New W530 CPU question

Happy holidays all...
I ordered a W530 to replace my W510 and I have a question regarding the config. The machine I ordered is as follows:
Processor
Intel Core i7-3920XM
Operating system
Windows 7 Professional 64
Total memory
8 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (2 DIMM)
Hard drive
500GB HDD 7200rpm
Video
NVIDIA Quadro K2000M 2GB
I was tossed between ordering the i7-3920 and the i7-3820QM and would like to know if there is a meaningfull difference in performance between both CPU's as it relates to running multiple virtual machines and heavy CPU dependant games like Microsoft FSX.
I'd also like to know if the W530 is better at managing cooling than the W510, especialy under heavy workloads.

Not sure about the W530.
The W520 uses a different (and more noisy!) fan for the XM processor - since the XM draws 10W more power.
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Samsung Series 9 15-inch NP900X4C-A03US - PCMark7: 4674

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