[nForce] K7N2 Delta@ LSR stability problem

Okay gang...here's the scoop. Recently purchased the K7N2 Delta2 LSR and equipped it with an AMD XP-2600 (locked), 2X512 Rosewill Dual-Channel sticks, plus Samsung 80gb HDD and ATI Radeon 9000pro AGP. Built the system with no hassle and clean installed Win XP Home. Just wanted to get the system up, so left BIOS setting where they were for a couple of days. Noticed that the processor was not being recognized, so checked the BIOS and realized FSB was set to 133 (processor at ~1500mhz). I changed the FSB to 166 with multiplier of 11.5 (which, I believe is correct for my 2600 Barton). Voltage is at 1.65v. Memory is at DIMM slots 1 & 3 (dual channel) and memory voltage is at 2.7v. (Timings at 2.5,3,3,7) After I made these changes to the BIOS and rebooted, Win XP ran checkdisk, and reported no errors. The problem now, is that graphics-intensive stuff (i.e., games) cause system to freeze after about five seconds. When the processor was underclocked, I didn't have this problem. I'm not interested in over-clocking... just want it to be stable at stock speeds. Other applications (Word, Excel, IE, Outlook Express) run fine. My ATI Radeon 9000pro is a 4X AGP card (I have 8X disabled in BIOS), and the voltage is at 1.5v. I don't think this is a PSU problem (400w), and only noticed the problems since changing the FSB to where it was supposed to have been all along. Am I missing something obvious?

Board runs best with fsb:dram at 1:1 Not sure what speed memory you have but needs to run at same speed as fsb, ie 166 Mhz =333 ddr.
I found bios b3 to work best for me. Give that a go.
Give make/model of psu with max amps to +3.3v, +5v and +12v. See my signature for example.
I found that with other bios I need high performance setting in cell menu at optimised, so check that.
Search on this forum for my username and keyword 'bios' for lots of other posts.
Good luck

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[nForce] K7N2 Delta 2 LSR boot/power up issues

I installed the K7N2 Delta LSR mb with an Athlon XP socket A 3000+ cpu. The computer turns on but won't boot. Nothing appears on the monitor screen and there are no beeps. The harddrive spins, the board has power but nothing happens. When I put my old mother board back (MSI K7T Pro266A) in with the Athlon 2000+, everything works fine.
Maxtor 60 gb harddrive
512 MB SD pc2100 SD Ram
Abit 128 mb Radeon 9200SE Video card
Any suggestions?

A few things to check:
Do you have any unused stand offs in the case touching the motherboard
The XP3000 CPU is a barton core and comes in two variants, a 333FSB and a 400FSB version. Your RAM is PC2100 which with an Nforce chipset is a recipie for problems. The NForce chipset is picky about RAM and PC2100 running on a PC2700/PC3200 processor FSB probably won't work.
Also post your PSU max amps, as a +12V rail below 16A could cause problems.
Do you have a D-Bracket connected ? This is the PCI insert with 4 leds on ?

Weird K7N2 Delta (or sth) problem...

Hi all, I'll be quick because I need an answer to my problem as soon as I can...
Today I switched my old Albatron KM18G-Pro with an MSI K7N2 Delta-L, because I had problems with a heatsink on Albatron's Micro ATX mobo...
Ever since I did that, 3dmark01 score has gone at about 1000 (from 13200 to 12100) down, using the exact same drivers for VGA (Triplex Millenium Silver Ti4800SEV 128MB) mobo (nForce drivers v2.03 or 2.45 doesn't matter...). I can see that all tests from approximatelly Nature test and beyond are running choppy. I'm seeing choppy gameplay on screen but the fps on Nature seem correct. My refresh rate is set at the same rate as it was before (75Hz on my Eizo LCD 15" monitor). Fill rate runs too much choppily though the score must be correct. Tried switching to 4x mode but nothing happened. I'm really frustrated here guys so please help me...
ps. sorry for my bad english but I was in a hurry...

hi and welcome to this forum.
the score is not interesting and dont really say much.
whats interesting is how it works in games.
tried any games?
new install of xp?
irq conflicts ?
bye

