New time machine WDS frustration

I bought a new time machine (dual channel) and planned on using my old APExtreme downstairs to pick up the speed to n. I also have an old g APExpress that my printer is hooked up to. Plugged in the TM and set up no problem, grabbed the express and did the setup no problem. The Extreme on the other hand will not set-up. If I try to put the TM in WDS mode which is the only way I can get the AE to connect, the TM sits green with the amber blink every minute or so until it finally quits and says WDS fail no other apple devices available. The correct MAC addresses are put in all three, Main(TM) and both the remote addresses in the Main.
I've tried to do everything the Apple way and the extreme will not connect at all, when I manually set up a WDS everything connects for about 10 minutes until the TM fails and restarts in normal mode.
HELP!!

Welcome to the discussions!
Can you clarify if your old AirPort Extreme is capable of wireless "n" speeds?
If it is, would you consider a setup using your Time Capsule and Extreme that would "extend a wireless network" rather than create a WDS?
The reason I ask is that with a WDS setup using the Time Capsule, Airport Extreme and your "g" Express, you may not be aware that this would cut the bandwidth of your wireless network by 75%. That is a tremendous loss in performance.
The "extend a wireless network" setup would utilize only your Time Capsule and the Extreme (providing that it is "n" capable). This would provide faster speeds and far better performance than the WDS arrangement. Post back if you are interested.

