New to NI cRIO 9076

Hello everyone!
i am completely new to interfacing NI modules with labview. i interfaced cRIO 9076 through ethernet, installed all the softwares (NI RIO, NI RT etc). it is getting detected in NI MAX. but all it shows is "cRIO is in safe mode( no softwares installed)" and status LED blinks two times indicating trouble with software.
how do i configure the device. what are the things to be done to use cRIO.?
PS:i also have gone through the getting started guide from this link
http://www.ni.com/gettingstarted/setuphardware/compactrio/
Thank you!

i have installed everything from the LabVIEW evaluation CD. i have also checked that all the necessary cRIO softwares are installed.
i use 2013 version of FPGA,NI MAX and RIO
OS is Windows 7
when i check the NI distributed system it says i have attached modules at port 1&4(in screenshot). so i guess there is no problems with the cRIO.
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