Newbie here...some Zen Micro questions/suggestio

Hi im new Okay i have some questions for y'all:
Will having only usb .0 work for a zen micro? I have a n200 and it works fine, just wondering if the micro will work on my computer too.
Yes, I recently ordered a Zen Micro. Unfortunately that was before i came to this forum, and after witnessing that massi've 08 page headphone jack thread, I'm getting very worried. Are there any people out there who are satisfied with the micro? If you have problems, don't reply with a MICRO SUX0RZ **bleep** THE MICRO. I need some feel-good stories!
And one quick final clarification about the headphone jack problems: Is the problem actually fixed in the later shipments of the zen micro? I'm pretty sure mine will be a later model since it's not going to come with a wall charger, but I haven't been able to find a definiti've answer for it. Is there anyone out there who've never had this problem? again, that stupid 08page thread
Thanks!

got my zen micro5gb as a gift, loaded this thing with everything indie... started to notice if i moved a little bit the music would cut out and it would be music distorted, without the vocal, another movement and its all back. so i figured it was bad headphones, the zen ones hurt youre ears. so i bought jvc buds $22 nyc bargain, they work great, then suddenly same thing..in and out so i got a rma and sent it , next thing i know now i have a 6 gig nice right, i charge it up and here i am sitting here the darn thing isnt being connected by my computer, i cant load music on or anything, so im figuring buy another usb. - 2.0 cord. i've already written a letter in, i dont see why there isnt 24hr help, alot of products to offer and not enough help. 2 days for an email reply, ha.. i can buy a new one in that time. -mc

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Zen Micro questions and concer

Hello, I've had my Zen Micro 5gb for about 2 /2 months now and while some of these problems have been around for a while I thought I'd ask on here to see if anyone else has these problems as well. First of all I have the new firmware ..0 installed it right after buying the player. Now for my concerns,
) I've noticed that I only get about 8ish hours of playback on a full charge (which is roughly about 2 hours to go from bar to full) volume between 0 and 5 and used for periods of usually an hour at a time. Most of the songs on the player are CD quality bit rate (28 is it's) and my question is, is this normal? The quoted time is up to 2 hours battery life.
2) I have the idle shutoff time set to 5 min of inactivity and the sleep timer at 30 min. The problem that I've found and I don't know if this is how it's supposed to be, which seems strange if it is, is that when I turn on the power (and is where I want it to be so I don't adjust it at all) it shuts off after 5 minutes which I find annoying. But, I've also found that even if I move through some screens and change the song and set it back in my pocket, it still shuts off after 5 minutes, only when I adjust the volume (I still need to test this to make sure that that's what it is) does it play for the full 30 min.
3) When the Micro starts up (while not on the 4hr standby there is?), so when it goes through the full Creative and Zen Micro screens at the startup there is a glitch where the "Zen Micro" screen stays on for up to a full 0 seconds and about 5 seconds into it there is a box halfway up the 'ZEN' where the letters don't show, I don't really know how else to explain it but I'll try "drawing it".
a) ----- |------- |\ | b) |
/ | | \ | |
/ |------- | \ | |
/ | | \ | / | | \ |
/____ |_______ | \| /____ |_____ | \|
M I C R O M I C R O
(It looks good writing it out, but alas the formatting doesn't seem to work posting it)
After about 5 seconds (it varies) it changes from the first to the second for about another 5 seconds. The only thing is, it does this every so often and is not consistent as to when it does it. The music starts playing while it's doing this as well. I'm also wondering if the Creative screen (without the copyright stuff) is supposed to last for a full 0 seconds like it seems to be now as that seems quite excessi've but I am not sure what the 'norm' is.
4) I've had it freeze on the "Shutting down..." screen but taking the battery out and replacing it seems to fix that, as others have discussed.
If someone could fill me in on what's "normal" or not and your own experiences with this it would be greatly appreciate. Thank you in advance.Message Edited by Guildenstern87 on -06-2005 :57 PMMessage Edited by Guildenstern87 on -06-2005 :57 PM

. The 2 hours is based on using the player playing 28kbit/s MP3s continuously. Anything you do to the player in terms of frequent skipping of tracks, higher bit-rate tracks, downloading/uploading etc. will shorten the battery life. See the FAQ post for lots on this.
2. Known bug.
3. It just seems to be some innocuous screen write bug. It doesn't seem to do any harm other than look naff.
4. Mine doesn't freeze on shutting down. Perhaps try a disk cleanup from rescue mode?

