New system/Northbridge fan

Hi all,
I'm planning to buy some new parts for my machine:
* MSI K8N Diamond Plus
* Athlon 64bit 3500+ venice
* Kingston pc4000 1GB mem
* Tagan 530Watt PSU
* Zalman CNPS9500 Led CPU cooler
What do u think about this configuration?
And my second question is the northbridge fan, i don't like it :(
Currently i have an MSI 875P neo, this board also had an annoying NB fan which i've removed because
it wasn't really needed and it did make allot of noise.
But is this also possible with the: MSI K8N Diamond Plus board or am i going to fry this one when removed?
I'm not planning to overclock the system and have pretty good cooling (i think ) in my case:
Thermaltake soprano case
2x 12CM fan (front/back)
1x 12CM fan in PSU
Thanks in advance!

Configuration is nice,for PSU look also to my Antec http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=24480 or http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=28550 because it have cable management and you can install only the cables you need,in 6 years with Antec PSU's never have one single problem.With the northbrige fan look the response that was given to me by a forum member http://hem.legend.se/kammaren/temp/chipgpu.pdf But on my mobo doesn't fit so I use zalman fanmate 2 to reduce the rpm of the fan and now is ok the noise

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Does a new system need FAN Controllers ?

I was thinking about getting this case:
COOLER MASTER HAF932
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213
With this motherboard:
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131614&Tpk=asus%20p6x58d
My Question is if a fan controller is needed or wanted ?
I was looking at this one:
1ST PC CORP. FC-FC3-S Lamptron 5.25" 4-channel fan controller, 30w/channel, 3-pin fan & molex power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811997020
Thanks: GLenn

Thanks Harm.
I thought I gave you points and closed it but I must have not.
I think I wont worry about it and keep them on like you say.
More money spent on better disk setup anyway.
Thanks: Glenn

Can anyone recommend me a Northbridge fan replacement?

I have a MSI K8N Neo4-F nForce4 and recently i have been experiencing random crashes and lock ups which i think are due to the northbridge fan failing (it was making horrible noises).
I tried to replace this with the Asaka heatsink/fan combination thing but it didn't fit under the graphics card as there is only about 1.5cm vertical space available. Can anyone recommend a replacement suitable for this motherboard? Preferably a cheap one. =)
Also -i don't know much about chipset- is it safe to run the computer without a northbridge fan installed assuming i don't do anything intensive like games or whatever?
Thanks in advance.