K7n2 delta lsr + 3000XP prob

i just bought:
msi kt7n2 delta lsr
512 pc2900
3000XP
450w power supply
winXP
i cannot run the processr at 166mhz otherwise windows either brings up the error send report where it closses the application OR windows just restarts without warning.
my brother just bought the same set up aswell (he had his for crimbo) and hes got the same prob, except when he turns the speed to 166mhz, when windows goes to start he gets a BSOD, so i figure no biggy, just repair windows, as i go to do this before the installation or any questons are asked, he gets yet another BSOD and this happens everytime.
ive been ****ing round with bios options for a while but i aint very good at that ****.
and im running a ti4800 nVidia
i dont know wether to upgrade the bios because
A: i have never upgraded a bios before
and
B: if i were to take the board back hed probaly blame it on me for pratting around with it
so, what you guys reckon, i noticed in one of the topics that 400mhz ram would be needed for a 3000XP upgrade ?

The problems your having can be caused by power supply, memory compatiblitly and a few outer things.
List your power supply amps for 3.3 volt, 5 volt and 12 volt.
The ram is PC2700 it is 333 FSB ram your processor is a 400 FSB processor.
So you have created one problem there. Try running ram as single channel to see if it helps with stablity. Set ram speed to 333 FSB.
Or better yet buy some ram that is on the list of compatible ram 2-256 of PC3200 DDR is plenty of ram for games and programs and will keep price down.
Memory that is matched for Dual Channel will also help.
The newest Bios for the K7N2 Delta ILSR is 7.6 it may help with some ram problems but will not fix the FSB difference.

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Memory problems

I'm trying to burn in a system in a 50 deg C (122 deg F) room for a minimum of 12 hours. The main system components are as follows:
Motherboard: MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
Memory: 2x512 OCZ PC3200 EL
My problem is that the burn-in software continues to freeze up during the memory test. I've already contacted the software manufacturers and the software is stable. It's a problem with the way the motherboard handles the memory. I've tried putting the memory in dual channel configuration and changing the timing settings in the BIOS. The SPD settings are 2.5-3-3-7. Right now I have them at 3-4-3-8. It's a lot more stable than it was under the default settings but it still freezes up sometime after 7 hours. Unfortunately, I wasn't around when it froze so I don't know exactly how long it lasted. I can say that after 7 hours, it wasn't showing any slowdown in performance. If anyone could think of anything else I might be able to do to get the system stable, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the suggestions. The CPU FSB is 200, so it's already matched up there. And we have a ton of fans already. There are two in the front, 4 inside and 1 on the back. It's a custom case, 2u high. The power supply is oversized and more than adequate to provide the required power. I have four of these units running right now. Two with 2x512 sticks and two with 1x1024 sticks. For each combination, the memory clock speed for one is 166 and 200 for the other. I have been loosening up the memory timings trying to get the system stable, but it still isn't. If the power supply is good, and I'm unable to cool the system anymore due to limititions within the case, is there anything you can think of to stabilize the system. Maybe other settings in the BIOS or suggestions on how to go about getting good timings for the memory. Thanks.

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR MB Problems, Need Help ASAP!! PLEASE

Ok I just got this motherboard (MSI K7N2 Delta) Yesterday and after getting it setup I began overclocking the Processor (an AMD Athlon XP Barton Mobile 2500+) I was at 11x 215 1.750V Perfectly. I moved to 216 it started to seem unstable so I pushed the VCORE up to 1.775 and tried 217. It couldn't boot so I dropped it back down and decided ok 208 and a 11.5 multi might get me past the 2.4 mark which I was looking for. Well when I changed the Multi. to 11.5 and said save the system just sate as the flashing y for save. I could not change it to n I had already pushed enter So i firgured great and left it alone for a few minutes, nothing so I reset it. Now it refuses to boot/post. It spinds the fans the HD's the Network port is going but I get no picture. I have cleared the CMOS using the jumper I have removed the battery and power for over an hour and I still get nothing. I am assuming this is a BIOS error but I am not sure what to do to fix it. Does anyone here kno maybe, something I have yet to try something I can do? I would hate to RMA it and have to wait on newegg. Hell the thing is a day old. So please any idea's are welcome I have this posted on the Hard Forums as well but I am hopinh this forum may be more popular with getting help as no one is helping over there. Thanks!

