Nikon D4 and v2, 3&4 beta profiles

Does anyone know how to get the Camera v2, v3 and v4 beta profiles to work on Nikon D4 raw files using Lr4? Camera profiles D2x mode 1 through 3, versions 2 through 4 beta were all absolutely integral in my Lr3 work flow when using my Nikon D3.
Any information would greatly be appreciated.
Lr4 shows all these profiles in the profile dropdown menu when viewing D3 raw files. When viewing D4 raw files, those same profiles don’t show up.

The profiles don't show up for tow reasons v2,3,4, etc are updates of the original D3 profiles while the D4 has only the current (new) profile. Each camera has it's own profiles so D3 profiles do not apply to D4's.
Second Nikon does not use the D2X profiles in the D4 so Adobe cannot replicate them like they did for cameras that had D2X settings.

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New Nikon D3 and D700 "Camera" v2 beta profiles

Over in the Camera Raw forums, I have posted a zip file containing updated "Camera" color profiles (Camera Standard, Camera Neutral, etc.) for the Nikon D3 and Nikon D700, along with some release notes. That thread is here:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/602274

Here are some sample pics, as requested, processed with Camera Standard original and V2. They show the more contrasty highlight rendering. Switching to "linear" tone curve doesn't quite tone the highlights down enough.
I noticed the steeper tone curve in the V2 profile seems to result in somewhat more desaturated colors too. I tried to show this in the 3rd image, but may be hard to tell. It it as if you took an image in Photoshop and added a slighty S-curve, but only on the luminosity channel (e.g. make adjustment curves layer, set blending mode -> luminosity).

New Nikon D3, D300, and D700 "Camera" v3 beta profiles

Hi everyone,
I have posted a zip file containing updated "Camera" color profiles (Camera Standard, Camera Neutral, etc.) for the Nikon D3, Nikon D300, and Nikon D700. The zip file contains a copy of the readme, but I'll post it here for convenience, too:
For lack of a better name, I am calling these "v3" beta profiles.
BETA RELEASE NOTES
Overview
These updated Camera v3 beta profiles for the Nikon D3, Nikon D300, and Nikon D700 are designed to reduce banding and highlight color artifacts. They also address the "too bright" tone curve issues with the previous "v2" version of the D3 and D700 profiles.
IMPORTANT NOTE: When using these v3 beta profiles, if you wish to match the default tonality of Nikon's Picture Controls (e.g., match View NX / Capture NX), you must set the Exposure slider in Camera Raw / Lightroom to -0.5.
Of course, feel free to adjust Exposure to make your image brighter or darker as you like. But in terms of matching Nikon's default tonality, you must set the Exposure slider to -0.5, or the default will be too bright.
For workflow convenience, you can use presets in Camera Raw / Lightroom to take care of both (e.g., simultaneously set the profile to "Camera Standard" and set Exposure to -0.5).
Installation
If you are on Mac OS X, drag the "Camera v3 beta" folder to:
    /Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles
If you are on Windows XP, drag the "Camera v3 beta" folder to:
    C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
If you are on Windows Vista or Windows 7, drag the "Camera v3 beta" folder to:
    C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
Note that the above path on Windows Vista and Windows 7 may be hidden by default. Check your folder settings.
Feedback
The profiles are currently in beta status. Please provide feedback via the online Adobe user-to-user forums here:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/cameraraw
http://forums.adobe.com/community/lightroom
Thank you!

Vit Novak wrote:
It's because ACR assumes that exposure slider at 0 actually means exposure correction of +0.5 EV for this camera model, so with expsure slider at 0, upper 0.5 EV of histogram is clipped
If this bothers you, there is a workaround - convert NEF to DNG, then change BaselineExposure tag in a dng from 0.5 to 0. There are several utilities for this
Or wait for some future version of ACR where this will be solved
The BaselineExposure used by the DNG spec and ACR can complicate ETTR exposure. A uniformly lit surface, when exposed as determined by the standard ISO light meter, should result in 0.18/sqrt(2) or 12.7% saturation of the sensor according to the ISO 12232 saturation standard. This is the standard used by DXO and it allows 0.5 EV highlight headroom. For ETTR exposure, no (or minimum) headroom is desired and mid-gray (18% reflection) is 2.5 stops below 100%.
For example, I exposed a gray card according to the camera light meter reading with the Nikon D3. The resulting 12 bit data number was 497 and the saturation is 497/4095 = 12.1 % saturation, which is very close to the expected value of 12.7%, confirming that the light meter and sensor are properly calibrated. The corresponding pixel value in 8 bit sRGB is 99.8 as shown.
The raw file can be rendered into sRGB with in camera processing or Nikon NX2, which closely approximates in camera processing. With the Standard Picture Control, the camera sRGB value is 150. This is a hot tone curve and the a highlight with 100% reflectance would be clipped. The table below shows the results with ACR and various presets. If one uses the Adobe Standard camera profile, the sRGB value is 162 rather than the expected 99.8 Other combinations are shown. To get the proper value for mid-gray one must use a linear tone curve (sliders on main tab set to zero and a linear point curve) and an exposure correction of -0.5 EV to compensate for the +0.5 EV BaselineExposure. With no exposure correction and a linear TRC, the sRGB value would be 116, very close to the calculated sRGB value of 117 for mid-gray (18%). However, the linear TRC gives a flat appearing image.
The take home point is that if you use Adobe Standard with no exposure compensation with ETTR, your images will appear overexposed and lead to cutting back on the camera expoure. The raw file highlights will have values well under sensor saturation.