Travel Dock Zen Micro Question

Hello everyone,
For my holiday I want to buy a set of speakers for my Zen Micro 6GB. I looked around a little bit and found a couple of speakersets. One of them is the Zen Micro traveldock. It looks great and its very clever made with all its features. But now I have some questions about this:
1. Can I charge my Zen Micro with the Travel Dock without the USB-connection, so only the DC-connector ? Because in the description at the Dutch Creatice site it`s not very clear, there they wrote down that you can charge the Zen when you connect the travel dock to a USB-device, so i`m not sure you can do it with the DC only ?
2. Is the soundquality good ? Well, everybody has something different to say about it, but in general you can say something about it. Is it bad, normal or good ? And is the volume power a little bit good ?

My Micro is playing in the TravelDock as I write this. And I can confirm that the lid does close with the Micro in place. The unit has a good sound. I've got it full volume right now. There is no deep bass, but again, these are .5 inch speakers. I will try a powered subwoofer I have with the unit later. There is enough power to fill an average size room or to enjoy the music outside. There is a switch that alters the sound field from narrow to wide. The effect is noticeable if you are listening for it. The connection between the TravelDock and the Micro is easy to make and the Micro sits very securely in the dock. The lid works as desktop stand as well and is held in place by two rubber grippers that are rather stiff and needed some coaxing to work. I will expect these will loosen with use. The documentation on Creative's website says the TravelDock doesn't include batteries, but mine did have 4 Eveready alkalines in the box.
Not too many people have seen the MicroPhoto yet, but apparently it is not exactly the same size as the Micro. There is a small rubber self adhesi've spacer included with the TravelDock. The manual says this small spacer needs to be inserted into the dock if you plug in a MicroPhoto, So, I'm guessing the MicroPhoto is a few millimeters thinner than the Micro. Is that right?
Message Edited by randalllewis on 0-0-2005 2:46 AM

[Zen Micro]Questions about the Firmw

Hello,
I have some questions about the firmware of the Zen Micro
. Can I use the Zen Micro without any Software (MediaSource?) on my PC (winXP) when im using the Firmware Creative Zen Micro *PlaysForSure/MTP Firmware 2.00.2 ? This means that i copy my Music only by drag&drop from the Explorer after my Computer has detected the Zen Micro as a Removable Disk!
2. I know that the Zen Micro has two parts with the Normal Firmware. The "Removable Disk" Part and the "Playable" Part which can only used by the Software! But what happens if my . question is right. How can i seperate this two parts?
Thanks for answers

I don't have the 2.x firmware, but I think I'm correct in saying this :
with the 2.x firmware, your Micro becomes an MTP compatible device, which can be recognized on PCs having an MTP compatible OS (operating system). For the moment, the only OS that fits the bill to my knowledge, is Win XP with Windows Media Player 0. In this combination of MTP device + MTP OS, you don't need to install other drivers, and you can do drag and drop
BUT ! The 2.x firmware doesn't make your device a "removable disc" in the traditional sense of the word. It doesn't become a file system, like a USB memory stick.
I hope I was clear enough to see the difference :-)Message Edited by fred_be9300 on 04-03-2005 02:52 AM

Some zen micro observati

Hi all. I have had my zen Micro for a couple of days already and hier are some observations that concern issues with the player: so, after a day of usage I noticed that the BACK, the PLAY/PAUSE and the OPTIONS buttons do not respond any longer. I can try for about a minute and they just do not respond. The Vertical Scroll and the FF and the REW butons are ok. When I recharge the battery however, the buttons begin to respond , but they are not as sensiti've as the Last three mentioned. They are still ok, but when the battery goes empty , they are dead.
Then another observation: When I turn the player off, I hear a very quiet high frequency noice (my ear very close to the player), which indicates that there is some battery flow. I do not hear this noice when the player is on and when music plays. While the player is off and the noise is there I remove the battery and the noise goes off. What can this be. Why do not my buttons respond as normal, and whay there is a hardly audible high frequency noise while the player is off? Did I get a faulty player?
Thanx for any help!