Hi,
Cross: Just in case you are doing something wrong there's a clear CMOS guide here, follow it to the letter (and don't forget to put the FSB jumper to SAFE beforehand - there's a note about it in the guide).
How To Clear the CMOS
Your system board or CPU maybe not be dead yet - I had a similar problem with one of my boards and I tried everything - to cut a long story short I eventually got it working!!!
Btw, If you can't boot or get into the BIOS put your other CPU in (clear BIOS again after fitting!), so that you can prove whether your motherboard is working correctly!
Good luck! I'm off ta bed!
Axel

[nforce] K7N2 Delta, having massive lock-ups / random reboots.

Hi all, it's been a while since I last needed your wisdom. Anyway, a couple of days ago my machine began to randomly reboot on me, so I went about trying to figure out what is causing the problem. I've cycled out my PSU, my drives, changed BIOS settings, so on and so forth, and it's still happening. System Specs follow:
MSI K7N2 Delta Mobo
Athlon 2800+ Processor
512 x 2 Kingston ValuRAM PC3200
Generic PSU : 3.3v : 28a, 5v: 30a
EVGA Nvidia Geforce 5950 Ultra 256 MB
Seagate 200GB 7200 RPM Hard drive
Lite-on DVD/CDRW Combo burner
Any ideas? I've been dismantling this thing and rebuilding it over and over for about a week now, and nothing has changed. I get the reboots all the time, graphic-intensive and not. I've even had the machine freeze up in the BIOS menu before. Help me please!!!

Quote from: sickfallout on 19-May-05, 02:38:49
Alright, thanks a lot guys for all your help!
Hi there..
I'm not sure if you have fixed the problem or not.....but i have the same board and my pc reboot maybe one or two times a day...
and i'm sure it is my Ram, and i also use 2x512mb Kingston Value pc3200
i have tried with 2x512mb crucial pc3200 from my other pc and then there is no problem...
ps. I haven't been writing in english for a long time.

Msi kt6 delta lsr temp problem?

i have just installed a msi kt6 delta lsr , but when i have ran the system a while the sys temp is around 40-42 c and the cpu temp is around 52c .
on my old mobo the temps never went above 35c for the cpu and 25c for the sys temp .
my specs for old mobo etc =
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+
jetway v400db (kt400 chipset)
400w psu
ata133 80gb hd (maxtor)
512 ddr333
geforce fx5800 ultra
windows me (but same in win xp pro)
2 fans blowing air into case and 2 sucking air out
does anybody know a way to improve the temps please

Yippee! A ME user, like me! You know I guess MS support for W98 and ME has been prolonged til 2006? It has partly to do with Linux.
The temperature for the CPU is a little high, but not alarmingly so. Barton gets a little bit hotter on these boards, and I think it is the placing belovw the PSU that is the cause. The system temperature for you is no problem.
To get the warmth away from the CPU I suggest a fan placed in the case door/side, that sucks it out.
Perhaps you have not got such a case door? Then I suggest a quiet 80 mm fan on the back of the case as high as possible, again sucking air out in order to make a nice air flow. Another suggestion is to tie away cabling to the sides of the case as much as possible, power cables, IDE cables etc.

[nForce] K7N2 delta ilsr doesnt post

I am using this mother board with ati radeon 9000 for 2 years. Today i bought a new msi rx9550 video card
I installed it and power up but it didnt post
no signal and no boot
i put on the old radeon 9000 and i booted without any problem
new 9550 works fine on another computer with old psu
any suggestions ?

no signal no post
fans spins hdd and power light are ok
i tried it with a good psu today no way it doenst post
i also updated the mobos bios with modded bios version which i found in this forum
i tried with asus and sapphire 9550 cards and no boot again
but it boots with radeon 9000
i also tried a cooler master psu with 18A 12v rail but nope
it does not post with any radeon 9550 cards
i removed all psu connections to hdd dvd ect and only let mobos connection
no boot again
in the bios agp voltages seems to be shift between 1.5 1.6 and 1.7
no 0.8 for agp 8x
might it be a problem?
I am realy disappointed with this mobo
i bought it 2 years ago because i tought this mobo can be used for long years
heh
I am desperetaly seeking your suggestions
my computer:
msi k7n2 delta ilsr mobo
2x256 oem ram
80gb seagate sata
40 gb seage ide
64mb ati radeon 9000 video card
amd athlon xp 1800+ cpu
msi dvd rom
nec dvd writer
and an psu with 4pin 12v rail

[nForce] K7N2 delta-l + Corsair 2*256 3200c2 = cl2.5 ?????

