New Time Capsule, new MacBook, old Airport Express and Airtunes

I intend to buy a new MacBook and a Time Capsule, and I still have an old Airport Express, without 802.11n. I intend to use this Airport Express just for Airtunes, maybe to connect to a printer as well.
Now I was wondering, even though the Time Capsule is capable of using the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands simultaneously, the MacBook is only capable of using one band, right? So if I use Airtunes to stream music to my Airport Express, my MacBook would be forced to use the 2.4GHz band, thus slower Time Machine backups etcetera. Is this assumption correct?
Or will my MacBook send the Airtunes signal over the 5GHz band to the Time Capsule, which will send the signal over the 2.4GHz band to the Airport Express, thus not slowing down any Time Machine backups?

Martijn wrote:
Now I was wondering, even though the Time Capsule is capable of using the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands simultaneously, the MacBook is only capable of using one band, right? So if I use Airtunes to stream music to my Airport Express, my MacBook would be forced to use the 2.4GHz band, thus slower Time Machine backups etcetera. Is this assumption correct?
I don't think so.
Or will my MacBook send the Airtunes signal over the 5GHz band to the Time Capsule, which will send the signal over the 2.4GHz band to the Airport Express, thus not slowing down any Time Machine backups?
Yes I think this is correct. At least it seems to me that this is the purpose of having simultaneous dual-band. The time Capsule can send or receive on both bands at the same time, or receive on one band and then send on the other.

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Thanks for the additional information.
Unfortunately, the AirPort Utility application in the Lion and Mountain Lion operating systems, which is used to configure the new Time Capsule does not support the older versions of the products that you have.
Even if it did, there are no settings on the older AirPorts to "Extend a wireless network", so they are not compatible with the new Time Capsule if you intend to extend the network only using wireless connections.
If you have the ability to connect each AirPort to the Time Capsule using a permanent wired Ethernet cable connection, it might be possible to use a complicated workaround to install an older version of AirPort Utility to configure the older AirPorts to work with the new Time Capsule.
If you have another Mac there that is using the Leopard or Snow Leoapard operating system, things would likely be simpler. I have not done this type of procedure to mix a new Time Capsule with older AirPorts, so I would not be able to say whether this would work or not.

New Time Capsule does not see Airport express

Hi
We purchased A new Time Capsule but are not able to get the existing Airport Expresses to work with it. I tried looking for the AE with AIrport Utility and cant see them.
Any idea how to get these to work with our new Time Capsule 3 TB? My Airpot Utility is Version 6.2
Thanks
Jenny

I've reset one of them. no luck
Suggest that you try the following if you have not already done so.
Power down the AirPort Express (AX) for a few moments
Hold in the reset button and keep holding it in for 10-12 seconds while you plug the AX back in to power
Release the reset button and allow 40-45 seconds for the AX to restart to a slow, blinking amber light
Move the AX near your Time Capsule and computer
Temporarily, connect a spare Ethernet cable from your computer to the AX
Open AirPort Utility to configure the AX
If you do not have a spare Ethernet cable handy, the AX is broadcasting a wireless signal with a name like Apple Network xxxxxx. You must first connect to this network from your computer.
Then, open AirPort Utility. You may be asked to "switch" networks so that AirPort Utility can connect
If you use the recommended Ethernet cable method, you can disconnect the Ethernet cable once the AX has been Updated. Then, move the AX to the desired location.
Configure the second AX like you did the first.
If you have the older "b/g" version of the Express devices, unfortunately you will need to configure the Time Capsule and Express devices to Participate in a WDS network if you need to enable the Ethernet ports on the AX devices.
This will result in the Time Capsule being changed to a "g" wireless router, since WDS will only operate at "g" wireless speeds.

