New System Build For Premiere 5.5 Looking For Advice
Hi there, this is my first time on here and it looks like this is the best place for advice.
So I've been tasked to build a new computer for a client for Premiere 5.5. He's running a very basic studio setup and his main complaint is how it takes
such a long time to render video. He told me it takes him about 6 hours to render a 40 minute sequence to MPEG2 standard(this is what he mostly renders as). I did some playing around and it turns out that his current system is relatively good but it uses a HD 6990 as its GPU(which can't even take advantage of Premier's hardware rendering capability!)
Now initially I was going to go the all SSD route with a a budget of about $2500 or so. However, after doing some reading on here, I've decided that this
isn't necessarily the best way. So I will only run the OS of an SSD. Here is what I have so far:
PROCESSOR:
Intel Core i7-2600K Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.40Ghz, 8MB L3 Cache
(I will overclock this as much as possilbe with the Noctua cooler)
MOTHERBOARD:
Asus P8Z68-V Pro Socket 1155 Intel Z68 Chipset
RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) 16GB (4x4GB) Dual Channel Kit
VIDEO CARD:
EVGA GeForce GTX 570 HD Superclocked 1280MB GDDR5 (012-P3-1573-AR) nVidia GeForce GTX 570Chipset(797MHz) 1280MB GDDR5 Memory(3900MHz)
POWER SUPPLY:
OCZ ZX Series 1000W Fully Modular 80 Plus Gold Certified Power Supply (OCZ-ZX1000W)
HARD DRIVES:
OCZ Vertex 2 SATA II 2.5" 120GB Solid State Drive (OPERATING SYSTEM DISK)
Western Digital VelociRaptor (WD3000HLFS) 300GB SATA II 10000RPM 16MB x2 (Project Disk Run in RAID 0)
Western Digital VelociRaptor (WD3000HLFS) 300GB SATA II 10000RPM 16MB x2 (Output Disk Run in RAID 0)
CPU COOLER:
Noctua NH-D14 Six Heatpipe Dual Radiator CPU Cooler
OPTICAL DRIVE:
ASUS DRW-24B1ST Black SATA
Now if there are any suggestions, PLEASE let me know how I can improve this build. I really don't want to disappoint the guy, especially if he isn't going to get a great performance boost in terms of rendering time. Considering he can't use GPU acceleartion right now on his $600+ card, I would imagine this should be a better build.
Also, will there be a problem if I run four hard drives in RAID 0 mode using the motherboards onboard RAID capability?
Photomaster,
I think you are on the right track to speed up this guys system (2600k w/ OC, dual RAID 0) and I second Harm's comment about large 7200 drives being better than the prev. generation VR 300GB drives (HLFS series).
Be aware however that "rendering" does mean different things, and if you are thinking that MPE will increase AME rendering to MPEG2-DVD by 10x you will be very disappointed! Here is the rest of the story...
Timeline rendering, as benchmarked in PPBM5, will indeed speed up on the order of 10x with the addition of MPE using the appropriate nVidia hardware. PPBM5 is a test carefully constructed test that represents how long it takes for Adobe Premiere Pro to prepare (render) a timeline for playback. In actual use, your results will vary. Some timelines may only be sped up by 2x (i.e. very complex and/or using non-MPE effects, filters, etc.) to more than 1,000,000x faster for the case where a non-MPE system requires rendering, whereas the MPE system can play back the timeline without ANY rendering (i.e. simple SD timelines with MPE compliant effects).
Next, full timeline rendering and "exporting" from a Premiere Pro timeline to MPEG2-DVD format are both sped up, but more on the order of 2x. On my fast quad-core system, I'm getting about a 1.8x improvement from MPE assistance using the PPBM5 project for testing.
Finally, using Adobe Media Encoder (AME), and I can only speak for CS5, the MPE hardware does not even come into play and does not speed things up at all. On a positive note, Harm has reported that AME ver. 5.5 ran just over 2x as fast as ver 5.0.3; possibly the newer version is in fact tapping the MPE hardware for this gain?
