New to Business Rules Management

Hi All,
I am really new to Business Rules Management and trying to model rules in the SAP Netweaver Composition Environment.
Could someone let me know if they have any sort of document to do the same.
Thanks & Regards,
Sushanth Hulkod

Hi Suskanth,
Check out the BRM section on SDN http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-rules-management as well as the SAP NetWeaver BRM section SAP NetWeaver Business Rules Management Resources Center [original link is broken] where you can find tutorials.
O.

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Hello Prashanth,
You can just select the usage type (functional unit) Business Process Management and Business Rules management for installation.
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Installation guide - SAP Systems Based on SAP NetWeaver 7.3 Application Server Java on Windows: MS SQL Server- https://websmp105.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700001259982010E
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A         AA
B         BB
C         CC.
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Hi,
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Hi experts,
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Edited by: Vivek D K on Dec 18, 2008 12:47 PM

Hello Vivek,
This is Arti from the SAP Business Rules Management team.
Yes, according to the roadmap, change management will be available with SAP Netweaver BRM in 2009. Along with this, you can also expect Rules Manager - a web based interface to manage rules. This is specifically meant for business users. There will also be rules testing and business rules refinement and validation.
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We have created a BRM project in software component with decision table and initialized it with some values. Then we transported it to the QA and Prod system through the CMS. Note: in the SC not only the BRM project but also a WDJ, for example.
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SAP NW Business Rules Management web UI tool for business users (Rules Manager) has a feature "Download Rules Content" from CE 7.3 onwards.
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Igor S. wrote:
He solves the same problem with rules and without. My question was what would be better? Why would you chose one over the other. I prefer rules that is easy to state, easy to read, and easy to implement. Clear text rules in Prolog being a firm favourite. :-)
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It was suggested I post this in calc manager as well, so I hope cross posting is allowed!
We are trying to migrate from Hyperion Planning 11.1.1.3 to 11.1.2.2
Our business rules were migrated to Calc Manager by our IT team. The rules run (for the most part).
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"Accrued Salaries and Wages Pushdown" = "BTL Accrued Sal & Wages Total"->"WBS_I19990_PLAN" * (D0P000->"Total Reg Labor" / "LMSS (LRP TEMPLATE LEVEL)"->"Total Reg Labor");
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FIX (@DESCENDANTS( "Orders"),
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/*STARTCOMPONENT:FORMULA*/
"Accrued Salaries and Wages Pushdown" = "BTL Accrued Sal & Wages Total"->"WBS_I19990_PLAN" * (D0P000->"Total Reg Labor" / "LMSS (LRP TEMPLATE LEVEL)"->"Total Reg Labor");
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FIX ( /*DIM:Accounts*/@DESCENDANTS( "Orders"),
Thanks for any help.
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You might learn to appreciate graphical mode in Calc Manager, we do. It is not like the old Business Rules in EAS. I am an old school calc script person, and have NO love for drag-and-drop coding ... I need control. ;-)
Insert a blank script object and paste your code into the 'Script' tab for that object. Set up your prompts and use the {} notation in your code. All of the comments will stay put ... as long as you DON'T USE EDIT, SCRIPT! We make a fair number of generic, reusable pieces of code and save them as shared scripts. These can be dragged into Rules. Click on the Rule's Begin object and choose the Script tab ... you will see how the bits are assembled into complete calc script. We've even come up with a way to use LOOP ... ENDLOOP as though it were a procedural IF statement so we can control whether or not a chunk of code is active or not.
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