I was sniffing around some other forums,(as you do), when I came across this post. It sounds intresting, and may be worth giving it a try.
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"Repair your noisy cpu and system fans
This is a fix that will last for a long, long time.
Buy some graphite powder and some oil at an auto or hardware store. They come in different packages. For oil, the best is the pen-type as they are easy to handle and only give a small amount at a time. Just about any oil in a pen format will work fine. The graphite powder comes in small plastic tubes. But make sure you get graphite powder, not graphite oil, its too thin for this job! So you need graphite powder in a small tube and oil in a round "pen" that can be squeezed out and placed just where you need it. Also, when the oil is used up in the "pen" you can open it and add your own oil.
First, clean the fan blades off real well. If you have a heatsink with the fan then clean the heatsink off as well. You can even use a bit of your oil and some q-tips for cleaning if needed. Then, take the small circle, it usually has a name on it, but its in the middle of the fan. Peel one edge up carefully and put a very small amount of oil in where you lifted the label up. Now add some graphite powder in the same place where you put the oil, add as much or a bit more of the graphite powder than the oil. Clean off excess oil and graphite and push the label back where it was. You may need a very small amount of duct tape to hold the label in position and to prevent leakage. This is important if the fan is going to "sit up" as opposed to lying flat.
Now put the fan back where you want it and when it starts spinning it may be noisy for a few seconds until the graphite\oil works its way in. Then it will stop and it will stay stopped for many years and you may very well not need to buy a new fan after all!
I experimented a lot with this and this is the very best way to quiet all those fans and have them work well. I have always been a big fan of those removable ide hard drive trays that you can buy. But the fans are the pits, they get noisy real fast. So i had to find a way to fix them as they are very expensive and hard to replace. Now i don't have to. Combo of oil and graphite is the very best, by far. One caution, graphite stains worse than
oil, so be careful! I'm talking about staining your clothes and hands.
You can use this system with all CPU fans, video card fans, system fans, and even fans inside power supplies. But one word of caution, its easy to open a power supply and take out the fan, but do be careful as there are voltages there can can hurt you badly. If you don't know what you are doing then wear rubber gloves to get the fan out and to put the fan back in after the
repair!
Trust me, this will work. If the fan spins my method will work for years and I have even fixed fans that were stuck and wouldn't spin! This is better done with the fan on the table but in those cases where you cant or don't want
to take the fan out of the system, that's where the "pen" with the needle comes in again, but i still find a way to get some graphite in as well, graphite is what makes the oil last a long time! And graphite is also an oil, but you need both together for maximum effectiveness. Oil by itself will only last a few weeks or so and then evaporate, and the fan will get noisy again. Its the graphite powder that does the long term job. The oil really only helps to spread the graphite powder around really well so the graphite can do the job!
Hope you do as well as i have with this info!"
End Quote.
Edit - Additional Info
The type of northbridge fan used on some MSI boards, eg K8N Platinum & Diamond etc, require that you remove the fan from the board first (you will have to remove the motherboard to do this). This is because the top of the shroud is attached from the bottom by two tiny Phillips type screws. Once you have removed the shroud, very gently prise off the fan from the motor assembly. There is no need to try and remove the three other tiny screws that secure the fan motor in place to the bottom half of the shroud. Once removed, you will see that under the fan is a small plastic pin that holds the sleeve bearing in place.
Russell.

P965 Platinum northbridge fan?

Right now, I'm only trying to overclock my E6600 to 3 GHz. In my BIOS, I have FSB at 333MHz, CPU +0.1V (about 1.39V), DDR at 2.1V, and Northbridge at 1.51V. My DDR is set to 1:1, so it is only running at 666MHz 4-4-4-15 (rated at 800, 4-4-4-15). It is failing Orthos after about 15 minutes. The system is stable at 2700MHz. Intel thermal monitor and MSI dual-cell both report CPU temp at about 44C under load. The only thing that I noticed is the Northbridge heatsink is very hot. Are you guys installing a fan for it? If so, is it possible to buy a fan to put on top of the heatsink, or do I need to buy a new heatsink/fan? Some links would be much appreciated.
Also, any other tips for the BIOS? I wasn't too sure what settings to put in the "Advanced" menu.
Thanks.

It doesn't seem like a lack of a Northbridge fan is my problem. I'll try relaxing the DDR timings.
How can I tell if my memory is working in dual channel?
Also, when I power on, the MSI screen says:
MSI P965 Platinum A7238IMS V1.2 110806
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU [email protected], Speed: 333x9=2997MHz
A 266MHz system bus processor is installed. This processor is not supported on this system board, and will run at reduced processor clock speed. System performance will be impacted.
The MCH is operating with DDR2 CL4/Trcd4/Trp4/Tras15
2048MB OK
Is the bus message normal during post because I overclocked? In Windows all tools (such as Orthos and CPU-Z) say 3 GHz, 333 FSB.
And I don't see anything about dual-channel during post. What am I looking for?

K8N Neo4 (MS-7125) northbridge fan replacement?

Hello, all. I have started to build a new system using the K8N Neo4 Ultra (MS-7125) mobo. When installing the mobo yesterday, I noticed for the first time that two of the fan blades for the northbridge had broken off. They were not in the anti-static bag and this was the first time I had the board out. I ordered this on May 25, so I can't return it.
Would it be a good idea to replace the fan?
Any suggestions on what to use for a replacement?
Will I need to take the mobo back out of the case to replace the fan?
Thanks much.