Beacause the player is faulty..... I hate to sy it but you're going to have to get a replacement most likely. I would reload the firmware and do a disk clean up but you will most likely have to go back to the shop you bought it from or contact Creative for an RMA.
As for some quick troubleshooting I'd suggest going into Rescue Mode but removing the battery. Then while replacing the battery pressing and holding the power switch in the on position. It should power up into Rescue Mode and you will see a list of options. Select Clean Up and a % complete will be shown as scan disk is run. It should only take a few moments. Reboot and power off to see if you can still hear the low buzz you described. If that doesn't work then try the Reload OS via USB option. Download firmware version .0.03 from the site and go from there. Best of luck! The player is amazing and well worth *some* hassle

Zen Micro question - please h

Ok, so I received my Zen Micro 5g in the mail today, and I can't seem to install the software onto my computer. I have Windows XP, and even after closing all the applications and making sure I'm logged on as an administrator, it still won't work. Every time I insert the disk, the Creative screen comes up, but when I go to press Next, the DemoShield player closes and says that it has encountered a problem and must be closed. Does anyone know what this problem might be and is there any way I can fix it's Thanks.

Got Quicktime 7 installed? See this thread.
You can also download the required drivers and software from the downloads page, but make sure Quicktime 7 is updated.

Newbie here, i have a question, i was looking for but not sure how to ...

hi guys, i have a question, hope i'm not doing something wrong here...
well i was wondering if i put all my songs, on itunes, and than transfer to ipod... could i erase all the tunes i have on my computer? i mean, i would love to be able to free the space on my hard drive...
I was wondering if i also remove the songs from my itunes, it would erase the songs on my Ipod as well?
thanks in advance.

You can delete songs from your iTunes/computer hard drive after transferring them to the iPod, and for this you need to set your iPod to manage the songs manually.
However, this is an extremely risky option because when (and not if) there comes a time to restore your iPod, which is a very common fix for iPod problems, then all the music would be erased. If you no longer have the music in iTunes (or any other back up), then all that music would be lost.
What if the iPod were lost/stolen/needed repair? Again, the music would lost. I strongly recommend a back up, and if computer hard drive space is in short supply, you should seriously consider an external hard drive. They are not expensive, and the cost is well worth it when compared to the loss of all your precious music.
At the very least back up your music to either cd or dvd before deleting it, particularly any purchased music/videos, as this would have to be bought again if it were lost. See this.
How to back up your media in iTunes.

Zen Micro under Windows 98??? HELP

hi guys,
got me a little problem here with Zen Micro. according to the spec from the manufacturer Zen Micro will not work under Win 98. however, i have purchased MuVo TX FM some time earlier where the instruction said the same but after downloading some kind of a patch or upgrade (got it from cnet.com) the player appears under Win 98 as a removable disk. has anyone tried such a trick with Zen Micro?
p.s. i dont really care about mediaSource - just as long as it works
will this help? firmware upgrade from creative website
http://pl.europe.creative.com/suppor...ype=0&details=
please help!!!

baldbear wrote:
Windows 98 does not support USB devices. It has to be 98SE (or some sort of hack of 98)
Windows 98 does support USB. See this Microsoft article on USB troubleshooting in Win 98, 98 SE and ME:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q26328/
Creative have just chosen not to support it for their newer players for reasons known only to them. Here's the requirements for an original MuVo from the NomadWorld products site:
PC Minimum System Requirements:
Microsoft Windows 98/98SE/2000/ME/XP</LI>
Intel Pentium II 233MHz or AMD K6-2 266MHz</LI>
64MB RAM (28MB recommended)</LI>
0MB free hard disk space (more for audio content storage)</LI>
USB port</LI>
Installed Mouse</LI>
Note: Win 98 and 98SE were supported at some stage.
Some people have noted here, though, that trying to install drivers/firmware doesn't work if Win 98 is detected.
Also just noticed that the firmware updates for the above MuVo do not support Win 98 whereas the original device did. Surely if Creative supported Win 98 for this device was sold they should continue to support it for firmware updates?
PB