Harsh transitions to highlights in D3 and D700 beta profiles

I apologize if this is the wrong forum!
I've noticed that the beta profiles to emulate Nikon picture modes give very sharp transitions into blown highlights. The Adobe modes are better in this respect. Has anyone else noticed this? Otherwise, I really like the profiles. If there's a way I can fix it in the profile editor, I'm open to suggestions.
Here is an example from the D3:
Adobe Beta
Beta of Nikon's Standard

fixed point, I'll take a look at this. But in the meantime, try using the DNG Profile Editor with the following steps.
In Color Tables tab, select "Choose External Profile..." from the Base Profile popup. Then navigate to the folder containing the D3/D700 Standard beta profile and select it.
Then in Tone Curve tab, select Camera Raw Default from the Base Tone Curve menu.
Then go to File menu and choose "Export Nikon D3 profile..." (or "Export Nikon D700 profile...")
This will give you smoother highlights but the overall tonality will be a little brighter the Nikon picture controls.

I downloaded Lightroom version 5.7 in order to support tethered capture on my Nikon D750 and its still not working. Additionally when I was prompted to give my serial number for the update it was no where to be found on my Adobe profile although I purchas

I downloaded Lightroom version 5.7 in order to support tethered capture on my Nikon D750 and its still not working. Additionally when I was prompted to give my serial number for the update it was no where to be found on my Adobe profile although I purchased, and am paying monthly for my creative cloud for photography. Please help

Does your Cloud subscription properly show on your account page?
If you have more than one email, are you sure you are using the correct Adobe ID?
https://www.adobe.com/account.html for subscriptions on your Adobe page
If yes
Some general information for a Cloud subscription
Cloud programs do not use serial numbers... you log in to your paid Cloud account to download & install & activate... you MAY need to log out of the Cloud and restart your computer and log back in to the Cloud for things to work
Log out of your Cloud account... Restart your computer... Log in to your paid Cloud account
-Sign in help http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/account-password-sign-faq.html
-http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/sign-in-out-creative-cloud-desktop-app.html
-http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/activation-network-issues.html
-http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/trial--1-launch.html
-ID help https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?step=ZNA_id-signing_stillNeedHelp
-http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/license-this-software.html
If no
This is an open forum, not Adobe support... you need Adobe staff to help
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Help with Nikon D600 NEF files, CS6, and ACR 7.3 beta

I have been unable to open NEF files from my Nikon D600 in Photoshop CS6, and ACR 7.3 beta. Any suggestions/guidance would be much appreciated.
RAW was set to 14 bit color, but I can't see that that would matter?

From discussion with others, it would appear that the files were corrupted during transfer.
I have some suggestions that I will try tomorow.
I have no problems opening old Nikon D700 NEF files in Photoshop CS6, and when ACR opens the file it indicates I'm using ACR 7.3 beta.
Regards,
Erich

Tried to get rid of Beta profiles...and....well...

One of them is still there...Beta 1. But Beta 2 is gone and so are all the new ones that came with LR2.2.
Lightroom works fine, but in my haste to get rid of the old profiles I got rid of any folder that was marked for CS or earlier LR's or anything labeled Camera Raw since with LR I don't need ACR.
Who would have thought that camera profiles for Lightroom would be in folder marked "Camera Raw"?
Anyone suggest how I can bring in the new profiles without having to reload everything? Or even can I?

Reinstall Lightroom 2.2 to get the new profiles back
Details of where beta profiles can be found are provided at
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2008/12/lightroom_22_no.html

I just bought the Nikon D750 and my raw files will not open in CC Photoshop. Is anyone else that has this camera experienced this problem?

I just bought the Nikon D750 and my raw files will not open in CC Photoshop. Is anyone else that has this camera experienced this problem?
My Photoshop says it is up to date, but I am hoping that since this camera just came out, Adobe will have an raw file update soon.

