New Zen need a new firmware upd

I was looking for some solution to some problems I encounter with the new Zen 8gb
. I notice that when you turn on the device it flicker and the Zen display Flicker after it is on.
But here is a list of suggestion I found on line that I agree needed to be added to a new firmware.
I also bought the new Zen 6gb.
The new Zen Firmware should include
* Add bookmarking ability to video
* add more book marks
* Integrate SD card into the main library like ever other player
* MSC/MTP Option
* More Codec Support: OGG, FLAC, ect...
* Nati've video support like the Zen Vision:M (dont know if this is possible, but it would be nice)
* ability to copy from SD to main memory and back
* FM Recording

So you are changing from 32 bit to 64 bit? Are you likely to move up to 4GB RAM or more at any time in the future? If so you have three choices:
1. bin the extra RAM
2. if you stay on a 32 bit system, recompile your kernel
3. install a 64 bit system and be done with it
I am writing from my brand new 64-bit install (put the new motherboard in this pm )
fwitiw, I've got a separate home partition as well as one for multimedia and a few more for other personal and business stuff. My / is pretty much on its own so using another system is no bother - it looks the same, smells the same, heck, it even tastes the same. One difference I noticed though was that when I click on openoffice I can't even say Gorden Bennett before the whole suite is up! Like shit off a shovel

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Same happened to me and I only had the thing a few hours. I may leave it connected overnight to see if the battery needs charging but if nothing happens it's going back. I've tried plenty of suggestions. The Creative screen flashes on when I plug it in but then just sits there. Reseting does nothing and how can you do anything to it if it's not recognised by the PC. Vista did see it before the update attempt. Wondered whether to throw XP back on.
Do I have to resort to the new ipod Nano
OK I've done it. Somewhere on this forum it said to disconnect the Zen from the PC.
Now at the same time, press and hold the play/pause button, put a pin into the reset button and hold down the on/off switch (yes all 3 in that order at the same time). Recovery mode came on and I tried to uninstall the firmware update from previously - it didn't do it but I updated the latest firmware again anyway and this time it worked. I guess the last attempt didn't take.
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ZEN: Blank screen after firmware upd

I updated my 4GB ZEN to .0.05 firmware.
It worked well for a few hours then it just went dark screen, not responding.
I couldn't access the recovery mode and my computer won't detect it.
When I reseted the player, the Creative logo came up and then blank screen, nothing.
Flashing the firmware back to the older version is not an option (tried, my computer won't detect the player)
Neither does the recovery tools (tried, same reason as above)
So I guess the only option I have left is to go to the service center, right?

if you read to other posts with the same problem you see what you need to do to fix it ..... but just for jou the last time??this is what i diid and it works :?To Fix any problems with broken firmware form attempted "playsforsure" firmware updates etc where your pc finds it as a 20mb dri've and it sits in recovery mode and does bugger all:
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1. Uninstall all creative software & drivers
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3. Re-install the Zen Driver from the creative website and reboot
4, Plug Zen in.
5, Make sure you have the firmware update ready, run it but don't click the language bit yet), leave the mouse hovering over your language selection.
6. On the Zen- select "reload OS"
7. As soon as it flashes up "reload new firmware now via USB" click the language button
8. Tada, now the pc should find it and allow you to re-load the firmware. (it may take a few attempts)
9. Once complete, click close and restart the pc. Everything should now be fine.
0. once you are happy you can re-install WMP and it will work fine.
Cheers!?thanks for ather forums that had bringed me the information

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I had another problem even before the update - after the player is unlocked, the back arrow does not respond well. It would go to the tracklist then back to now playing. I have to go to the bottom right corner button and "lookup artist" then press back to go back to where I was before I locked it. I don't know if that's just the way the player is designed.
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[Zen Micro] Problems with firmware upd

Hello!
Yesterday I finally received my Zen Micro and I tried to update my firmware, but it didn?t work. I downloaded the file (firmware 2.02.2) from creative.com and nomadworld, but both files didn?t work.
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Hi, I just bought a brand new Zen Micro. The software installation went fine.
After plugging in the unit to my USB port, a message appears on the windows taskbar saying "Nomad Jukebox 2/3/Zen Detected".
I would assume this is the normal message. I then attempt to transfer files via Creative Mediasource. Howerver when I load up the creative mediasource software, I get an error message saying "Player is not connected". Naturally of course the Zen Micro is indeed connected. I can not transfer any files and the player locks up.
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I also Just, few hours back fully charged my Micro and got it working. I downlaoded the latest firmware released in Feburary. But i decided il only use it if something was wrong with the player. Mine went smooth....
Fully charged it while installing the software on the CD, unplugged the AC, I didn't sue the White USB cable it came with (lots of people say tis crap) So i sued my Sony Digicam USB cable which is always connected to my pc anyway.
Plugged my player into the USB cable while the player was On.
Done.... Windows Xp Pro detected it, 2 icons in My Computer popped up, One was the shortcut to the media source software and one was the player itself kinda liek a removable dri've.
My firmware is .0.30 and opening Widnows Media player 0, and hit Synch Tab, my player responded, and said Docked. And within 5 minutes most of my music was on....
I dotn get how some othe rpeoples players are playign up so much.
Maybe only people who have problems ever post so it seems like everyones having a problem. lol
Oh and i would recommend not to do a firmware update unless soemthings wrong wiht ur player. I wont risk it if i were you.