Hi!
My english is not perfect .
I have a problem, could anyone help me please?
I have a mobo: k7n2 delta-l, and a bought 2 pairs of Corsair 256 3200c2 ram, whis came with cl2.
But CL2 don't work in my mobo. CL2.5 works.
My friend told me, i have to set ddram voltage to 2.8, but my mobo's highest value is 2.7 .
What should i set in bios?
Any ideas? THX.

There isn't any freezes @ 200 MHz. I tried it with prime95, before i bought the 2 Corsair Rams with two 333mhz rams. And by CL2,5 ( with Corsairs ) there isn't any freezes too.
My friend told me, ( he had Corsairs in Abit NF7 (nforce2) and he had no problems with 5-3-3-2 @ 2,8V ), i have to set the memory voltage to 2,8V. But my mobo's max. voltage is 2,7.
Is there a big difference between 6-3-3-2 and 6-3-3-2,5 ?

K7n2 delt ilsr instabilty problem update

have a k7n2 delta ilsr have an issue where it is unstalble ie get bsod at welcom etc at 400 fsb ie 200 setting in bios will run at 166 in safe mode the 3200 cpu is reconised as at 2.39 ghz it should be 2.2 ghz if i run cpucz it says the multiplier is *12 is this a motherbord fault have updated bios too 7.8 latesed have tried diff make of memory power supply but i think the problem is looking me in the face in the fact that the cpu is reconised as 2.39 ghz and the muilt is *12 i think it should be * 11 can any body help regards bazer

