New to AMD - MSI HD 7970 Twin FrozR OC BE Temps

Card in question - http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R7970-TF-3GD5-OC-BE.html#/?div=Specification
For the last few years I have a series of Nvidia cards and my last card, GTX570 SOC Windforce, which was pretty heavily overclocked would sit around about 80 degrees under load.
Today my MSI HD 7970 Twin FrozR OC BE arrived and all I've done so far is to install the latest CCC/drivers and try Heaven/Valley and play some Payday 2. In the benchmarks and in PD2 the card will hit 97 degrees which to an AMD novice like me concerned me a little.
I was advised to install MSI Afterburner 3.0.0 Beta 15 and try running Valley once more. I'd guess the ambient temp in the room is about 25 degrees and the card started at an idle temp of 40 degrees. Here's the results -
Obviously it's not as high as 97 degrees but I'm not sure if that's because the newer version of Afterburner is more accurate and/or it's simply down to the relatively high fan speed (which was quite audible).
So I guess what I'm asking is -
A, Nothing to worry about, just enjoy the card
B, I've made an obvious error somewhere
C, The cards faulty and needs to be RMA'd.
Finally is that voltage correct? Should it be that high?

If I change the voltage to 1180mV load temps are a more respectable 72% but the fans spin up to 77% or about 3600rpm which seems excessive.
This review - http://www.overclockers.com/msi-hd-7970-tfiii-oc-boost-edition-review - which incidentally also shows a vcore of 1256mV states the following -
"With the fan control set to auto, the highest temperatures we saw was 71 °C. The fan hit around 45% to do it and was pretty silent"
The only way I can get close to this is to "undervolt" the card as you suggested and my fans are a good 30% faster than they experienced. For what it's worth I'm using a Corsair 600T SE with a 200mm Bitfenix Spectre Pro front intake, a 120mm Corsair exhaust and a Corsair H100 in the roof with 2 * 120mm exhaust fans. All fully cable managed. As a result I don't think poor airflow or a poor case can be attributed to the poor results I'm seeing so far.

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I have an interesting update on my original problem.
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