
Investment Approval
Other
Microsoft Windows 2003
Microsoft SQL Server 2005
Hope that I did not forget anything.
In short: It covers technology and content.
Best Regards,
rAimund

Export data from discovery system?

Hi all,
I have tested some scenarios on the discovery system, and would like to apply them on our own system.
Now I have the problem that I have no Customers, Products or anything else which for example I need for the service create sales order.
My Question is:
Is it possible to export the data on the discovery system to my system to avoid creating new ones at my system?

Exporting data is not supported in version 7 and in System 9 and above it only exports in a native format that can be used for reloading. The three ways I know of are Report scripts, MDX expressions run from MAxL(or EAS or Smartview) and Star Analytics integration Server.It is a third party tool and I'm not even sure if it works on version 7 ASO cubes.(I'm preetty sure it does)

IDES vs. Discovery System

Hi,
What are the differences between SAP Discovery System and IDES? For example, does Discovery system include all standard SAP transactions (like IDES includes) etc.? Can we create our own scenarios or do we have to use only preconfigured ones?
Br,
Hannu
Edited by: Hannu Alakangas on Feb 1, 2008 7:27 PM

Hi Hannu,
The SAP Discovery System's ERP (SAP ECC 6.0) is configured using the SAP Best Practices Baseline (in v2.0 we have the baseline for ECC5.0 and in v3.0 we have the baseline for ECC6.0) offering for the US. The master data etc. is provided by SAP Best Practices, not IDES. Therefore IDES data is not in the system but only data needed for our specific scenarios is there.
IDES and SAP Best Practices vary significantly.
First, the SAP Best Practices is delivered with an implementation configuration set, not just as a reference. This means that all of the configuration settings are captured into BC sets that can be activated in a new system, captured in transports and transported from Dev to QA and Production.
Additionally, the Best Practices have accompanying configuration guides so that if someone were to use the system as a reference and wanted to know what configuration was activated in the system, they would be able to find out.
SAP Best Practices is fully reusable content either for sandbox, prototype, development, or production. Each SAP Best Practice may have either an industry or cross-industry focus which will help the customer for blueprinting. In the case of the Discovery System, we used our most generic ERP offering, "Baseline".
IDES on the other hand is a fully configured reference system which may have process documentation, but the configuration is not delivered in a way that can be transported outside of a sandbox environment.
Hope that clarifies.
rAimund

BI in the discovery system

Hi guys,
We have the discovery system for almost 2 months.
I would like to exlore the BI content that comes with it,
the problem is that when I try to open or create a query I get the error mesages
Terminate: Unexpected error: BExOpenSaveServices - GetNodes: RFC Exeptions
Terminate: query designer must be restarted; further work not possible.
Any ideas
Thanks
Shlomi

Hi,
that is going to be a long list:
SAP NetWeaver 04s
Portal (SAP NW Portal)
Application Server (SAP NW AS)
Process Integration (SAP NW XI)
Master Data Management (SAP NW MDM)
Business Intelligence (SAP BW)
Visual Composer with BI toolkit
SAP Enterprise Core Component - ECC 6.0 (configured with SAP Best Practices tool suite)
Detailed guidance: how to re-deploy scenarios or key content in your own environment
Fully documented prototype and development environment (with a working example to evaluate)
Complete composite application code
xApps for personal productivity
Production Order Rescheduling
Store-Specific Consumer Price
Request for New Supplier Master Data
Request for Quotation Approval
Strategic Investment Buy Simulation
SAP RFID Solution
SAP GRC Access Control
Composite Toolbox
SAP xApp Analytics
Travel Expense Exception
Investment Approval
Other
Microsoft Windows 2003
Microsoft SQL Server 2005
Hope that I did not forget anything.
In short: It covers technology and content.
Best Regards,
rAimund

Use of Discovery System

I am interested in getting the Discovery system. I want to use it as a means of exploring the SAP functionality for my organization. We are a cargo airline and would like to explore if SAP is a good fit for our Aircraft Maninenace, repair and Overhaul module (MRO) as well scenarios in Finace , SD and MM.
I am not interested in learning about SOA except as a by product, but to evaluate the functionality of the different modules like GRC, Solution Manager and XI.
Is it possible to configure things given I have the proper SAP license ? What kind of a license would I need ?
Information is difficult to come by even from HP itself or SAp.
Please respond.