Should still be under warranty from MSI so you should be able to RMA the board by contacting them

New System - No POST, No Beep Codes

Hey guys,
So I built a new system last night, powered everything on and everything seemed to come on as expected but there was absolutely nothing on the screen. The system MIGHT be posting properly because I see the keyboard lights flash when I first turn it on, then the Numlock light stays on as normal. Also, when I press the numlock key it toggles the light as it should, and a ctrl-alt-del on the keyboard seems to reset the system as well (fan speeds change and lights blink just as they do when pressing the actual reset button on the case). Additionally, when I had the drives connected it sounded like it was checking them looking for something to boot (even though the hard drive is blank right now). However, I'm not sure that they're just making noise simply because they have power and are doing things like spinning down after not being used for a minute or two.
There are no beeps or alerts coming from the motherboard that I can see/hear. I also disconnected all the drives to see if that helped, but it was still the same thing. I have not yet tried to take the mainboard out of the case and running it with only CPU/RAM/video; I plan to try that tonight as a next step.
I'm guessing that this means there is something wrong with the video card, but I'm not 100% sure, and wanted to see if others had ideas before I try exchanging the video card. Unfortunately I don't have another PCI-E system that I can simply test the video card in.
This motherboard should beep if it detects a problem, correct?
Are there any LEDs on the board that could help me diagnose something? I don't think it came with a D-bracket. There are the 4 CPU_Phase LEDs on the board, and I believe two of them are lit up while it's running, but I'm not sure how to interpret those LEDS. Anyone know what exactly they indicate (more than what the manual says, which is just that 2, 3, or 4 lights indicates that the CPU is in 2-phase 3-phase, or 4-phase power modes).
Am I correct in assuming that since the lights on the keyboard seem to behave as normal and that ctrl-alt-del works as normal that the motherboard is probably okay?
Any other ideas or suggestions?
Thanks!

You can try to clear CMOS and try out with another video card.

New system recommendations and suggestions

I am in the market (finally) for a new system, and even though I had issues with my old MSI 975X Platinum PUE at the end, it served me well for over 6 years, so I'm pretty much sold by MSI.
This is what I am looking at right now, but I would like to know if there are known issues with the compatibility/functionality of these components:
-MSI Z87 MPower MAX
-Intel i7-4770K CPU
-Corsair Vengeance 16G (2x8G) RAM - (I may bump this to 32G)
-MSI GeForce GTX 760 2G DDR5 Video
-UltraX4 Extreme PSU
-Win7 Ulitmate 64Bit
I will also be getting another smaller (500GB) HD to use just for the OS and my VMWare items in addition to the 1.5T and 1T drives I have now.
Another question I have is that the CPU comes with a stock fan. Will this be sufficient or should I be looking at something else?
And being that my budget is around $1000 - $1200, is there something better you can recommend that will match the performance of what I selected?
Thank you

For your needs, I see no reason for 32GB of RAM. You don't want to mix two kits anyway even if they have the exact same part numbers. They may be from different batches or even have different chips on them. On my Z87, I am only using 8GB of RAM and having no problems.
Great choice on that CPU cooler! All my rigs have 9900's on them. They do outstanding and have helped me attain some impressive OC's using them.
The Corsair HX850W is what I use as well. Excellent PSU!
Probably one port is DVI-s and the other is DVI-d? The BIOS will probably recognize the discrete card is installed and set the graphics automatically to PEG mode.
A word of caution though. The GTX 760 may need a Legacy VBIOS to work right out of the box. If that happens, a UEFI/BIOS update may help or the VBIOS will need to be flashed. The onboard graphics can be used in the meantime to get the flashing done and the GTX 760 taken care of if it needs it. That is why some of us recommended the GTX 6xx series. They usually don't have any problems out of the box.

New system will not boot up.

I am in the process of building a new system and it will not boot to the post. The power gets to the cpu fan and case fan for about 5 seconds then shguts off. I have to clear cmos to get the same response. Please help, I have pulled everything from the case and tried to boot with just the cpu and memory. Same result.