I have a new time capsule (replace my old time capsule). I want to erase my old one. My computer does not see the old one anymore, how do I connect it (the old TC is not connected to modem)

I have a new time capsule (replace my old time capsule). I want to erase my old one. My computer does not see the old one anymore, how do I connect it (the old TC is not connected to modem). I want to erase it and then use it as either a second hard drive (sired/sirelesly?) or as a hard drive/bridge. So,
1. why doesn't my cmputer see the old TC
2 once i have solved that, how do I erase the old one
3. Can I use the old one as a supplemental hard drive
     a. wired?
     b. wirelessly?
4. Can I use the old one as a range extender?
I know .. a lot of questions but I would appreciate any help.
Thanks

sgetraer wrote:
I have a new time capsule (replace my old time capsule). I want to erase my old one. My computer does not see the old one anymore, how do I connect it (the old TC is not connected to modem). I want to erase it and then use it as either a second hard drive (sired/sirelesly?) or as a hard drive/bridge. So,
1. why doesn't my cmputer see the old TC
2 once i have solved that, how do I erase the old one
3. Can I use the old one as a supplemental hard drive
     a. wired?
     b. wirelessly?
4. Can I use the old one as a range extender?
I know .. a lot of questions but I would appreciate any help.
Thanks
1. Because it is either the same IP as the new one or hidden by being plugged in as a second router.
To access it, isolate one computer from the existing network and plug it directly by ethernet to a lan port of the TC. Use the erase function in the TC to remove all the content of the hard disk.
Then go to the internet tab, connection sharing and select off bridged. You can then reconnect the TC to the network.. and the computer as well. The TC will act as bridged device.. getting IP from the main router and should then appear correctly in Airport utility.
2. I covered in 1. But you just go in airport utility manual setup. disk, and you will see the erase function. You can also set it to bridge and leave the erase until you put it back in the network.. but be careful you erase the right one.
3. You can use the old TC via wired or wireless.. although I would always stick to wired connection if possible. Speed on wireless is 10x worse than wired.
Also note the reliability goes down dramatically after 2 years.. a series 1 3 years old or more is ebay fodder unless you want to repair it. Do not trust vital data to it.. when it dies you will have issues recovering it.
4. Yes, all apple routers will function as wireless extenders. when you do that the ethernet ports turn off so it becomes a purely wireless device.. strange apple decision on what you want to use your TC for.

Just did firm ware update on time capsule an now my airport express not connected do to air port utilities doesn't support base station ??

just did firm ware update on time capsule an now my airport express not connected do to air port utilities doesn't support base station ?

mickair wrote:
I have been experiencing some networking problems
Welcome to Apple's discussion groups.
I have the latest Time Capsule ("TC"), an old Airport Extreme Base Station ("AEBS") bought in 2007 and 2 Airport Expresses, one bought in 3 months ago ("AE-Alpha") and the other bought back in 2007 ("AE-Beta"). All of them have been updated with the latest firmware.
Based on those dates, the AirPort Extreme is probably flat (as opposed to dome-shaped), making it 802.11n-capable. The Newer AirPort Express is probably an 802.11n-capable model A1264, while the older one is probably a model A1084 or A1088.
I use {the TC's} DHCP function ... to avoid unauthorized use.
This a discussion for another thread, but that's not what DHCP is for.
The wireless setting for it is to participate as WDS Main, but after reading various posts, it seems WDS is a bad idea
With that older AirPort Express you're stuck with WDS unless you decide to replace it with a newer model.
The AEBS is currently setup as being a WDS Relay at the moment
Why a relay? That's only needed if there's another base station "beyond" it that is configured to depend on it.
Since the AEBS is connected to the TC via Ethernet, you should probably configure it as a "roaming network":
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2273124
{The AE-Alpha} connects fine as WDS remote at the moment
I don't have any experience with mixed WDS and non-WDS networks, but since it's 802.11n-capable, you may be able to configure it to "extend" the network of the TC rather than as WDS. Look for a setting on the TC to "Allow this network to be extended".
Physical location:
AEBS in one end, TC and AE-Alpha in the middle while AE-Beta on the other end.
A device such as "AE-Beta" that's supposed to extend a network shouldn't be "at the end" but should be half way between the central base station and the clients that need an extended network.

