Nikon NEF's and Active D-Lighting question

Not being sure how Aperture handles Active D-Lighting NEF's, so I think it might be best to leave it off in camera for NON Nikon software.
Thoughts from anyone? How do people here process Nikon NEF's in Aperture?
Nikon D300 user.

aperture pulls the raw data ... not any in camera settings that would be applied as part of the camera's or manufacturer's processing ... this is the case with ALL 3rd party RAW converters ... your sensor gives the raw data ...
the as shot WB is used, but since it is RAW you can change that ...
musicmaker wrote:
So all of the settings I do on the D300 are worthless to Aperture.
so yeah ... worthless ... if that is what you wanna call it ... why bother with post processing a RAW image if you want all your parameters set by the camera during the shoot ... you'd be better off sticking with JPEG ...
find me another RAW converter that can read proprietary camera manufacturers in camera settings (saturation, contrast, sharpness, etc) and i will gladly apologize ...

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When you re-installed Photoshop, you also re-installed the version of Camera Raw which shipped with Photoshop - in other words you reverted to an older version of Camera Raw which does not support the D5100.
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I am trying out Adobe Lightroom and the Nikon NEF files from my D70s are imported directly into Lightroom just as I had hoped they would be. However, I am flying blind when it comes to seeing the thumbnail previews of those same files "before" I do the actual importing.
Only the "NEF icon" shows up in the directory where the files are located, so I really don't have the ability to choose which file I wish to import into Lightroom unless I look at them in Adobe bridge first. This is a little inconvenient to have to do that.
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Can anyone advise how to allow adjustments to NEF files in Aperture 2?
I just bought a Nikon D700 after using a Canon w/out problems for years.
I imported to iPhoto and then to Aperture. All the files appear in view but adjustments are ghosted out and it says are "not enabled".
I have NX2 but find it clunky and would prefer to use Aperture.
I'm appealing for help after spending nearly all weekend trying to get it to work.
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I Use a Nikon D2x and only take raw images (.NEF file)
After I update from RAW support 2.1.1 update to RAW support 2.2 update, all my raw image file (.NEF file) taken before 13th September 2006 ! would not display - In the Aperture program, if i navigate to a project / folder and clicked on a thumb nail in the browser, I get a magenta / cyan screen showing in the main viewer panel with unsupported image format. ?
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I have deleted (the 2.2 update) “from” System/Library/CoreServices/RawCamera.bundle and reinstall the RAW support 2.1.1 update.
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Their is a problem with the Apple digital camera RAW support 2.2 update, it rendered the Aperture program useless to me for my older .NEF image/files (as above).
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Thankfully, I wasn't affected by the issue given I'm currently with Canon. There have been Canon woes in the past though.
On a side note, I never update anything until it has been out for a few weeks just to be sure. Because Aperture is such an integral component of my studio and business, I make sure everything always works before making any updates or changes - including upgrading cameras.
I'm sure the next update will fix the magenta issues.
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CD

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I was successfully running the trial version of Photoshop Elements 7 with 5.4 of the raw file filter. I purchased the Premiere/Photoshop Elements 7 bundle, uninstalled the trial, and installed both full versions.
I also downloaded Camera Raw 5.5 and installed it.
With 5.5 I would receive "Adobe Photoshop Elements (editor) has stopped working" when opening a Nikon NEF file, and Elements would abort. Both x64 and x32 versions of the Camera_raw.8bi file would cause the same problem.
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Is this a sensible workflow for Nikon NEF files?