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Originally posted by FastEddie
The Antec Bug involves their True Power line of psu's and involves a problem with the +5vsb. It's caused quite a few problems with many different boards, from stability issues, to boot issues, to freezing in cmos setup issues. Here's a couple links:
Antec Problems with Neo 2 Platinum
Antec RMA
Read these through.
Would be nice if you guys had different psu's to try.
I recently had the "reboot loop during startup" problem with an Abit AI7 and the Antec TruePower 480. However, the problem didn't start to occur until several months after it was new. After replacing the PS with a 430 amp Enermax the problem went away.

PT880 New system won't boot to any drive

I am putting together a new system:
Case: Aspire X-Superalien
Power Supply: 500w (came w/case) which says:
AC INPUT: 115V/230V~ 10/5A 50-60HZ
DC OUTPUT: +3.3V +5V +12V -5V -12V +5VSB
28A 30A 34A 0.3A 0.8A 2.0A
+5V +3.3V COMBINED LOAD: 200W
+12V +5V +3.3V COMBINED LOAD: 480W
TOTAL POWER: 500W
(no idea what all that means, but you guys seem to)
The PS also has 2 blue 80 mm lighted fans
Motherboard: PT880 NEO LSR
Processor: Intel P4 2.8 GHZ 800MHZ bus 1MB L2 cache (HT) Prescott
Video Card: GeForce 2 MX400
Disk Drives: Western Digital 200GB hard drive (formatted on another computer,
no OS yet)
LiteOn DVD rewritable drive
Mitsumi 3.5 in. floppy drive
Operating System: none yet, will use Windows XP as soon as I can get to my
drives.
I can get to my BIOS. All my drives appear in BIOS and show up as the correct slave, master settings. I have disabled all the SATA RAID stuff. When I try to boot up, it does a memory test, lists all my drives and stuff...then freezes. I have tried changing the boot up order of my drives into all possible orders. The four lights on the back give me different messages each time. Nothing consistent there. What could be keeping me from booting to my drives?

Your PSU looks to be quite capable of handling a Prescott, so as Raidahs said, all you need is the BIOS flash. I asked you for your rail by rail currents in another post, but as I see them here, never mind. Unfortunately, since Intel kept making changes to the Prescott, the earliest BIOS that will run the Prescott for this board is v1.4. The boards are shipped with v1.1, which is rather aggravating. If you don't have access to a Northwood chip (P4 with 'C' after it's speed, ie. 2.8C), I would suggest contacting either MSI or whoever you purchased your board from, and ask them to update your BIOS. Do not let them talk you into paying for this service, as the board's packaging plainly states that it is designed for the Prescott, despite the fact that it does not support it out of the box.
If you have any problems, just let us know. Heck, keep us posted no matter what happens

Question About Northbridge fan

First, my system specs:
Intel Pentium 4 Prescott 2.8GHz HTT w/ 800MHz FSB
Thermaltake Spark 7+ Xaser Edition A1715 CPU Cooler
MSI 865PE Neo2-PFISR motherboard (BIOS ver. 3.8)
2x512MB Kingston PC3200 DDR SDRAM @ 400MHz
Maxtor 6Y120M0 120GB HDD 7200RPM SATA150 8MB cache
Built-by-ATI Radeon 9800 Pro @ XT 128MB DDR 256-bit @ 415/744 (Catalyst 4.12)
Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer Revision 3
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum
Sony DDU1612 40x/16x DVD-ROM
Sony CRX230ED 52x/32x CD-RW
Enermax Noisetaker EG475P 470W PSU(+3.3V = 34A, +5V = 40A, +12V = 33A)
Windows XP Pro SP2
Even though on MSI's website the picture for the PFISR doesn't have a northbridge fan, mine does. So, is there a reason why this thing is so bloody loud? It sounds like a piece of plastic is just barely sticking up into the fans, creating a rattling sound. If I turn my CPU fan speed down to a moderate speed, the NB fan is the loudest thing in my case, and I have five 80mm case fans and two PSU fans going full speed.
Does my motherboard have fan control for this fan? Is it possible to turn the speed down some? What if it I just remove the damned thing altogether? I don't really see the point of having the fan there anyway, since both it and the heatsink are so small that they can't really be moving that much heat. How hot does the northbridge usually get? Is it possible to overclock the northbridge and see any performance gain?