Hi Anju,
In general: Of course you can use the Discovery system to evaluate whatever software or functionality is installed on the box. So this is definitely true for the ERP modules, GRC, Solution Manager and XI as mentioned below. The DS comes with full administrative rights making it possible for you to configure anything you want (having a backup in place is advised).
Licensing:
You need to have an SAP ERP or SAP Business Suite license in place to activate the Discovery system. This will give you the chance to evaluate the software and components on the system for a maximum of up-to 6 month (for those components you don't have licensed yet). However customer specific licensing is somewhat unique. Therefore it is advised to contact your SAP account manger or sales representative to find out about your specific situation in detail.
Hope that helps,
rAimund

UME persistence error in Discovery System 2.0

We are trying to add a new user in the Portal in HP Discovery System 2.0 and we are getting the following error:
"An error occurred in the persistence; contact your system administrator".
Any help is appreciated.
Also, this is for the Moderators - how do we open a customer message with SAP on Discovery System issues - I do not see one for the Discovery System in the marketplace for reporting Product Errors .
Thanks
Venkat

Hi rAimund:
Thanks for your suggestion. That is what I tried first - SU01 created a user , but this user never shows up in the Portal. Next I tried to create the user and got the User Persistence error.
Question - even if we create the users in the ABAP still if we have to maintin User Mapping we have to perform that inside Portal Personalization or User Admin.
This error is not allowing us to do anything on the portal.
We have not changed anything in the Discovery System.
Thanks

SAP Discovery system access to BI and EP

Dear support,
We have setup our Discovery System and were trying to connect it to our DEV 4.7 system for the purpose of prototyping the use of BI and the Enterprise Portal. Were running into issues due to our lack of knowledge and SAPs lack of good documentation in these areas. Were wondering if theres any support help you can provide to establish the connections between these systems and get some of the packaged functionality activated? Please let me know.
Is there any document provided to establish connection between Discovery system and BI system or any netweaver system
Best Regards,
AjitR

AJit, lots of points of learning here.
firstly, have you run through the basic excercises associated with the discovery system, including defining your own scenarios that you wish to test just using the components on the server?
I am sure you have already looked here but this is the jump off page to the discovery server assets.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/esadiscovery
As for connectivity from the DS to the 4.7 ERP, you should either be configuring your XI instance to manage the interaction, or web service enabling the BAPI you wish to interact with and calling it from the visual composer tooling on the server.
Also, you can raise a support ticket following the usual process if you have a specific issue or cnnectivity requirements on you 4.7 instance.
Finally, are you sure you want to use your backend erp and not the erp2005 deployed on the box?

WSCONFIG Problem while creating Webservices in ECC Discovery System.

Hi,
I am creating a webservice in ECC Discovery system, whereas in i am getting the following error when trying to release the webservice using Tcode: WSCONFIG.
Error:
An attempt was made to edit the service definition ZWS_SaleOrderCreate_Test with transaction WSCONFIG. This is not possible for this service definition, since it has a new service definition version (release 710 and later).
Procedure
Use the web service configuration interface offered by the ITSAM framework.
Your helpful answers will appreciated.
Advance Thanks
Ashok

Hi,
WSCONFIG is obsolete since Netweaver 7.0 SP14.
With Netweaver 7.0 you have to use transaction SOAMANAGER instead.
With Netweaver 7.10, I don't know as I have never used it.
Regards,
Olivier

Future Version of the SAP Enterprise SOA Discovery System

Hi,
what happens, if a new version of the system is available. I understood, that the system can be patched and new components can be installed. Do I have to buy a new box or can I make an update?
Would it be possible to add a image of the complete system to the distribution, so the system can easily be reset after something went wrong?

Hi,
it's currently a bit early to talk about future versions of the Discovery System. Nothing is finally decided yet.
The applications on the Discovery System can be patched and upgraded as any other SAP software installation. And you are free to add software to the system.
Shipping an image is a nice idea. I am not aware if HP is not shipping that already.
Best Regards,
rAimund

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