Hi,
I'm new to the world of digital SLRs having received a Nikon D40 for Christmas. After comparing Aperture 2 and Lightroom 2, I've decided to go with Aperture, as I already use Logic Pro so like the user interface and (I know a lot of people don't agree) I prefer the way Aperture renders the Nikon NEF files without extra adjustment. I'm also evaluating Capture NX 2, but am undecided as to whether I need it at this point.
Up until now I've been using Nikon Transfer to transfer the photos to my iMac, and View NX to view them. I like the automatic naming of folders in Transfer, plus being able to see Nikon's interpretation of the raw files. I've then been importing the photos as referenced files into Aperture for proper cataloguing, etc.
Is this a good approach? I'm a hobby photographer, mostly landscapes and townscapes, and deal with hundreds rather than thousands of images.
I'm a bit confused by all the options, so any advice would be very welcome!
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Is this a sensible workflow for Nikon NEF files? YES!
I shoot Nikon NEF files and use Aperure exclusively with occasionally a little blending of layers made from versions of the same raw file (to improve the dynamic range a little more).
You like Nikon Transfer's "automatic nameing of folders" Check out the Subfolders drop down menu in the Import Window in Aperture; you can do that and much more too.
"...plus being able to see Nikon's interpretation of the raw files." You need to choose between the Nikon route and the Aperture route I think. You don't drive from A to B in one brand of car and then go back and do it in another brand of car just in case it might be better do you?!
"I'm a hobby photographer, mostly landscapes and townscapes, and deal with hundreds rather than thousands of images" Can you keyword images and then use them to sort and group images in View NX? You can in Aperture.
From my humble experience as a Nikon owner using Aperture for two years I suggest you use Aperture to download, organise and edit your raws. I prefer referenced so that I can archive large numbers of Raws to free disk space and for protection but still search the previews or do a keyword searches. I used to use Capture NX to process any files that needed more work but now that Aperture2 is so good and has so many plug-ins I have left the slow, clunky Nikon Prog' alone. Be brave and jump in to Aperture. It is great once you are in!

Lighroom and Nikon NEF files

I have some questions about Lightroom's handling of Nikon NEF files, specifically the parts of the NEF files that Nikon has decided it is a brilliant idea to encrypt. I am using a Nikon D200.
How does Lightroom handle white balance in a NEF file? Has Adobe licensed the "mini-SDK" from Nikon, is the white balance estimated from the image data, or how is this done?
And what about the sharpening (and other data?) - how does Lightroom handle that? Is it always the same (by camera)? Can the default settings be customized?
I am also interested in knowing whether using NEF+JPEG enables Lightroom to use more of the image metadata, as white balance/etc is not encrypted in the JPEG file. Will using NEF+JPEG give me the in-camera settings for the data that is encrypted in the NEF file? I'd be happy to shoot RAW+JPEG with a small JPEG if it helps Lightroom with the in-camera settings.

To answer your question, yes, Adobe has licensed the mini-SDK from Nikon in order to get at the encrypted white balance info. Nearly everything else is encrypted and inaccessible and can only be accessed by Nikon software.
Ironically, all this has done is push me almost 100% in favour of DNG.
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The in-camera settings in the file are not useful for you unless you use Nikon imaging software.
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- Shoot only raw, and let your camera and Lightroom generate the previews you need at the time.
- Create a camera profile for importing those raw files. Every camera responds a little differently.
- Either keep the raw files or convert to DNG for archival purposes. The arguments for and against this are easy to find elsewhere on these forums and on the web.
If you need to be able to tweak your NEF images on the computer as if you were tweaking the camera controls /before/ taking the shot, you have to use Nikon software. I personally see little value in this, but your kilometreage will vary.

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Is somebody able to explain in which way if at all LR 1.3.1 supports the ACTIVE D-Lighting facility of the new Nikon D300?
The user manual explains that this function works directly on the RAW file and not on the jpeg like the normal D-Lighting of the D300, therefore I guess LR supports this function in some ways.
In some german photo forums there are discussions going on if it works at all and if it works how it could work, unfortunately nobody really knows anything precise about it, just too much guesswork.
I would be very happy if it anybody, hopefully from the development team, could shed some light into this topic.
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I have Photoshop CS5.5 Design Premium and need to open Nikon NEF files.
I just downloaded the plug in for CS5.5 and it does not work. I put the Camera Raw.8bi file in the correct location as specifiec in the "read me" file.
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status column for the first 68 files said "converted," but the for all the
rest, it says "There was an error writing the file."
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Considering upgrading to PSE 13 and was wondering if PSE 13 supports Nikon NEF files for a Nikon D5300 without an additional plugin. The D5300 is shown as supported for version 8.6 converter and I currently have PSE 10 and have to use the DNG converter on all NEF files which is not only a pain but time consuming.