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New time capsule+new airport express=daily dropped connections

I have a new 2 TB Time Capsule and a new Airport Express that I puchased to update my old set-up of an Airport Express and Airport Extreme.
I have the TC set-up as the primary base station in the back of the house and the airport express set-up to extend the network in the front of the house. I was getting constant disconnects up front for the first several days so I finally exchanged the new AX for another one thinking maybe the first one was faulty. I reset the TC back to factory defaults for good measure and re-set up my network the same way with the new AX.
Two days with no disconnects, thought it was fixed, and then it started again...no joy. Not as often as with the first AX, but still it happens 2-3 times a day and always up in the front of the house while we're on our MacBook Pro or MacBook Air. When this happens both the AX and the TC have green lights and full bars of connectivity show in the menu bar, but yet no internet access. The only way to reconnect is to restart the AX. I have noticed too, that when this happens, the Airport Utility does not show the TC at all...even though it's light is fully green and it should be there, it just shows the AX until I restart and then both show up again.
I've tried changing the channel from automatic to a specific channel but this really doesn't change things much. Now I'm starting to wonder if something is awry with the TC. I've also noticed that it sometimes fails to back up because it can't find a connection to my iMac which is right next to it in the back of the house.
So far this upgrade has been more of a downgrade. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Just an update and still seeking some advice for this situation...anybody?
I tried re-setting both TC and AX to factory settings and re-configuring. Still get at least 3-4 dropped connections up front on a daily basis; however, TC has been connecting successfully and backing up my iMac, so at least that seems to be ok.
Still the same situation with the TC not showing up in Airport Utility every time the network connection drops happen...just the AX is seen until I finally have to restart the AX and then both can be viewed in Airport Utility and the internet connection is restored. Sometimes I can restore connection by simply toggling my airport access on and off in the menu bar of my MacBook Pro, but more often then not, I have to restart the AX itself to get back online.
Is it possible that this could be an issue with the TC? Somehow it might be dropping the connection to the AX? I can still exchange it for another if this may be the case. I'm already on my second AX thinking that the Express was the problem initially.
So far, nothing seems to help the situation. About the only thing that I haven't done is configure the AX to just join the network rather than extend it...but that would be defeating the purpose of why I bought it in the first place (to stream iTunes and extend network).
I never had issues with my old set-up, but then I had it configured as a WDS because I didn't have the option to "extend" the network as it was an older AX and Airport Express.

Extended Time Capsule WiFi network using Airport Express - Result: SLOW internet

Hi everyone,
I have a little issue with my wireless internet.
Currently I have a 2Mbps down and 256Kbps up internet home. My ISP modem is connected directly to my Time Capsule (TC) and I don't have any problem when using the WiFi from the Time Capsule.
Recently, I wanted to extend my TC WiFi Range and bought an Airport Express to do that job. I've configured everything using the default/recommended settings.
The WiFi range was correctly extended but the problem is now, when I'm using Internet in the extended zone; it is REALLY slow!! I have done some speed tests in the extended zone with different devices (iPad, iPhone, PC, Mac...), and as result I have in average 128Kbps down and 50Kbps up!! You can imagine how this is annoying!
I tried to see the configurations of the Time Capsule and the AirPort Express and I didn't find anything that could explain that.
So, could someone please help me to fix that problem?
Thank you all in advance,
Mathieu
P.S.: FYI, The radio mode used for the wifi is 802.11n (802.11b/g compatible).

I'm not sure I necessarily agree at this point, as the two walls could cause significant Wi-Fi interference to prevent the extended network to perform well beyond the room the TC is in.
One way to quickly determine this is to make a Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR) calculation at the location of the AXn. SNR (in dB) = Signal (in dBm) - Noise (in dBm) and it represents the signal quality at that location from the router providing the wireless network.
To get an accurate picture, you will want to temporarily power-down the AXn since we only want to calculate the SNR for the TC at the location of the AXn.
You can get the Signal and Noise values directly from your Mac. Of course, it would be easier if your Mac is a laptop version, so I will assume at this point that it is.
While placing your Mac laptop near the AXn, open up the System Profiler. (ref: Apple icon in the menu bar > About This Mac > More info ... > Contents > Network > AirPort Interfaces > en1 > Current Network Information > Find your wireless network > Signal / Noise)
A SNR of 25+ dB would be desirable. For HD streaming performance, you will want an SNR of 35+ dB. Please post back your results.