yes has latesd bios    AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ here is some info pc wizard 2005
Codename :   Barton
Revision :   A2
Technology :   0.13µ
CPU ID :   6.A.0
CPU IDEx :   7.A.0
Features :
VME - Virtual Mode Ext. :   Yes
DE - Debugging Extension :   Yes
PSE - Page Size Extension :   Yes
TSC - Time Stamp Counter :   Yes
MSR - Model Specific Registers :   Yes
PAE - Physical Address Extension :   Yes
MCE - Machine Check Exception :   Yes
APIC - Local APIC Built-in :   Yes
SEP - Fast System Call :   Yes
MTRR - Memory Type Range Reg. :   Yes
PGE - Page Global Enable :   Yes
MCA - Machine Check Architecture :   Yes
PAT - Page Attribute Table :   Yes
PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Extension :   Yes
PSN - Unique Serial Number :   No
DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store :   No
ACPI - Software Clock Control :   No
SS - Self Snoop :   No
TM - Thermal Monitor :   No
HTT - Hyper-Threading :   No
SBF - Signal Break on FERR :   No
MON - Monitor/Mwait :   No
DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug Store :   No
TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 :   No
CID - Context ID :   No
EST - Enhanced SpeedStep Tec...   No
NX Bit - No-execute Page Protec...   No
VMX - Vanderpool Technology :   No
Miscellaneous :
FPU - Co-processor Built-in :   Yes
CX8 - CMPXCHG8B :   Yes
CX16 - CMPXCHG16B :   No
CMOV - Conditionnal Move Inst. :   Yes
CLF - Cache Line Flush :   No
FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore :   Yes
DAZ - Denormals Are Zero :   No
MMX Technology :   Yes
SSE Technology :   Yes
SSE2 Technology :   No
SSE3 Technology :   No
X86-64 Technology :   No
AMD MMX Technology :   Yes
3DNow! Technology :   Yes
Extended 3DNow! Technology :   Yes
3DNow! Pro Technology :   Yes
SMP - MP Capability :   No
Power Status :
Voltage Control :   No
Frequency Control :   No
Thermal Sensor Built-in :   Yes
Addressing Information :
Physical Addressing max. :   34-bit
Linear Addressing max. :   32-bit
Mainboard Upgradebility :
Socket/Slot :   Socket A
Upgrade interface :   ZIF Socket
Supported Speed :   2200 MHz (or more)
Supported Voltage :   1.6V
al Information :
Performance Rating :   PR-3300 (estimated)
Real Frequency :   2164.89 MHz
Multiplier :   12x
Front Side Bus Information :
FSB Frequency :   180.4 MHz
Bus Speed :   360.8 MHz (DDR)
Initial Frequencies :
Frequency :   2000 MHz
FSB Frequency :   166 MHz
Control Clock Frequency :
Type :   None
Thermal Information :
Core Power :   63.42 W (estimated)
Resistance :   0.46 °C/W (estimated)
Processor Performance Information :
Throttle Mode AC :   None
Throttle Mode DC :   Adaptive
Current Configuration :   None
Throttle :   2164 MHz
CPU Throttle Temperature :   60°C
CPU Shutdown Temperature :   100°C
eneral Information :
A0 (RAS 0) :   256 (Single Bank)
A1 (RAS 2) :   256 (Single Bank)
A2 :   Empty
Memory Controller Information :
Memory Controller :   Standard, EDO
Number of connectors :   3
Max. Module Size :   32 MB
Max. Memory Size :   96 MB
Supported Speed :   70ns, 60ns
Supported Voltages :   5v
Error Detection Method :   8-bit Parity
Error Correction Capability :   Unspecified
Current/Supported Interleave :   1-way/1-way
Chipset Information :
Type :   DDR-SDRAM PC2900
Frequency :   180 MHz
FSB/RAM Multiplier :   1/1x
Channels :   Dual
ECC Diagnostic :   No
CAS Latency (tCL) :   3 clocks
RAS to CAS (tRCD) :   3 clocks
RAS Precharge (tRP) :   3 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) :   8 clocks
Information SPD EEPROM (A0) :
Manufacturer :   Samsung
Part Number :   M3 68L3223ETM-CCC
Serial Number :   F6016243
Type :   DDR-SDRAM PC3200 (200 MHz)
Size :   256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Buffered :   No
Module Registered :   No
Width :   64-bit
Error Correction Capability :   No
Max. Burst Length :   8
Refresh :   Reduced (.5x)7.8 µs, Self Refresh
Voltage :   SSTL 2.5v
Supported Frequencies :   166 MHz, 200 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) :   2.5 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) :   3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) :   3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) :   7 clocks @166 MHz, 8 clocks @200 MHz
Information SPD EEPROM (A1) :
Manufacturer :   Samsung
Part Number :   M3 68L3223ETM-CCC
Serial Number :   F6056193
Type :   DDR-SDRAM PC3200 (200 MHz)
Size :   256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Buffered :   No
Module Registered :   No
Width :   64-bit
Error Correction Capability :   No
Max. Burst Length :   8
Refresh :   Reduced (.5x)7.8 µs, Self Refresh
Voltage :   SSTL 2.5v
Supported Frequencies :   166 MHz, 200 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) :   2.5 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) :   3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) :   3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) :   7 clocks @166 MHz, 8 clocks @200 MHz

Mystery Device on K7N2 Delta L in problem state

I have the k7n2 delta L motherboard with an athlon xp 2800+ processor and I'm running windows 2000 pro sp4. In the device manager under "system devices" I have a device listed as "motherboard resources" with a yellow exclamation symbol and the properties indicate code 14 restart computer to get the device to work properly. I've done this to no avail and also reinstalled the drivers from the msi cd. The properties say its on the pci bus and uses input/output range 0060-0060 and 0064-0064. It also indicates driver version 5.0.2195.6717. What is this device and how do I get it to work?

Got a clue from German forum, I'll quote:
- Fixed the exclamation point under Motherboard Resources of Device manager in Windows XP when use USB keyboard/mouse and set as "Support via BIOS".
So I checked the driver for the keyboard and it was version 5.0.2195.6717 same as the "motherboard resource" with "!" . So more details: the keyboard I was using for my new system was my old compaq presario usb keyboard with funky "easy acess keys". And I had usb keyboard support enabled in bios. So I shut down, removed the keyboard and replaced it with a standard ps/2 keyboard and rebooted. And voila the motherboard resource no longer had a "!" next to it. Anyway since it wasn't causing a fatal problem I'm back to using the compaq keyboard until I get another standard boring biege ps/2 keyboard. I'm glad I didn't go on a vmware goose chase.
athlon xp 2800+
k7n2-L
2×512MB PNY PC2700 333MHz Dual channel mode
geforce fx 5200 agp
maxtor 120GB 133 7200rpm
us robotics 56k v92 controller based modem
IEEE 1394 firewire card 3+1
startech 300w PS (ap-350x)