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I have a quality issue, question !!
I'm using Lightroom 2, I also convert all my NEF files into DNG Lightroom. The process I use for photo management is the following. I view all my images with Nikon ViewNX first and delete the bad images, rename the images within ViewNX and then import into Lightroom with conversion to DNG.
Don’t know why but I just noticed this quality issue today. Two images from today’s work, when viewed in ViewNX have a better light to dark contrast that when I view them with Lightroom 2.0
Thoughts? Should there be any difference between the Nikon software and Lightroom?
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Jao vdL wrote:
Oh my! Culling images in ViewNX? Lightroom would be far, far faster and convenient to do the initial culling. It is one of the program's strong suits.
Since when Jao. As you know, I am a long time LR user, but I have recently gone back to using other programs to do an initial cull. Waiting for LR to create previews and then waiting for the previews to "render" can be painful. Even ViewNX is way faster. I can cycle through images, even on the card, almost as fast as I can press the arrow key.
I think this is one of lightroom's weak points, and hear frustration with regard to this frequently on this very forum. Many users still use photo mechanic first, even though it adds a workflow step.
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Incorporating Active D-lighting in Lightroom or Bridge?

I would like to have the capability of using the Nikon 800 Active D-Lighting when I want it.
My organizing and basic (gross) adjustments happen in Lightroom 5.3. Lightroom, and as near as I can find, NO Adobe products (Lightroom, Bridge, Photoshop) can read the ADL information from a Nikon D800 .NEF, so apparently I have to go outside my normal workflow to incorporate the ADL data.
I'm looking for the simplest and most efficient way to get from a NEF that has information Adobe won't read to some kind of raw file (a .dng?) WITH the ADL data. So far, the only path I've found is to open the images in View NX2 and convert them to 16-bit tiff files because View NX2 doesn't have any "convert to dng" that I can find.
Then, I have to open the tiff files in Bridge (or LR), shove them into ACR, and save them as .dng files. Aside from being clumsy, the .dng files are HUGE... a 48MB .NEF becomes a 42MB (approximately) .dng file. BUT, if I go through View NX2 and generate .tiff files, the tiff conversion to .dng generates a file between 110 and 120MB - almost THREE TIMES larger than a .dng created directly from the .nef.
Is there a reasonable way of getting a source file into Bridge orLightroom that incorporates the data in the Nikon .NEF?

DavePinMinn wrote:
I've seen arguments both ways
Many are made by people who don't know what they're talking about, even some proclaimed to be "experts" .
DavePinMinn wrote:
Picture Controls - similar results from calibrations in ACR?
Active D-Lighting - maybe sort-of doable in ACR although from what I understand it there's no substitute for the in-camera shadow curve applied
Vignette Control - I presume ACR does something similar in effects?
Auto Distortion Control - don't know whether the loss of this is a problem or not
High ISO NR - does ACR do a better job with this than the camera can do? seems like this one would be nice to have from the camera
All Settings from “Custom Setting Menu” - I'm not sure what other settings there may be
Focus Point Location in the frame - interesting to have but most times not critical
Only thing Lr reads is white balance and in a few cases some other thing.
My biggest complaint about Nikon manuals, is nothing talks about which settings affect raw data and which don't.
Turns out, other than a possible reduction in exposure via ADL, none of them affect the raw data - they only affect the creation of the jpeg(s) by camera firmware or Nikon software. (I mean, basic exposure settings affect raw data too, but none of the others do).
To me, this is a really good thing - shooting raw means all you have to worry about when shooting is getting the exposure right - yippee!: the rest you can worry about in post.
DavePinMinn wrote:
I may as well shut off most of the unique settings the D800 can adjust 'cause they won't be read anyhow.
Or just forget about them. Personally, I shoot with a contrast reduced & saturation increased neutral profile - all the time. This allows me to better assess raw exposure, highlight/shadow detail, and captured color.
DavePinMinn wrote:
I understand better now why there are people in other forums swearing by the Nikon software...
Yeah - they haven't mastered ACR! Seriously, ACR's lens corrections are very good, and color handling, and sharpening, and noise reduction, and ...
Nikon's editing toolset is far more extensive than ACR, but in terms of the basics, I think ACR is better.
DavePinMinn wrote:
Focus Point Location in the frame..
Yep - a point in favor of Nikon software to be sure.
ExifMeta can show focus point(s), in custom-friendly (text) format, but not on the image itself, so ya still gotta use your powers of visualization...
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