New zen micro not recognized by pc - help Christmas prese

The software installed perfectly - no problems. But now, I am getting message that the device is not being recognized by PC. Customer Support is closed for holiday and my daughter wants to try her new Zen Micro. What do I do now? This is the only computer we have and it is Windows XP 2002 version. Any advice? Thanks!

ald3908 wrote:
yes
OK, that's good news.
Now we have to find out why the Zen & our computer aren't talking to each other.
From the NomadnessNet FAQ:
I have connection problems with my Zen, what can I do?
Here are some things to try if you have connection issues with your player:
. Reset the player and run a disk cleanup.
2. Install the latest drivers, firmware and application software. Download these from Nomadworld.com.
3. Try the player on ALL your USB ports and make sure you aren't using a hub.
4. Try some other transfer software (see the list above).
5. In Device Manager with the Zen connected delete it from the device listing. Physically disconnect the Zen from the USB cable, reset it, then reconnect to the PC to see if it is detected properly.
6. Test the player on another PC (ideally a different make), if possible. This will help determine where the problem lies i.e. with the player, or the PC.
7. Double check the files you are transferring. It's possible for the transfer to halt if the file is corrupt in some way, or the tag data within the file can't be read or is corrupt. The simple test is to try transferring a file that you know will work i.e. copy a file off the player, and then try transferring back to the player.
8. Try a replacement USB cable (ideal if you can borrow one from somewhere, or if you have another USB device that uses the same cable).
9. Check for BIOS and USB chipset updates.
0. Delete the USB ports in device manager, then reboot the PC to see if they are redetected with updated drivers.
. Make sure the player isn't locked.
2. Try going into Device Manager, update the driver manually by pointing it to C: Program FilesCreativeJukebox 3 Drivers.
3. If you are using a PCI USB card, try moving the card to all the other PCI slots in the PC.
4. Buy a known good PCI USB2 card from somewhere you can return it if it doesn't work i.e. the NEC USB chipset, typically used by Adaptec. Fit the card, and see if the player works with the ports on the card. Note that known problem chipsets include VIA, ALI, nForce and Intel, although it isn't clear if Creative and/or the chipset manufacturer are at fault.

Some questions about Zen Micro before to buy

Hi all, i'm thinking to buy a Zen Micro mp3 player, so i'm searching for the Web reviews and news about the Micro to understand if it is good for me, because about 250 euro is an important money amuont to spend for me.
And now i have 2 doubts:
) I have read that firmware "ZenMicro_PCFW_L4_2_00_2_MTP.exe" can freeze the Micro or to make Windows Xp does not recognise it. Is it real?
2) Will Zen Micro support the "mp3 pro" format in future firmware updates? It think "mp3 pro" is fantastic and has much more audio quality than wma o normal mp3 in very less space on disk.
Thanks to all people who will answer to me, excuse me for my imperfect english_
archigius

Archigius,
I have installed the version 2 firmware on several players and have yet to have run into any problems. I know there are people who have experienced them, but I think that the probability of this is low. Here are some suggestions on making sure it will work:
) Disable your antivirus before running the update. This really applies to all dri've/firmware updates.
2) Turn off all of your player related software.
3) Make sure you have Windows Media Player 0 and SP or higher installed
This is all you should have to do to make sure things go well.
Jeremy

Some more Micro Zen Question

Hey everyone!
I am extremely excited in getting a Zen Micro!! Apart from all the other micro daps, I think I'll be most satisfied with the Zen Micro
However, just before I buy one for myself, I have a few questions.
.) If your not satisfied w/ the colour, could you send it to Creative to exchange for another colour ?!
2.) When using wakeup timer, could you set specifically to what it will play at a volume ?! Also, I would like to sleep and wakeup to my music in bed... is the best solution for this to buy Creative speakers? If I do, does that mean I have to leave the speakers turned on 24/7, or does it shut down automatically when theres no signal?
3.) When player is locked, could you still control the volume on the touchpad ?!
4.) Could you turn off the blue glow ? Also, does it pulse to the music... sorta like the Karma dock ?!
5.) Is the voice recorder good enough and easily setup-able for class lectures ?!
6.) When you create playlists on the player, is it true you can only add one song at a time... or you could actually import whole artists/genres/albums ?! When you have a playlist, is it possible to delete seletecti've songs or add more songs ?! Could you play a playlist on shuffle mode ?!
7.) The cheapest I can find a ZM is $300 USD shipped Micro, which is on eBay BIN. I'm also from Canada and it's tough to find a good price. Used Minis and Carbons, which I don't mind because I'm tight on $$, are ~$90 USD. Do you still think the Micros are worth that difference in price ?!
Sorry for all my dumb questions. Hopefully someone who knows anything could speak up. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Merry Christmas!!
Best regards,
Truffles