Regards,
Jim
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4.System HD
Western Digital VelociRaptor 150GB 10000RPM SATA-II 16MB Cache
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-236-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat =167
£135.00
5a.Storage HD's
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat =1279
£57.00
5b.OR
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-336-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat =1279
£77.00
6a. Quiet Case
Coolermaster Sileo 500 Silent Case - Black
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-164-CM
£63.00
6b. OR
Antec Solo Quiet Mini Tower Case
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-058-AN&tool=3
£73.00
6c. OR
Antec Sonata III Piano Black Quiet Case
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-073-AN&tool=3
£105.00
7a. CPU Fan/Cooling
Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-011-NC
£67.00
7b. OR
Corsair H50 CPU Watercooling
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-002-CS
£67.00
8a. Graphics Card
Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1526MB
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=46710
£435.00
8b. OR
nVidia GeForce GTX 470 PCI-Expres VGA Card 1280MB
Eclipse Computers
£312.00
8c. OR
PNY Quadro FX 1800 768MB
£266.00
9a. Quiet Power Supply
Corsair HX 750W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-018-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subca t=1084
£130.00
9b. OR
Corsair HX 1000W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-012-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subca t=1084
£195.00
10. Windows 7 Pro 64Bit
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit - OEM
Overclockers
£120.00
1. Has been recommended on these forums. Good to have USB3.0.
2. CPU is affordable and fast, with the ability to overclock it if I feel the need for a bit more speed in the future.
3. Would love 12GB, but will start with 6GB and perhaps add more later.
4. Started looking at Solid State Drives as I love the comments about how fast they load programs, etc., however as they are still really expensive felt that going with a fast standard drive would be best. As I plan on having a dual boot system, I would get two of these. One would have OS, CS5 and all my other software installed and the other one would have the minimum for CS5 installed and the OS tweaked for performance with video editing.
5. Both seem like great drives. Anyone any preference? Would plan on getting two and use one to store video rushes and the other for previews and the page file. Would getting a HD with a 6GB/s interface be worth it?
6. I want a quiet case and one that's no higher than 45cm. I already own the Antec Solo and I like the elastic HD mounting. Anyone any preference?
7. Noctua comes recommended on these forums, however am concerned with it's size. Love the idea of water cooling an the H50 system make it easier and less fuss being a closed system. Final choice must be quiet and I've read differing reviews on both.
8. Can't wait to use the MPE, so want a decent card. Torn between getting a cheaper card and upgrading later or spending the money now on a GTX480 and doing the software hack until fully supported.
9. With a GTX480 would a 750w PSU be enough?
GRAPHICS CARD
I've read reports of the GTX480 not being faster than the 2XX version card, however am I not correct in saying that the 2XX cards are no longer being sold? Should I be looking for a card from a particular manufacturer, i.e. Asus, Gainward, Point of View, Gigabyte? Or even Nvidia themselves?
I am worried about the heat generated by the GTX480 and the associated fan noise to cool it. Any thoughts?
Love the water cooling solution, perhaps some day. http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-480-liquid-cooling-danger-den-review/1
HD SET-UP
C:
WD VelociRaptor 150GB
Main System
C:
WD VelociRaptor 150GB
Video System
D:
DVD Burner
E:
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB
Video rushes
F:
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB
Video previews / Page File
G:
1.5TB
Other storage
H:
1.5TB
Other storage
DUAL BOOT
For my dual boot, has anyone had experience of using a HD caddy like this one? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172727
I read a review which said that there was no real speed difference as there is no interface card, just a cable to the motherboard. It would make my dual boot less complicated to set-up as I wouldn't need to use Win 7 to dual boot or use 3rd party software like Acronis OS Selector. It would also free up space for a further internal HD.
PREMIERE OUTPUT TO A HDMI SCREEN
I've been going back and forward on the best solution to get a proper output of my timeline in Premiere to an external monitor. I was set to go with the Matrox MX02 Mini, however some here have said they're unstable (to a degree). Although with the CS5 drivers not out yet, perhaps it's too early to say.