DNG Converter is FREE. Yes, really. No subscription needed.
- Baloney, NOT FREE, it's a proprietary software, not open AT ALL, see Legal Notices, so stop trying to distort the truth here.
Camera Raw (& DNG Converter) 8.7RC has been available since 2nd October, and opens D750 files in Photoshop & Bridge (& Lightroom using DNG Converter).
Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw 8.7 Release Candidate | digital camera raw file support - Adobe Labs
- Still a cumbersome process for this of us that PAID for software and support, the whole point of this discussion is to implement this directly on LR, so we, the PAYING users don't have to waste time doing a useless process that could be EASILY AVOIDED ig Adobe released updates as they are needed, or if they OPENED THE SOURCE CODE so the community could do it.
Adobe created DNG, which is a well-documented backwards-compatible format, which is free for any manufacturer to use.
See here for manufacturers who do (it's an old list, but you get the idea):
http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/articles/dng/products_cameras.htm
- Really? Did you actually read the site? It has PRECIOUS information that illustrate my point: Adobe DNG is an attempt to stop the OpenSource community from achieving the goals of OpenRaw, which is TRUE OPENNESS, Again, Adobe is trying to get manufacturers to PAY LICENSING so they use a PROPRIETARY FORMAT that will HOLD CUSTOMERS on a PAID platform. OpenRaw is he answer for a true competitive environment.
Ask yourself why other manufacturers don't use a documented backwards-compatible format.
- Easy, because they are lazy and want kick-back. The SAME answer that I (and the entire OS community) would give if you asked about Acrobat or MS Office.
If you use a particular piece of software as your main tool, and you buy a camera which isn't yet supported by it, it's your problem. There is an expression used in the industry:
"Poor Planning on your part does not constitute an Emergency on my part."
- I agree here, it's MY PROBLEM that I decided to have a better product, it was my choice. I can still use OS Tools, which will be what I do moving forward, and about that expression, that is EXACTLY why Adobe will keep loosing customers, because the sense of urgency to help who pays their bills is inexistent. You are correct, why should they rush something so simple to help a customer right? Screw the customer... Thanks for making my point...

LR4 White Balance Numbers Differ w/ Nikon D4 and D3s

I've noticed that LR interprets the white balance settings differently for my raw .nef files coming from my Nikon D3s and D4 bodies; even when a specific kelvin temp is chosen in camera.
Here's a few examples:
D4 flash WB, LR shows as 6150, +2
D3s flash WB, LR shows as 6400, +9
D4 WB set to 5k, LR reads as 4750, +1
D3s WB set to 5k, LR reads as 4900, +10
Any thoughts on why this is happening, and what (if anything) I should do to get xxxx kelvin temp in camera to import as xxxx kelvin temp in LR?

Eric Chan, senior designer of LR/ACR wrote:
Quote:
The white balance readout in terms of temperature & tint depends on the camera profile (more specifically, the translation between so-called "camera neutral" values and temperature/tint values). Different raw converters use different profiles. This results in different readouts, even if image appearance is the same.
The process of reporting white balance values is non-standardized.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/fo...2#msg411522%29
Raw converters, whether in the camera or in a computer, do not deal with color temperatures, they deal with multipliers applied to the red and blue channels. But because representing a WB as a pair of multiplier values would be mystifying for most users, the GUI translates those numbers into the corresponding color temperature that the WB will neutralize, a concept more familiar to most photograhers. When "As Shot" is set in the converter it reads from the image file metadata the mutipliers listed there and applies them. However, the WB multipliers are applied after the camera profile and since different converters use different profiles with differing renderings of the basic color values, the post-WB image values are different, even though the same multipliers are used, and the corresponding Kelvin temperature is different.
Now, what happens when you dial a temperature into your camera? The firmware calculates what multipliers will be needed in combination with the Nikon profile in order to neutralize light of that color. Then it records the multipliers in the metadata and, if outputting a jpg, applies them. But if you output a Raw, LR reads the multipliers and does the reverse calculation, "What temperature will be neutralized if these multipliers are used with an Adobe profile?" and does not come back to the same temperature that you set in the camera.
Different cameras = different profiles = different temperatures.

Nikon P7700 not listed in the camera profile directory

Why is the Nikon P7700 not listed in the camera profile dirctory of Lightroom 4.2, and not selectable in calibration menu?

Just to clarify again, what has already been stated. There IS a calibration profile for your camera. The name of that profile is Adobe Standard. The only profiles that display are profiles for the specific model that took the picture. Every camera that Adobe supports, even the digital SLR cameras, has an Adobe Standard profile. That is the "standard" profile that Adobe created for the camera. A camera will either be supported and have at least a profile with that name, or it will not be supported at all.
Asking when the other profiles will be provided is futile. I can only guess, but the answer will probably be, never. If you want to create additional profiles you can download the DNG Profile Creator and create your own. But I suspect you are getting all that you're going to get from Adobe. I have a Fuji camera, an older one, and I have three Adobe Standard profiles for it. Two of them are designated with numbers corresponding to older versions of ACR/Lightroom.