[nForce] K7N2 Delta Premium stuck at Chipset Initialisation

Hi there, I'm new to these boards, how do you all do?
As stated in the subject I'm having trouble with a new K7N2 Delta Premium which is stuck at Chipset Initialisation. I'm not going to write out a long explenation here as I have been battling with this for a week and I have a thread in another forum where lots has already been discussed. Hopefully it will save time in people suggesting stuff that's already been tried etc. Here's the link.
Thanks in Advance,
Matt

Sorry Richard but it had been a long day and I just wanted to get a quick post in before going to bed and hopefully some answers by morning.
I'll hold back on the sig for the moment if you don't mind as I haven't yet got a working PC with an MSI board and am using components swapped, borrowed and thieved from other PCs so to list it all probably wouldn't fit
Here's a list of everything I've used so far.
AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+
AMD Athlon 800
ASRock K7-Upgrade
MSI K7N2-Delta Premium
2*256MB PC2700 (Generic)
2*512MB PC2700 Kingston Value RAM (Sourced from an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe based PC with an AMD Sempron 2800+)
GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB
Radeon 9600Pro 256MB (Sourced from an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe based PC with an AMD Sempron 2800+)
120GB IDE HDD
Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM
Lite-On 32x CD-RW
Asus TV FM Card
300W PSU (Spare) (3.3V = 15A, 5V = 35A, 12V = 11A)
350W PSU (Original)
350W TaurusX PSU (3.3v = 20A, 5V = 33A, 12V = 18A) (Sourced from an ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe based PC with an AMD Sempron 2800+)
Any combination of all the above components produces the same result, all items power up and the motherboard stays in Chipset Initialisation mode. All components have been tested and are known to work in other PCs (namely the ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe based one) except the 2 motherboards and CPUs.
Now for a slightly condensed version of all my posts from the other Forum:
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On monday I turned the PC (configured using the ASRock mobo, Athlon XP-M, Ti4200, Generic RAM and 350W PSU) and it booted to the welcome screen fine except I had no response from my keyboard and mouse. Being wireless models I scanned for a different channel but no luck so I tried the reset switch on my case. The computer began to boot and nothing happened. The monitor wouldn't come on and the PC just sat there with the HD light stuck on.
I left it and took the PC to work the next day (I work in an IT department so could 'borrow' a few spares to try out). At work I swaped out the graphics card (it's hadn't been initialising properly when I used drivers other than those that came with windows, stuck at 4 colours at 640*480) for an FX 5200, no change. I swapped the graphics cards back and took out a stick of RAM, no change. I swapped the two RAM sticks around and the PC booted, great, I thought, faulty memory, at least it works I'll buy a replacement the weekend.
Took the PC home and turned it on again, same problem as before. I tried swapping both sticks of RAM in and out as well as re-seating the graphics card, no change. I tried the RAM and graphics card in another PC and it booted fine so I thought, dead mobo.
Today I go to the local computer fair and buythe MSI mobo. I reinstall everything and turn the PC on, same as before, only the diagnostic LEDs tell me the board is stuck in 'chipset initialisation mode'. I try chopping and changing the RAM again and try the Radeon from one of my other PCs, no change. Wonderful, I now have the feeling that my lovely 2 week old XP-M 2200+ that I hadn't had a chance to play with yet has broken so I swap it out for the Athlon 800. Hallelujah the PC boots first time and I go straight into the BIOS. I check all the settings and enable/disable the onboard peripherals I do/don't want/need. Restart the PC and it's back into Chipset Initialisation mode again. Doh! So I know think I messed up on the BIOS settings somewhere so I reset it, no change. I reset it again (this time removing the battery from the board as well as unplugging the mains and setting the jumper), no change. I try swapping out the RAM and graphics card again, still no luck.
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All my testing is performed on the desk for my second PC which uses a standard MS wired desktop.
I've tried pairing the PC down to just CPU, RAM, graphics card. When the PC was first tried with the XP-M 2200+ and the MSI board I even tried it with just a Graphics card and with just RAM, same result.
All components apart from the CPUs and TV Tuner have been swapped out with components in another PC and that PC booted with each one of them in and is still booting now.
Tommorrow I'll try the TaurusX PSU and try the board layed out on the table and see how it goes.
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I've tried swapping the power supply and it still wouldn't boot. On a whim I removed a memory stick, yes it booted. I left the pc for a while sat in the BIOS and all was good. I took the risk and swapped the CPU for the better XP-M 2200+. This booted first time too, infact it booted with both memory sticks in. Great, it was a dodgy power supply, except that power supply is now in the ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe PC I was robbing parts from and working fine.
After leaving the PC sat in the BIOS HW monitor for a while watching CPU temps I decided to restart and get on with installing windows. Doh! back to chipset initialisation mode again
Next step..... try it out of the case on my dining room table.
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I've now tried the MSI motherboard on my desk (wooden) with just the XP-M 2200+, Ti4200, Kingston Memory, hard drive and Diagnostic LED bracket connected. It results in the same problem (and this is with yet another power supply to the previous two being used, the 300W one) as well as the TaurusX PSU, the PC sits at Chipset initialisation stage.
Some more info for you. Whilst researching a problem on a PC at work (uses a K7N2 board), I found people stating that the nForce2 chipset has problems with certain types of memory (news to me, I've got two other nForce2 based PCs both A7N8X-E Deluxes). So I decided to try yet again to boot one of my other PCs with this memory, both dimms managed so fine. I also decided to run a proper overnight memtest on the dimms indivdually, the first one went almost 8 hours and 56 tests with no errors, the second one had done one test by the time I left for work this morning, again no problems.
I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here and am simply running out of ideas. All that I can think to do now is try both the XP-M 2200+ and Athlon 800 CPUs in one of my working nForce2 PCs (which I am reluctant to do cos I'm idle).
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OK, another update. Got home about quarter to 2 and the second 256MB DIMM had gone through 50 tests without errors so the memory is fine (and is fine with nForce2 mobos as that's what I tested in).
I've used two different keyboard and mouse sets, the wired one on my second PC and the wireless one (which also works conected up to my second PC). No difference, the system is barely getting far enough to even think about keyboard and mouse. Hell it's not even getting far enough to complain about missing memory or graphics card.
I still don't have any real idea as to why the first motherboard 'failed' like it did anyway and the only two components that I can't completely rule out are the CPUs and motherboards. I do have an Athlon XP 2800+ with what appears to be a cracked core (though oddly enough the PC always booted with it installed, it was just highly unstable with lots of memory errors) that I could try if I really felt like it.
I haven't tried the 'cracked' XP 2800+ yet and I'm about to try the ASRock motherboard with the Athlon 800 again. As I've said in the quotes above, I'm completely dry when it comes to ideas now and am hoping an MSI specific forum might be able to help me more.