Although none of my video work has been for broadcast (so far), I see a great benefit from being able to preview my timeline on a TV screen as opposed to a PC monitor. I will be running two screens so I need both outputs from the graphics card.
I look forward to receiving your collective wisdom.Here are the components I plan to buy this week:
Description
Inc VAT
1000W Corsair CMPSU-1000HXUK, ATX, EPS12V, PS/2, Modular Power Supply, UK Version, 5 Year Warranty
£184.11
300GB Western Digital WD3000HLFS VelociRaptor, SATA 3Gb/s, 10000rpm, 16MB Cache, 4.2 ms
£154.78
Coolermaster ATCS 840 Classic Full Tower Aluminum Case, Black w/o PSU
£143.31
1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ, OEM
(2x) £96.30
Sony AD-5240S-0B 24x DVDR 12xDVDDL DVDRW x8/-RWx6 SATA Black
£14.99
12GB (6x2GB) Corsair Dominator, DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), CAS 8-8-8-24, DHX, XMP, DF, 1.65V
£357.34
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit, Single, - OEM
£110.53
Intel Core i7 930 D0 SLBKP Bloomfield 45nm, 2.8 GHz, QPI 4.8GT/s, 8MB Cache, 20x Ratio, 130W, Retail
£236.37
1280MB Asus GTX 470, 40nm, 3348MHz GDDR5, GPU 607MHz, Shader 1215MHz, 448 Cores, 2xDVI,mini HDMI
£293.13
Asus P6X58D-E, Intel X58, S1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 1333/1600/2000, SATA 3Gb/s RAID, ATX
£168.22
Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/LGA1156/LGA775/AM2/AM2)
£66.99
Noctua NF-P12 Vortex-Control 120mm Quiet Case Fan - 3 Pin
£17.61
Noctua NF-S12B ULN Ultra Low Noise 120mm Cooling Fan, 500/700 RPM
£16.99
Plus a couple of PSU to motherboard extension cables and Windows 7 Pro. It was mentioned by someone that the CPU thermal paste you get with the HN-D14 is fine, so no need to buy anything else.
One extra fan (NF-S12B) to cool hard drives and the other for somewhere else in the case. Perhaps I don't need these.
I presume that I should try and get an OEM CPU as I'll not need the heatsink and fan that'll be in the retail version?
I'm just waiting for Scan to get the case back in stock. Should be today. All priced at Scan, except last three items which are from Overclockers.
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Video Editing Build
Premiere Pro & AE
Drive layout
C: SSD - OS and Programs
SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
D: 1TB - Projects/Scratch
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
E: 3TB - Media (with offsite bachup)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
F: 250 GB - Exports
Western Digital WD VelociRaptor WD2500HHTZ 250GB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
G: SSD - Global Cache (for After Effects)
SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
EVGA 04G-P4-3687-KR GeForce GTX 680 FTW+ w/Backplate 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K
COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750-ACAAD3-US 750W ATX12V v2.31 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
2 CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1866C9
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Water Cooler
Koutech IO-RCM630 Multi-in-1 USB 3.0 SuperSpeed Front Panel Internal Card Reader with USB 3.0 Port (3.5")
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Total $2912.83
Would have liked a raid 5 for media but the Asus X79 does not have enough Sata 6Gb/s the Asrock version has but does not have the SSD Caching port
which I think and hope will work well with the 2 SSD cards. 1 for the OS and the other for the Globel cache for AE (not set up as raid 0)
Maybe down the road I could add a seperate raid card to run 3 extra drives on a raid 5 ?
Any way I would love to your feed back from you guys before I pull the lever on this as all this jazz is pretty new to me. I have built a few systems in the past but
would like to get better on AE. Going this time for ease of performance and as little bottlenecks as I can and at the same time keeping it simple.
Cheers
Murph I am no expert as this
Found this on Adobe TV How to optimize AE for High Performance. It made the most sence to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4D9ScFcM3MUpdate just wondering which disc setup would work best with my set up for the best performance ?