Need Better Profiles for HP B9180

Hi all,
Like others, I find that my HP Photosmart Pro B9180 produces prints that are 20-30% darker than the image on my calibrated monitor. I am running CS3 on my Mac OSX Leopard system. I am trying to print on HP's Advanced Photo Glossy paper.
My color settings are along the lines of those recommended by Scott Kelby (Adobe RGB workspace and prolife; and I allow PS CS3 manage colors and not the printer).
I've experimented with other printer profiles provided by HP, but nothing delivers a good print. Has anyone found a good ICC profile that will work with this printer/paper combination?
Thanks, in advance, for any help you can offer.
Best,
Tracy S.

Ok, you caught the typo. I actually went back to his book to find the proper page citation to support my statement, until I realized you were having a bit of fun. Just so the record is clear, I have no knowledge as to whether Mr. Kelby is or is not prolife.
Anyway, on to your advice....
"You need to calibrate and profile your particular monitor, then use the resulting profile as your MONITOR PROFILE. (DEVICE DEPENDENT.)"
Did that, as I mentioned in my original post.
"Finally, your target profile has to be a specifically calibrated profile for the particular combination of paper, ink and printer. (DEVICE DEPENDENT)."
Yes, that is the essence of my message in which I am asking for assistance in locating a better ICC profile for my printer (HP B9180) and paper (HP Advanced Photo Glossy) combination. The stock ICC profile from HP is generating poor results. Short of printing off target sheets and sending out for a customized profile, I thought I would see if anyone else has tumbled to a better profile. Others have encountered a similar color and tonal shift in their prints using the same set up as me, so someone may be able to point me in the right direction.
Also, I did review the site to which you directed me. As Mr. Ballard points out:
"The problems users have with Photoshop, and color managed applications are:
1) They break the Color Management System CMS, by attempting to turn it off -- when in fact they can't!
See: Turn Color Management on And Honor my Embedded Profile, Please gballard.net
2) They have bad profiles...."
My problem is precisely the one he identifies as point (2) -- I have a bad output device profile and I wish to correct that.
Anyone out there with a good HP B9180/Advanced Photo Glossy ICC profile out there??
TS

Nikon D300 and chromatic aberration

I've noticed quite pronounced fringing in raw files brought into Lightroom 1.4 from a Nikon D300 and it can't be adequately fixed using the Lens Correction controls.
Creating jpegs in-camera using RAW+jpeg gives jpegs with far better fringe reduction than I can get in Lightroom. It seems that Nikon Capture NX can give the same treatment to NEFs that the camera gives to jpegs, but it's not available in Lightroom.
That benefit is powerful enough to make me consider switching to NX rather than upgrading to Lightroom 2 (which doesn't appear have this feature either).
Alas, I've been allowing Lightroom to convert my NEFs to DNGs, so I imagine I've lost the metadata that NX uses to fix the CA on all my old files.
Has anybody got any useful info on any of this?

Nikon uses a software algorithm in the body and in NX to correct for lateral CA live. It does it for ANY lense you attach to the body. For RAW files, the info is written as metadata in the RAW file, which NX reads and uses as a first guess. Canon does the same in their DPP software. The math that Lightroom does in the lens correction section is the same. It just doesn't automatically determine the right settings. I have over time developed a set of presets that I will apply to files from certain lenses at certain focal lengths and this works OK, but not as good as the automatic fitting of the parameters that NX does. I had asked for something like this in the beta period, but it is probably not very high on the list of priorities. We'll see when and if it materializes. The algorithms to do this are simple (there is no reason to build a database, this is straightforward image processing stuff) but they are patent protected, so Adobe might not go there at all.

New beta profiles for D810

Adobe says the folder for installing the new beta profiles for Nikon D810 on Windows is 'C:\Users\[user name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles.
But I can only get as far as C:\Users\[user name]\Application Data - i.e. no folder named Roaming.
Solution?

Have you enabled the Viewing of all hidden folders in Windows?

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I have purchased the Nikon D5200 and want to use Lightroom to edit my images. Will the older versions of Lightroom have the built in presets to cope with the distortion that is often seen at the wider angles with the Nikon? If not, what is the oldest version that I can get? Thanks

Lr4.3 will read the files... but why not just get the latest Lr5.2??
Yes, lens correction will be applied for most lenses.
You will need to check the lens or lenses you have against the listings on the Adobe site but most commone Nikon leses have profiles.

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