No 1t/2t option K8n NEO 4 F 3700+ CCBWE RESOLVED

After the price drop I installed the CPU in my sig running BIOS ver 1.9. After install I set optimized defaults and left it.
Well yesterday I went in to overclock and noticed the 1T/2T option was not there any longer. So thinking that maybe the bios needed to be update to recognise the CPU properly I successfully updated the BIOS to to ver 1.D.
Shut down and did a full CMOS clear. Loaded optimized defaults. shut down and went to set up the bios again.
1T/2T option is not there still. The previous CPU was 3500+CBBID and the 1T/2T option was there. I explored post of others that have had this problem but not seen any good results. Could it be that this CPU does not support this option?

Here is the reply from AMD CPU Support, which I will forward on to MSI.
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Dear Jerry,
It’s very unlikely to be a memory controller issue, it’s probably a bios one.
Try to run your processor in another motherboard, and if it shows the same errors, please create an RMA.
Thank you for contacting AMD’s Technical Service Center, and let us now how it came out!
Best regards,
Bruno Henrique
AMD TSC
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
Date: 09/03/2006 08:21:55 EST
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Subject: CPU-Support
Gerard Biel
388 Magee Ave. Rochester, NY 14613 United States
AMD64 3700+ sct939 ADA3700DKA5CF
MSI K8N Neo 4 F BIOS ver. 1.D
Stock AMD Heatsink and Fan
ENERMAX Whisper EG465P-VE FMA(24)
Windows Vista BETA 2
For some reason, with this processor, the 1T/2T memory timing option in my
MB BIOS is not available. I have tried to find a solution through MSI tech
support and various other help forums including the AMD forum and the MSI
forum. I have tried a 3500+CBBID and a 3000+CBBGD and the optionis
available for both of these in the BIOS. With the 3700+ it does not show,
not even as an unavailable option.
I tried to fill out an online RMA request form but the p/n for this CPU
"DKA5CF" does not show on the left panel. I purchased this CPU July 26, 2006
and it was shipped August 02, 2006 from Tiger Direct.
If AMD or I can offer any further info please contact me otherwise I think
the memory controller on this CPU may be defective. If you believe this to
be the case please issue me an RMA with instructions.
Regards,
Jerry Biel

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Quote from: Russ_xp on 23-October-05, 22:14:28
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Too right... In addition disabling fastwrites and the dreaded ATI/NV speedup option, make sure that the 2D/3D accel speeds are at the same settings, if not the card tends to "freak out".
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Originally posted by Ludic
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