ASUS Sabertooth X79
Option 1
C: OS and Program SAMSUNG 840 Pro (6Gb/s SSD caching sata)
D: Projects/Scratch WD Black 2TB 7200 (6Gb/s sata)
E: Media. Seagate Barracuda 7200 3TB (6Gb/s sata)
F: Exports. WD VelociRaptor 250GB 10000 RPM (3Gb/s sata)
G: SSD - Globel Cache (for After effects) SAMSUNG 840 Pro 120GB (6Gb/s SSD caching sata)
Option 2 ( pretty much the same as mellofell13, members setup)
C: OS and Program SAMSUNG 840 Pro 256GB (6Gb/s SSD caching sata)
D: Media & Projects 2x Western Digital 1TB Caviar black Raid 0 (6Gb/s sata) Marvell
E: Exports & previews. 2x Western Digital 1TB Caviar black Raid 0 (3Gb/s sata)
F: temp files, media cache, Globel Cache (for After effects)
SAMSUNG 840 Pro 120GB (6Gb/s SSD caching sata)
Just trying to make the final dicision on this any help would be greatly appreciated
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How to configure new system landscape in portal server for bsp iview
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can you tell me what are the necessary parameters (apart form default parameters that were there while creating new system landscape) for configuring a system landscape for using it in bsp iviews.
thanks & regards
AshutoshHello,
what you call system name has to be the system alias, and this alias has to be the same between DEV/QUAL/PROD environment.
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Can I clean install a Windows 7 Pro System Builder on a Lenovo PC with Windows 8 preinstalled?
Hi. I would like to clean install windows 7 on a Lenovo PC that came with Windows 8 core preinstalled. I want to format the entire drive and remove windows 8 and clean install windows 7. I already tried the clean install of Windows 7 Pro to get all of my drivers in line, and now I would like to buy a Product Key.
Would a Windows 7 Pro System Builder work in my case? Would it work just as smoothly as a retail version? I understand that the System Builder is an OEM version that includes the Product Key, COA, and DVD) Just want to make sure before I buy the System Builder version of Windows 7 Pro. Thanks.
Grazzie
Solved!
Go to Solution.that should be retail since it seemed to be used for pc upgrades either way your new system builder key should work. those are called refresh because they re-released them sincea bug was found in thier installers. Do you have any key in the computer atm? or is windows just waiting to be activated?
EDIT: its a good copy look here> http://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/14-windows-7-direct-download-links
Should you want to use the DVD images permanently, and don't own a product key yet, you can order a Windows 7 OEM or retail version from Amazon. The OEM reinstallation versions contain a DVD with a product key just like the retail versions. They are significantly cheaper, but lack a proper box packaging, and don't include technical support by Microsoft. The OEM key will work with the Digital River downloads, so you can just pick the cheapest one. Sometimes better editions are the cheaper ones, so all of the following links to Amazon offers might be worth checking. I've already tried to find good deals for all editions and linked to them here:
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"cs5.5 has stopped working" in new sytem build
(I mistakenly posted this in the general forum section- can I delete that post?)
When scrolling through a 50 minute long nested sequence containing 2 layers( one turned off ) of 1920x1080 AVC-Intra 100 P2, cs5.5 crashes. The source footage is on an external eSata Lacie Raid 0 drive.
I had many an issue like this back in cs4 days with continual crashing with large files but dont remember the solution. I have tried a few searches on this forum but cant seem to navigate the search engine to find anything... This is a brand new system build so I may not have win7 tweaked properly? Thank you for any suggestions.
Operating System
MS Windows 7 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7 @ 3.50GHz 45 °C
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
32.0 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z68XP-UD4 (Socket 1155) 34 °C
Graphics
DELL 2405FPW (1920x1200@59Hz)
Panasonic-TV (1920x1080@60Hz)
2560MB GeForce GTX 570 (EVGA) 49 °C
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147GB Western Digital WDC WD1500HLHX-01JJPV0 ATA Device (SATA) 28 °C
625GB Western Digital WDC WD6401AALS-00L3B2 ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C
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313GB Western Digital WDC WD3200KS-00PFB0 ATA Device (SATA) 35 °C
1954GB eSATA-2 LaCie 2BigQuadr SCSI Disk Device (SATA)
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