[nForce] K7n2 delta 2lsr

I have this motherboard (K7N2 Delta 2 LSR) and a friend build my computer and put 2 hard drives(one master and one slave) and 2 optical drive on the same ribbon connect to IDE 1. i was wonder should change this. maybe use the IDE 2. if so what should i put there and how do i do this without destroying my computer. Should i change some with the BIOS or CMOS.
Please explain you would to a non tech person(because i'm)
thanks
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Hi, welcome to the fourm.
In general your system will work best with the two HDD's as master and slave ono IDE1 and the opticals on IDE2 (burner as master if you have a burner). Make sure the jumpers on all four drives are set correctly to their positions. Then when you start up, go into BIOS and see if all four drives are correctly identified. No need to clear CMOS. Good luck.

K7N2 Delta ILSR memory problem

I have a K7N2 Delta ILSR board with Athlon XP 2500 with 2 Gig of Mushkin Black Line ram (the ones that are
suppose to be CL2). I change the FSB to 200, and my memory won't run at CL2. Want to raise the Dram voltage
to 2.8V to see if it would make a difference. I looked all over this site for the modded bios 7.8. Does anyone
have the modded bios??? Any help would be appreciated.......

He/She overclocked the 2500+, to make it become a 3200+. Done it myself, but it mostly works with the first step of the 2500+. - That means the overclock forum.
Well, CAS 2 is a very tight timing, which I don't think is possible. In general on Socket A systems:
- FSB 133/266 --> CAS 2 or 2.5
- FSB 166/333 --> CAS 2.5
- FSB 200/400 --> CAS 3

[nForce] K7N2 Delta@ LSR stability problem

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