Nightblade Z97 Questions..

Hello All,
I bought the nightblade z97 yesterday and am very happy with it but I have a few questions.
1. The manual, website and internet says that there is an optional 3500rpm tower cooler. Google never fails but this time it did.. I cannot find this accessory anywhere. I called MSI directly and the rep had no idea what I was talking about... Where can I buy one?
2. Side optional case fan.. Pictures everywhere show that this fan should be pushing air out of the case. Typically the side fan sucks air in.. What's the real answer? in or out the case? Asked MSI rep about this as well and got the "I think it goes out" answer. I'm sorry but "I think" is not good enough.
3. Again, pictures show that there is red accent lighting on the handle area. Mine does not have this. Is it another option? If so, where can I get one?
Thanks all!

1. Water cooling- Astek/545LC
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=252670.0
a. Please contact your nearest MSI branch office or local distributors to buy it.
b. on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asetek-545LC-92mm-Performance-Liquid-CPU-Cooler-/271088154066
2. It is out the case and is special design for Nightblade Z97.
Side fan and back fan are out the case. (Hot air is up.)
cooling holes is under this system and it is in this case that is why the system with handle bar and must be standed.
Please check the cooling with a dragon fan for Nightblade Z97 on MSI website:
http://www.msi.com/product/desktop/Nightblade-Z97.html#hero-overview
3. Plesae press OC button for turn on the OC function and then power on the system.
Then the light will be on. It is not a optional.

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>>How to contact MSI.<<

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Dear Sir or Madam,
I'm MSI Nightblade Z97 owner.
Why there is no utility and BIOS support for Nightblade Z97 ?
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We don't suggest the behaviour.
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I managed to install the latest BIOS (version 1.90) for the MSI Nightblade Z97 days ago without any problems. Still curious about the MSI Z97i Gaming BIOS so I tried installing it via a bootable flash drive. Unfortunately, the BIOS file cannot be installed as it's not even recognized. So you can only install a BIOS customized for the Nightblade even if the Nightblade motherboard itself is labeled as MSI Z97i Gaming motherboard.

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According to the spec available >>HERE<<:
1. Card is of dimensions: 242x111x38 mm and this desktop: Quote
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2. Quote
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1. The specifications may differ from areas and we keep the right to change without notice. Please check the specific specification with your local dealers.
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maybe Nightblade B85 or Z97 is suitable for me, but is it have wireless network?
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http://www.msi.com/product/desktop/Nightblade-Z97.html#hero-overview
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Quote from: Abula on 19-May-14, 08:22:10
What you are seeing is mulitple breakpoints of temperature, as you do on your AsRock.
I own a Z87GD65, and in mine i only have 1 true breakpoints, which is the temperature in which you want the fans to speed up, according to the temperature of the cpu. I als did a build for a friend on a Z77GD43 and it was similar just didnt had the graph, as it has on the Z87GD65 nor the new one that you posted on the Z97 Gaming7, but what i see is more customization on the new motherboard, with 4 different breaking points, i see the same restrictions on the PWM %, increments of 12.5% as it is on my GD65, weather its worth it, personally i dont care, one is good enough for me, i usually just spin down my fans to the lowest i can, and set the breakpoints for the temperature i want my fans to spin up, if the temperature is reach they will increase gradually, defined by the max PWM % and max temperature, this two variables (that you can change) will make the graph with more or less inclination. In the new Z97 Gaming 7, seems the same just multiple breakpoints, meaning you can have different inclinations into how the fans react depending on the temperature, weather its worth it or not.... depends on the level of customization you want to the fan control, personally im fine with a single, but i can see people that could like having depending on their needs, personally what i would have loved though, is to give me 10% increments instead of 12.5%, or 5% would been better, but 12.5% just seems odd number imo.
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Quote from: Speancer on 05-July-14, 03:16:00
Yeah, but what I ment was:
Quote from: asphyxia
mine is 40-41c, something is wrong and i got same motherboard
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What's your Core / TMPIN3 / PECI temps with the CPU running in Turbo mode (4.4 GHz)?
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Quote from: Chike on 27-March-15, 09:23:57
Although the table refer to CrossFire/SLI configuration you should still follow those rules when installing any kind of cards.
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Yes! This is what I was getting at...but I forgot to quote the following part (that confused me):
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The table below shows the correlation between the PCIe slots bandwidth and multiple graphics cards.
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