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Originally posted by Frankenputer
You need to put a shrotcut to the Speedfan.exe file into the startup folder, usually C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup . Right click on the speedfan.exe file, usually found C:\Program Files\SpeedFan, choose create shortcut. A shortcut will be created in that folder, right-click on the shortcut and choose cut, navigate to the startup folder, usually C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup, and paste the shortcut into that folder. If you have a shortcut already on the desktop you could right click on that, choose copy and paste that shortcut into the startup folder. Speedfan will now startup with windows.
Thanks, that worked perfectly.
And I configured Speedfan to only run the NB fan at 75%, and it is now much quieter.

Time Machine Issue with new system board.

OK MAC Fans here is an issue that I discovered with Time Machine (TM).
First I have a 17” MacBookPro that has two 1TB external HDs and a 30” monitor attached to it.
Something happened to my system and the system board had to be replaced.
The Mac was sent to TX and a new system board was put in it and the very latest OS (10.5.2) was installed on the hard drive.
The Apple store added my profile so you think everything would be good?
Wrong!
None of my applications made it through.
But I was thinking let just use Time Machine to restore them. WRONG in a way.
The first thing I did when I got home was set up TM. I pointed TM to the external HD that has all of the previous backup files and TM wanted to backup the system. During the backup I notice that TM created a new directory for the backup files.
The name of the directory was the name of my MAC. The old directory was also the name of my MAC but with the new OS software release it was stated that you could not use any special characters when naming your MAC or TM may not recognize your backup files (there is a note on this under support).
The new name is FirstnameLastnameMacBookPro17 the old name was Firstname Lastname’s MacBookPro 17”. TM created a new directory named FirstnameLastnameMacBookPro17 and this was the only files that are visible in TM.
I deleted the new directory and renamed my MAC back to the old name and TM created a NEW directory with the old name. Now there were 2 directories with the same “old” name. I can not get TM to use the old directory and display the old backup files.
I was able to drag and drop the files and applications I needed from the previous backup folders back to where I needed them to be so all is not lost but I can not restore files from TM.
Also I renamed my MAC back to FirstnameLastnameMacBookPro17 and TM automatically changed the name of the new directory to the new name.
I tried to drag old backup folders from the old TM directory to the new TM directory but received an error that the files can not be modified.
The only thing that I can think is that when the system board was replaced TM got confused and did not recognize it as the same system. So now I am starting my backup history all over again. The old backup files are good, the only thing is that I have to drag and drop items I want from those folders to the location I want. I can not use the old backup files in TM.
Dose any one have a magic pill (red or blue) I can take to make the old files visible in TM?

I decided not to worry about the syncing my TM. I was just at the Apple store and they have decided to replace my MacBookPro. I am going to start my backups on the new system all over again. I know I can drag and drop files that I want from the old files to the new system if I want and that will be go enough.

Going to build a new system, is this gonna work ?

I'm going to build a new system with a msi k8n neo4 platinum motherboard,
but i'm not sure, that all the parts i have chosen will work with this motherboard.
So if you can help me.. u huge thanx !
AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 2.2Ghz, 512Kb cache,S-939,Box
Chieftec Mesh Long MidiTower, Zw/Zlv (LCX-01B-B-SL)
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS, oem
Kingston Dual-Channel 1Gb Kit, 2x512Mb, PC3200 (KVR400X64C3AK2/1G)
Lite-On DVD-Rom 16x48x IDE black, oem
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, S939, nForce4, ATX
Maxtor DiamondMax 10, 200Gb, 7200rpm, 8Mb SATA150 (2x)
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9, 120Gb,7200rpm,8M,SATA150 (1x)
NEC 3.5" Floppy Diskdrive 1.44Mb black
Zalman CNPS7700-Cu CPU Cooler S478/775/754/939
Papst Fan 4412FGL(E) 12x12cm, 1600rpm
XFX GeForce 6600 GT 128Mb,2xDVI, TVo,PCI-E, Retail
and i wanted one of these power supply's
Tagan TG480 Silent Power Supply 480 Watt
Enermax EG495AX-VE SFMA 485W Noisetaker PSU,ATX2.0

