NF520T-C35 compatible with GTX460 video cards?

Hello,
to cut it short - I have problems installing Msi Cyclone GTX460 768MB/OC on this mobo. Until now I had Asus 9800GT which worked flawlesly. Preparation is done as usual (cleaning old drivers), vga in case, login to windows (XP Home, SP3), installation of new drivers (from MSI DVD that came with vga), restart... Then I came to the Windows logo screen, keyboard initialized but mouse NOT, and then after a few seconds - black screen. Fans are working, nothing I can do except for restart.
After that I can boot to the safe mode, mouse will sometimes initialize, sometimes not, but I can at least logon to safe mode via keyboard. I did other varants that came to my mind:
-deleting drivers in safe mode, rebooting, normal logon in Windows, then installing the newer ones from Nvidia site. After the reboot, exact the same hanging after Welcome screen.
-deleting drivers in safe mode, reboot to normal Windows, installing the older drivers (last ones from 9800GT) - no help, because drivers do not recognize 460GTX, and ask for a newer drivers
The usual suspect in this case is a power supply (Cooler Master 450W Real Power, 12A/10A at 2x 12V rails in continuity, 18A/16A at peak 60. sec), but I doubt that it is a problem - even if the supply is not strong enough for excessive 3D, it can at least have enough power to boot into Windows?
So, the only other explanation that came to my mind is that maybe my mobo is not compatible with GTX460 card? Why, because I found reports that some people needed to update mobo bios for GTX460 to work, but without any specific details about manyfactuter, chipset, etc. The latest bios is installed on my mobo, from May 2010.
Any help will be highly appreciated!

So I gave up on waiting for a miracle to happen, and bought a new motherboard (Gigabyte GA-M720-US3). Straight instalation, not a single problem, vga is fast as Usein Bolt... All the other components in rig are exactly the same, as well as Windows XP instalation (no, I did not reinstalled it), so it is pretty clear that for some reason MSI NF520T-C35 motherboard is not compatible with GTX460 cards. Is it a problem with this specific mobo or with a design of GTX4XX series, it is hard to tell - I have found many reports that people are having identical problem (hanging at a Welcome Screen) with GTX4XX cards from other manufacturers, on many different motherboards, in all MS OS's. But for the end user, conclusion is clear...
Big thanks to all the people who tried to help me! Problem not solved, rather overcomed.

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I have a 2008 24" iMac in which the video card is busted. The machine will turn on, get to the log in screen with no issues, however there is absolutely no video output to the screen.
I have attempted connecting it to an external monitor using mini DVI to VGA and a VGA cable, but the machine is not set to display to an external monitor.
Having the video card replaced will cost in the region of €300, an amount I'm reluctant to spend on a machine which is seven years old.
I have it backed up, so I'm really looking for advice to to how to wipe it so I can sell it on for parts, or other suggestions...

Your welcome, your new iMac likely does not have a Firewire port so you will need a Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter like:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapte r?fnode=51
I noticed several available on E-Bay however where you decide to get one is totally up to you.

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