New Tiger install: Very slow start up

Greetings.
I just installed my Tiger update from Panther on my dual 450 G4, 1 GB...and the computer takes about 5 minutes from boing to operational. Is that normal? Is there any way I can speed up the start up and operation? I was told that Tiger would run faster on my computer, but the opposite is true.
Thanks.

Hello again, I gave you the instructions for setting the Pram back to default. This is a harmless, non-invasive procedure. Running disk permissions I gave you instructions for. If you want to repair your hard drive it is best done with the install disk. After installing the disk, hold down the C key until the second chime and Utilities will be in your menu bar. Repair hard drive, if it comes back with a problem, keep doing it until it is repaired. There are 3rd part applications that can remove old folders, caches, previous iTune libraries etc. TinkerTool, OnyX, are both good, read about them at Apple's doownload site, with a search in the window you will find them. I use OnyX and like it. There is a good article called 52 ways to speed up your OSx, (Google it), you will find some useful information there.
Ray

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                    Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 999,35 GB (548 GB free)
                    Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
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                    Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
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          HP Deskjet D2300 series
          Western Digital Ext HDD 1021 2 TB
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                    Archive (disk2s2) /Volumes/Archive: 900,26 GB (490,8 GB free)
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                    iTunes (disk1s2) <not mounted>: 1,1 TB
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          Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9
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          1Password: Version: 4.1.0
Audio Plug-ins:
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          AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9
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                    Microsoft Graph:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Microsoft Database Utility:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Microsoft Office Reminders:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Microsoft Upload Center:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    My Day:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    SyncServicesAgent:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Open XML for Excel:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Microsoft Alerts Daemon:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Microsoft Database Daemon:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
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                    Microsoft Clip Gallery:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
          /Applications/Microsoft Office 2011
                    Microsoft PowerPoint:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Microsoft Excel:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Microsoft Outlook:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
                    Microsoft Word:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
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                    /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Common/dynamiclink/CS6/dynamiclinkmanager.app
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                    /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Common/dynamiclinkmediaserver/1.0/dynamiclinkmediaserver.app
Time Machine:
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          Mobile backups: OFF
          Auto backup: YES
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                    Total size: 838.16 GB
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Top Processes by CPU:
               3%          iMovie
               3%          PhotoStreamAgent
               3%          iPhoto
               1%          iTunes
               1%          WindowServer
Top Processes by Memory:
          901 MB          iMovie
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          483 MB          iPhoto
          442 MB          iTunes
          295 MB          com.apple.MediaLibraryService
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My iMac is so slow to boot or start up. It takes about an 1-2 hours. It has very slow and very delayed response when doing tasks. I'm not sure what happened.
I have tried safe mode but it has not worked. I tried the disk utility but it was saying that my DVD (possibly because it is for snow leopard) is outdated. I think I updated to Lion.
Do you have any suggestions? I will try any other tricks. Do you recommend to back up before doing repair etc.?
thanks in advance!!

Tried to reset the RAM but did not get through. It went to disk utility again. Tried repair but it still saying to back up and restore files. Maybe the HD has been toasted. =(...
It says: Invalid key lenght. Volume Mac HD could not be verifried completely.. then it says Error: disk utilityu can't repair close back disk out, restoere etc..
In disk utillity as well, Mac OS X base system appeared- I dont know the purpose of this. It has some files on it. Dont know whether to restore it or what?..Mac HD seems like the it's empty..
Thanks again guys...It feels like I'm in a maze..

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