I'll give it a try :
) dunno, but common sense would say "No".
2) dunno
3) when player is locked, touch pad is not doing anything; no volume change.
4) turn off backlight is possible. Beat to the music, don't think so.
5) dunno if it will pick up all the classroom chatter. But setup is easy. Just press start through the menu, it takes about 5-0 sec before recording actually starts.
6) you can add albums, genres, artists or songs to the "Selected Music" = "Now playing" playlist (they'll be added at the end). At any time, you can save this "Selected Music" as a playlist. Within Selected Music, you can choose to remove a song, but you cannot reorder them. To change a saved playlist, the only way I know is to play that playlist (so it's put in the "Selected Music") then remove / add songs, and save back as playlist under the same name. Mind you that typing names for playlists (or FM radio stations) is quite a pain (linear scrolling through the alphabet, changing Charset for upcase/lowercase/other symbols). At any time you can choose a play mode (shuffle and/or repeat, etc) for the "Now playing" music, which means that you can shuffle a saved playlist.
7) dunno these other players

Some questions about the correct way to recharge the zen micro batt

Ok..i don't think this is convered in the FAQs.
I copied this from the FAQ----At the present moment, the only possible way to avoid the standby loss is removing the battery after you finish listening to music. Gi'ven the wear and tear resulting, this is not really an option. It will help, though, if you prime your battery correctly, recharge it often (topping it up, not only resorting to full recharges),
Ok...my question--
) to preserve battery life span, shouldn't we wait for the player to die off complete, for example when it starts to display "low battery" before we recharge it's Does this post mean that we shouldn't actually wait for the battery to be complete;y drained off before a recharge? Does it mean we should always recharge, say when there's one bar left?
2) Before doing any music transfer using the computer, should we always make sure the zen micro was fully charged first before the transfer since USB port also serves as a charger. I tried using a completely drained player before music transfer and the player stops charging after 3 hours, which shouldn't be the case because USB always take a longer time to charge (i was told twice as much) and true enough, after deplugging from the USB port, the player starts charging again. Note that this always happen, meaning i can never get a complete 5 hours charge using the USB. What is wrong? And after such charge from USB, i noticed that the battery life the next day is like one third of what it usually last when i charged it through a charger...
I know this is a long post but can someone tell me the correct way of charging?
Thanxs!

immunophilic wrote:
Ok..i don't think this is convered in the FAQs.
I copied this from the FAQ----At the present moment, the only possible way to avoid the standby loss is removing the battery after you finish listening to music. Gi'ven the wear and tear resulting, this is not really an option. It will help, though, if you prime your battery correctly, recharge it often (topping it up, not only resorting to full recharges),
This is from JazzMC's FAQ right? (I added a link to this a day or two ago from the main FAQ post) I hadn't spotted this before and I don't agree with most of this. The wear and tear is minimal, but it's more a case of practicality that removing the battery is a pain. Also priming is not really that important with Lithium Ion, and topping up won't make any difference to the battery drain.
) to preserve battery life span, shouldn't we wait for the player to die off complete, for example when it starts to display "low battery" before we recharge it's Does this post mean that we shouldn't actually wait for the battery to be complete;y drained off before a recharge? Does it mean we should always recharge, say when there's one bar left?
Look in my Nomad Primer, which is essentially a distilled version of the information from BatteryUni'versity.com. Top-up charges prolong the life of a Lithium Ion battery. These are all reference in the FAQ.
2) Before doing any music transfer using the computer, should we always make sure the zen micro was fully charged first before the transfer since USB port also serves as a charger. I tried using a completely drained player before music transfer and the player stops charging after 3 hours, which shouldn't be the case because USB always take a longer time to charge (i was told twice as much) and true enough, after deplugging from the USB port, the player starts charging again. Note that this always happen, meaning i can never get a complete 5 hours charge using the USB. What is wrong? And after such charge from USB, i noticed that the battery life the next day is like one third of what it usually last when i charged it through a charger...
Because of the Micro's design there will always be a difference in the amount of power it can pull via USB vs. the drain when copying files to it. USB is slower to charge than the mains adapter, but it should charge fully given time (which could be twice as much as using the mains adapter).
There is a known issue with the battery draining on the Micro, but you should know this having read JazzMC's page. This is the reason the battery is so low the next day.