No connection after installing firmware 1.10.03 on brand new Zen Nano P

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After I installed the new firmware, .0.03, my Zen Nano Plus is no longer recognised by my computer (it seems to work fine otherwise). What should I do?
I have tried this on not just one, but three different computers, with no luck, even though all three computers recognise another Zen Nano Plus (my son's) which still runs on .03.02.
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http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/
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I got my New Zen today and I played it for two hours.Now I got a very problem. It appeared Firmware problem. I can not turn it off and everything does not work even I reset it. I try to use new firmare but I can not do anything because the firmware problem made New Zen dead.How can I do for this problem It's very sad that I just got a New Zen.

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I guess the ZEN is now considered as an old product for the CREATIVE's engineers...
Do you think a new ZEN firmware with few enhancements (like SD integration) could be possible after sept 2008 ?

No, that's the end of the line.
This has been the pattern of Creative in the past. Release a bunch of new firmwares in the first several months, then stop. There hasn't been new firmware since February.
So much for SD integration and a proper resume function.

Cannot upgrade firmware on new Zen

So, I've got the new 6gb zen, I have XP SP2, installed wmp, then installed the software that came with the player, got the upgrades from creatives website... went to upgrade the player... "player not connect" - connect player (it charges so IS connected) and nothing.
Done all the usual, uninstalled everything, re-installed it all and nothing has changed.
I cannot see the Zen at all on my PC.
Also I note, creatives knowledge base states "DO NOT connect your player to your PC before setting up the software. "
Where as microsoft website says "If you have a Creative ZEN device, make sure the device has the latest firmware before you install Windows Media Player " So what do I do first If your in cahoots with each other, at least state corresponding advice.
ANy advice
Cheers
ps, BIG complaint on having to use windows media!! Why doens't the new Zen come with a complete software package, I bought creative as all their other products had excellent software with the player.... are creative in cahoots with microsoft
I always praised creative on all thier products.... had soo much grief with apple and was happy to come back to creative after 3 years of hell with an ipod, and now creative do this It's unbelievable.
Message Edited by bretch on 04-9-2008 02:47 PM

Earlier this week I had the same problem with a used Zen Micro 5GB that I purchased. After hours of the same problem, I finally remembered what I had to do when installing some newer Creative Players earlier this year.
One way is to revert back to Windows Media Player 0 by removing the WMP and the WMP Runtime . Then install the firmware. That's what worked for me this time.
The other method was to revert to WMP 0 (using the above method) and also removing all the Creative software installed on my computer (using add/remove programs), Then the computer recognized the new players. After installation, I was able to put the Creative software back on my computer and everything then worked. At a later date, WMP 0 asked if I wanted to install new updates and without thinking, I clicked yes and then I had WMP back and everything still worked.
Hope this helps you. I found some of the information in the tutorials on the Support page on this site and other information on fixya.com (an Internet site for fixing all sorts of MP3 Players including Creative.)
You know, it shouldn't be this hard to get a player running, as most people buying their first players aren't very computer literate. I remember when purchasing my first Zen Micro several years ago, I was completely snowed as to what to do when I couldn't hear the music on start up. Of course then I locked up the player and spent a long time trying to figure out what happened. I can see why so many people think they got a lemon, and return their players.
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Suggestion for renaming new Zen 4GB/8GB/1

Just bought myself a new "Zen 4GB". I think Creative should rename it to "Zen Paperclip". Seem i
need to reboot it several times (7 times in 2 days). Talk about product quality issues. What
a waste of $30.
No mention on the box either that it doesn't support UMS - how many media players out there don't
act as a mass storage devices these days. Even my old 3rd gen ipod can be mounted on my Linux box
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Off to the Apple store.. The new iTouch looks nice. Well it doesn't have a SD slot, but that doesn't
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I was not comparing a 4GB model with a 8GB iTouch which is their base model iTouch. So there's only $00 in it if you compared 8gb with 8gb. Plus you are looking at much better features and stability on the apple (or so my friend tells me). Half the so called features on the Zen don't work very well, and i'm not the only one. Look at this very forum.
>Who told you that you can't use the ZEN as an USB Storage Device? Mine works fine this way.
I told you. I have one, and it doesn't support UMS. You cannot plug it into a Mac or Linux and see the device. You are limited to MTP support only ! If you give your player to someone else who doesn't have the MTP driver installed in windows it will NOT work as a plain storage device. Try it before you respond.
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Brought a Brand new ZEN Vision M MP3 player but it wont cha

Mods please reply urgently I have brought a brand new mp3 player it wont charge using the dc charger supplied, it wont charge using the usb ports I cant get the computer to recongnise the player if i umplug the dc adaptor - the only symbol visable in the corner of the screen is a the mains power symbol - I have tried leabing it on to charge but if doesnot thing - I have looked on the creative support pages and on this forum and everyone suggests downloading the new firmware - But it has been suggested that if i do this i will void my warrenty - could you please confirm whether this is the case and if so what would you suggest i do to solve the problem Please reply asap Thanks Marmite

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Hi, I just got a new Zen Micro.
I've read that people often have trouble transferring mp3s encoded at variable bit rate (VBR) to the Micro with Creative's software. Almost ALL the songs on my computer are VBR mp3s.
Can I skip installing Creative's software and just transfer my VBR mp3s to the Micro with Windows Explorer? Or what is the best way?
Thanks in advance.
(brand-new black Zen Micro. battery now charging for the first time OMG!!!)
(Windows XP Home)

Update: I did install Creative's software from the included disk -- my computer didn't recognize the Micro without it. Then I just dragged and dropped mp3s to the Micro's Music Library with Windows Explorer -- worked perfectly! No trouble at all with VBR files (except one or two with messed-up tags), and they sound great on the Micro.
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