The chip works great with the board. The Tagan 480W PSU also works great with it.
I know the Zalman 7700 cpu cooler is bigger so may block the first two ram slots as it's tight with a 7000.
The rest of the hardware looks great though I know there's threads on choosing the right ram for the neo 4 in the stickies so check that out. Also the maxtor D-Max 10 might cause a problem not sure. I know people with the Neo 2 had problems.
Good Luck

MS 875P Neo System Bd Fan replacement...

Does anyone know where one can purchase the MSI 33mm system replacement fan...it doesn't have to be the Fancy Silver one that came w/ the board...thanks for any ideas...

Read this: >> Can anyone recommend me a Northbridge fan replacement? <<

P4N Diamond - Northbridge Fan

Since getting my P4N board (September 2005), the Northbridge Fan has been really noisy. Lately, it has stopped turning at certain times - either while the PC is in use (causing it to shut down) or on startup.
When the problem happens on startup, I have to give it a little push to get started.
What I want to know is - can I replace the fan? If so, how do I get it off.
Also, please could someone recommend a fan that will provide the same level of cooling, but also be quiter. I would also like to know the spec of the fan - can't find details anywhere.
I would have liked to put this post on the Diamond VIP Forum, but can't find a link to the URL for this??
Many thanks.

I have temporarily put this fan on (keeping the msi heatsink).
http://www.akasa.com.tw/akasa_english/spec_page/fans/spec_dfs401012m.htm
It is spinning at up to 6250rpm, but is slightly quieter than the original msi fan.
Potential problems/issues...
- it is supposed to have a speed of 5400rpm, so I wondering if it being reported at up to 6250rpm is an issue?
- the northbridge is now 47C rather than 45C at idle
- the new fan has 7 blades, the original had 9, so it's looking like the original fan was more efficient at cooling the northbridge chip
I also have the zalman heatsink and will likely replace the msi heatsink with this and use no fan, but wanted to check whether anyone has done this successfully, while keeping a standard intel cpu fan in place.
While I have a couple of minor reservations about the new fan, it does work, whereas the msi fan was pretty much knackered and completely unreliable. I could just replace the msi fan with another msi fan but I would expect that eventually the replacement msi fan would go the same way as the old one?
Any and all advice or suggestions would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Nick

Northbridge fan speed

I just bought a MSI K8N Neo3 nForce 4 mainboard. I have updated the bios to the latest version. Activated cool and quiet, and the smart cpu fan control. When I enter the bios the northbridge fan works at around 7500 rpm! And make so much noise. Can this be correct. Can I somehowe slow it down? It also seem like the cpu fan goes to fast, over 3000, the temperature on the cpu is 30 degrees. It's a AMD semperon 2800+. Somebody help me?

It's been posted many times already.
You could get the zalman fanmate2 to lower the rpm of the NB fan.
It will go as low as 2800rpm,but keeping it around 5400rpm should do the job just fine.
I run it around 5000rpm(jumps up and down between 5000 and 5400) and also I've ordered a replacement fan from msi in the netherlands,it's on the way free of charge.
I did this because now I've greased the standard fan several times already because of the grinding noise it sometimes produces,even at 5400rpm.
Also speed seems to drop down occasionally,so for now I'm fine,but the replacement fan will come in handy since this is leading to a dead end.
This new fan seems to run at approx 5400rpm btw.
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Can I somehowe slow it down? It also seem like the cpu fan goes to fast, over 3000, the temperature on the cpu is 30 degrees.
This seems in order.If you can't lower the cpu fan speed you might need a bios update or cpu driver update.
Or your cpu isn't supported by the cool&quiet chip.

New system/Northbridge fan

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