Brothers a new Zen Micro owner. He has a few battery questions..

Hey all,
I convinced my older bro to get a white Zen Micro, and he has a few questions. I answered most of them, but afterwards, he went online, and found info that told him otherwise (from what I told him, which is what I read here at the forums). Here are his questions....
. Is it safe to leave the Zen Micro charging overnight?
I told him yes, that it was. Someone from Creative here at the forums said that it would "turn off" automatically. He went into the Creative "Knowledge Base", and found this: http://dmzweb4.europe.creative.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=732,E=00000000000490764,K=5277,Sxi=0,Kb=ww_eng lish,VARSET=ws:http://us.creative.com/,Case=obj(669),Kb=ww_english
2. When charging the Micro, does the adapter/charger go by a set timer, or charge accordingly to how full the battery already is?
Thanx in advance .

i've left mine plugged in a few times and have NEVER noticed any type of heat build up. it usually shuts off after full charging and then cools down after that. maybe i'm killing my battery, maybe not who knows. i have some players that don't automatically shut off and i've noticed those DO get heat build up and i never leave those plugged in but with my zen xtra and micro it *appears* that the shut off feature prevents the heat buildup....that being said, the micro's owners manual says DON'T leave it plugged in or it will get heat buildup....who knows.

Just 5 questions about the Zen Micro Ph

HiJust 5 Q's about that player which i hope i get clear answers 4 'emcan i buy the charger designed for the original Zen Micro 2 be used with this player? if not, is there an additional charger i can buy ?2) How much time it takes the player 2 charge from the USB port and how much does it take in case of using a charger?3) Can i simply plug the player in my PC's USB and boot up windows XP 2 see the player simply as an additional dri've without the need of any special drivers or programs so that i transfer files between my PC and the player with simple drag and dropping4) Can i transfer non-media files (books - programs...etc) using the same method in question 3 without having 2 set up first a dedicated space on the player 4 receiving such files (<--- This is the way which has 2 be done with the old Zen Micros)5) Any dedicated volume control on it yet or it still misses it like old Zen Micros ?THANKS A LOT

Hi Catherina - thx 4 the reply but yr answer implies that the old Zen Micro can be seen in windows explorer directly as an additonal dri've and this contradicts all the reviews i have read about that in order to transfer non-media files to the player, i have 2 either use the bundled program "Zen Media Explorer" or the firmware itself (in case i am not allowed 2 install software on some computer i wanna transfer files from or to) but i was speaking about plugging the player simply in the USB to be detected by XP, assigned to it a dri've letter and then i can start copying files from/to it right away without any additional extra software installed or anything i must configure on the player itself. IMHO, this is how the MP3 players should behave 4 extra simplicity and ease of use
SUGGESTION: can u plz make video clips showing how 2 use the player in all aspects. I have seen that with the iri'ver players where some people (i am not sure if those people are the guys @ iri'ver themselves or just some fans) have posted numerous video clips showing the iri'ver player in all aspects so the end user like me feel like he is using the player in his hands even if he/she hasn't purchased it yet - something that will be very effecti've on people's decision purchase. Wish to see video clips showing all aspects of the Zen Micro player and may be other players
Here is the site i was talking about: www.misticri'ver.net
Message Edited by magoood on 0-04-2005 2:9 PM

Another question about the Zen Micro Firmware Upgr

Hi there,
I have just successfully installed the Creative Zen Micro Firmware .02.05 on my 5GB Zen Micro but I have a question regarding Windows Media Player. The Set up Sync button and some of the properties still appeared greyed out. I thought the upgrade would solve that problem.
Any thoughts?
C.

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