Airport Extreme (1354) + Old Airport Express for AirTunes Only

I have the new Airport Extreme released in October 2009 (A1354), and also an old Airport Express released way back in 2004. I don't need to extend my network because I live in a relatively small apartment. Instead, I'd like to use the Airport Express purely for AirTunes. Is this possible without degrading the speed of the WiFi network? Thank you.

technolawyer wrote:
I have the new Airport Extreme released in October 2009 (A1354), and also an old Airport Express released way back in 2004. I don't need to extend my network because I live in a relatively small apartment. Instead, I'd like to use the Airport Express purely for AirTunes. Is this possible without degrading the speed of the WiFi network?
set up the old express to join the network provided by the new extreme.
is your extreme a +sim dual band+ type ? if so, you will not notice any degradation in speed. wireless-n capable clients will access the 5 GHz and b/g-clients the 2.4 GHz bands respectively.

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How can i configure an old airport express on mavericks Apple have stopped supporting them, very poor show!!

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Bob,
This is really simple so no instructions are necessary.
Plug in the new Express when you get it and have it "Join the existing network"...
Give the iTunes Music section a name like "Front Room Stereo" and that's it...
Plug the stereo into the Express and select it in iTunes for playing music.
Joseph Kriz
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Want to know about the AirPort Express and AirTunes

I have been contemplating purchasing an AirPort Express to stream music from my bedroom into the entertainment room in a 4 bedroom apartment. I have a wireless G D-link router which could be better but its not going to get better any time soon. As far as AirTunes goes, i have been researching it but still have questions on how it works exactly. Also, is it possible to play music through the speakers that are currently hooked up to my computer and through the stero in my living room simulaneously with this device.

So i have the airport express and i want to use internet at the same time as streaming my music to my stereo. I also have a router that i normally use for internet. My problem is, how do i use them at the same time because the airport run's or the router runs not both. I tried running a ethernet cord from the router to the airport express, and i can now recieve internet and stream music, but i want to be able to use my router instead of the express. also if i can't and have to go through the express, can i password protect the internet connection because i have no idea how to use settings for this device?

Time Capsule, MacBook Air, Airport Express, and my stereo: where the twain shall meet?

The MBA is wonderful, but, as we all know, not very capacious. My compromise is to store my iTunes media folder on an external hard drive, meaning that I can't play music unless the external is plugged in. When I want to play music on my stereo, I plug the stereo into my MBA, which is itself plugged into the external. Not very elegant!
I've thought of a potential solution, but not sure whether it's feasible.
Would I be able to use the Time Capsule as an external HDD—leave all my whole iTunes library on there and stream it wirelessly to my MBA without incident?
If so, could I then "re-stream" the music to an Airport Express, which would be plugged into the stereo?
I actually have the Express already, but it's plugged into the modem, which is not in the same room as the stereo. So, in theory, all I'd have to do is buy a Time Capsule, transfer my music to it, point iTunes to the new media library, plug the TC into my modem, set the Express to extend the TC's network, plug the TC into my stereo, and. . . voila, I can bring my MBA anywhere and still play any of my music through my stereo. And I'd also have a nifty 2 TB wireless external, certain to last me a very long time.
That's the theory anyway! Would it actually work? Is there a better solution? Thanks!

Yes you could use your TC HD for doing this however if you are already using the drive as a backup for Time Machine then doing so would be pretty foolish. All HD's eventually fail, so if you store any data on the TC's HD and also using it for Time Machine and the drive crashes then you will have lost not only your data but it's backup which totally defeats the idea of backing up. IMHO store your music (photo & movie) libraries on another physical EHD and yes a wireless one would be fine.

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