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    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelFramebufferAzul 8.1.8
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.BootCache 35
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleSDXC 1.4.0
    com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet 3.6.9b9
    com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4360 800.21.45
    com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.9.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBXHCI 650.4.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.7
    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 153
    com.apple.security.quarantine 3
    com.apple.security.SecureRemotePassword 1.0
    com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleMultitouchDriver 245.13
    com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.7
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 3.6.0
    com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 2.5.3fc1
    com.apple.vecLib.kext 1.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.9.4fc11
    com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.14
    com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily 98.7.1
    com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAGK100Hal 8.1.8
    com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAResman 8.1.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport 4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.0.4
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.11d1
    com.apple.driver.X86PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.6d1
    com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 5.5.1d27
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 2.5.3fc1
    com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 2.5.3fc1
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.12d1
    com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 91
    com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.3.6
    com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily2 98.7.1
    com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl 3.4.12
    com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.3.6
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltEDMSink 1.2.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHIDKeyboard 170.15
    com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard 170.15
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 650.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 650.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPOutAdapter 2.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPInAdapter 2.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPAdapterFamily 2.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltPCIDownAdapter 1.4.0
    com.apple.driver.CoreStorage 380
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltNHI 1.9.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOThunderboltFamily 2.8.5
    com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController 1.0.3b3
    com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 600.34
    com.apple.driver.mDNSOffloadUserClient 1.0.1b4
    com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 3.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.6.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 2.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
    com.apple.security.sandbox 278.10
    com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 7
    com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore 2
    com.apple.driver.DiskImages 371.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.9
    com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily 21
    com.apple.driver.AppleFDEKeyStore 28.30
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4
    com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0
    com.apple.kec.pthread 1
    Model: iMac14,2, BootROM IM142.0118.B00, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 3.5 GHz, 32
    GB, SMC 2.15f2
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M, PCIe, 2048 MB
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 8 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x02FE,
    0x45424A3831554738454655352D474E4C2D46
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 8 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x02FE,
    0x45424A3831554738454655352D474E4C2D46
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM1, 8 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x02FE,
    0x45424A3831554738454655352D474E4C2D46
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 8 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x02FE,
    0x45424A3831554738454655352D474E4C2D46
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x111), Broadcom
    BCM43xx 1.0 (6.30.223.154.45)
    Bluetooth: Version 4.2.0f6 12982, 3 services, 23 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
    Serial ATA Device: APPLE HDD ST3000DM001, 3 TB
    USB Device: BRCM20702 Hub
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
    USB Device: Keyboard Hub
    USB Device: Apple Keyboard
    USB Device: USB 2.0 Hub
    Thunderbolt Bus: iMac, Apple Inc., 23.10
    Thu Dec 12 14:47:25 2013
    panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff800c0dc19e): Kernel trap at 0xffffff800c050887, type 14=page
    fault, registers:
    CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0x0000000000000010, CR3: 0x00000004d5da0044,
    CR4: 0x00000000001606e0
    RAX: 0x05352189d74867f9, RBX: 0x0000000000000000, RCX: 0xffffff800c6cb940,
    RDX: 0xffffff800c6cb940
    RSP: 0xffffff839c5cbce0, RBP: 0xffffff839c5cbd10, RSI: 0xffffff804b352f90, RDI:
    0xffffff8049d243c0
    R8: 0x0000000000000000, R9: 0xffffff804e037060, R10: 0x00000000000003ff, R11:
    0xffffffffffffffff
    R12: 0xffffff804b352fb8, R13: 0x0000000000000000, R14: 0xffffff804b352f90, R15:
    0xffffff8049d243c0
    RFL: 0x0000000000010282, RIP: 0xffffff800c050887, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS:
    0x0000000000000010
    Fault CR2: 0x0000000000000010, Error code: 0x0000000000000002, Fault CPU: 0x2
    Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff839c5cb970 : 0xffffff800c022f69
    0xffffff839c5cb9f0 : 0xffffff800c0dc19e
    0xffffff839c5cbbc0 : 0xffffff800c0f3606
    0xffffff839c5cbbe0 : 0xffffff800c050887
    0xffffff839c5cbd10 : 0xffffff800c05151a
    0xffffff839c5cbdf0 : 0xffffff7f8c94ab56
    0xffffff839c5cbe30 : 0xffffff7f8c94a912
    0xffffff839c5cbe50 : 0xffffff7f8c94a174
    0xffffff839c5cbed0 : 0xffffff7f8c949e0b
    0xffffff839c5cbf20 : 0xffffff800c432795
    0xffffff839c5cbf50 : 0xffffff800c43de23
    0xffffff839c5cbfb0 : 0xffffff800c0f3e06
    Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
    com.apple.kec.pthread(1.0)[619F6A5D-FFA2-3B59-9993-
    958FD7154B83]@0xffffff7f8c945000->0xffffff7f8c94ffff
    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: firefox
    Mac OS version:
    13A1900
    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 13.0.0: Thu Sep 19 22:22:27 PDT 2013; root:xnu-
    2422.1.72~6/RELEASE_X86_64
    Kernel UUID: 1D9369E3-D0A5-31B6-8D16-BFFBBB390393
    Kernel slide: 0x000000000be00000
    Kernel text base: 0xffffff800c000000
    System model name: iMac14,2 (Mac-27ADBB7B4CEE8E61)
    System uptime in nanoseconds: 103232099130639
    last loaded kext at 153638738047: com.apple.filesystems.afpfs 11.0 (addr
    0xffffff7f8e5dc000, size 348160)
    last unloaded kext at 140975945768: com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 3.0.1
    (addr 0xffffff7f8e4d4000, size 8192)
    loaded kexts:
    com.apple.filesystems.afpfs 11.0
    com.apple.nke.asp-tcp 8.0.0
    com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothMultitouch 80.14
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.5d0
    com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.60
    com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.14.11
    com.apple.driver.ApplePlatformEnabler 2.0.9d1
    com.apple.driver.X86PlatformShim 1.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 124
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 2.5.3fc1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.5.13
    com.apple.GeForce 8.1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 2.5.3fc1
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD5000Graphics 8.1.8
    com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport 4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.3.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.4d1
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelFramebufferAzul 8.1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.1.12
    com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWAccess 1
    com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.7.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltIP 1.0.10
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.BootCache 35
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleSDXC 1.4.0
    com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet 3.6.9b9
    com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4360 800.21.45
    com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.9.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBXHCI 650.4.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.7
    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 153
    com.apple.security.quarantine 3
    com.apple.security.SecureRemotePassword 1.0
    com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
    com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleMultitouchDriver 245.13
    com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.7
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 3.6.0
    com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 2.5.3fc1
    com.apple.vecLib.kext 1.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.9.4fc11
    com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.14
    com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily 98.7.1
    com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAGK100Hal 8.1.8
    com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAResman 8.1.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport 4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.0.4
    com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.3.6
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.12d1
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 2.5.3fc1
    com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 2.5.3fc1
    com.apple.driver.X86PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily2 98.7.1
    com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl 3.4.12
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.11d1
    com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 91
    com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.3.6
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.6d1
    com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 5.5.1d27
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltEDMSink 1.2.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHIDKeyboard 170.15
    com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard 170.15
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 650.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 650.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPOutAdapter 2.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPInAdapter 2.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPAdapterFamily 2.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltPCIDownAdapter 1.4.0
    com.apple.driver.CoreStorage 380
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltNHI 1.9.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOThunderboltFamily 2.8.5
    com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController 1.0.3b3
    com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 600.34
    com.apple.driver.mDNSOffloadUserClient 1.0.1b4
    com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 3.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.6.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 2.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
    com.apple.security.sandbox 278.10
    com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 7
    com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore 2
    com.apple.driver.DiskImages 371.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.9
    com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily 21
    com.apple.driver.AppleFDEKeyStore 28.30
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4
    com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0
    com.apple.kec.pthread 1
    Model: iMac14,2, BootROM IM142.0118.B00, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 3.5 GHz, 32
    GB, SMC 2.15f2
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M, PCIe, 2048 MB
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 8 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x02FE,
    0x45424A3831554738454655352D474E4C2D46
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 8 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x02FE,
    0x45424A3831554738454655352D474E4C2D46
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM1, 8 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x02FE,
    0x45424A3831554738454655352D474E4C2D46
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 8 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x02FE,
    0x45424A3831554738454655352D474E4C2D46
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x111), Broadcom
    BCM43xx 1.0 (6.30.223.154.45)
    Bluetooth: Version 4.2.0f6 12982, 3 services, 23 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
    Serial ATA Device: APPLE HDD ST3000DM001, 3 TB
    USB Device: BRCM20702 Hub
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
    USB Device: Keyboard Hub
    USB Device: Apple Keyboard
    USB Device: USB 2.0 Hub
    Thunderbolt Bus: iMac, Apple Inc., 23.10

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