No audio with avchd clips

Hi,
My video camera produces .mts files - avchd.
Wanting a good editor I downloaded a Trial version of Premiere Pro CC , BUT no matter
what I tried - including many suggestions from on line users- could not get audio with any
of my clips. Prelude was able to "ingest" the clips with audio BUT whenever I exported them to PP
they were unrecognizable by PP.
Cannot seem to get any definite answer from any authority in Adobe. Is this problem insoluble?
I would like to buy into PP CC but not if it cannot handle the files my Panasonic camcorder produces
whats the point? Also transcoding .mts files into another format ( which works with PP ! ) reduces the
quality and is not acceptable.
Anybody know the answer?
( Win 7 (64) ; Intel i7 920 )

Audio is at times the bane of the video editing side of things. There's been holy Hades raised here at times over the way PrPro does ... or really, doesn't ... handle "extended" audio channels as they would seem to be logically best handled. And the comments that some other programs handle X part of this easier. At which point there's oft a comment that yea, that be the case but that other program handles Y part of the audio process like a truly crashed turkey.
It seems to me the point is that perhaps none of the editing apps are where they should be for treating the audio part as seriously as the video. There've been comments and blogs from Adobe that this is why they have Audition, to handle all the audio stuff. But to many of us the way that Audition & PrPro work is not as "transparent" as we need it to be. Audition normally overwrites original files unless you purposely save-as. PrPro never over-writes original footage files. A few people have been caught by trying something in Audition ... without save-as-ing, and unfortunately without proper back-up, and ruined their audio. With no way back. Unfortunate, but in the differences in the two program's methodology, this is bound to happen at some time to almost anyone. "You should have known what you were doing before you did it" ... yea, true ... but in a hurry under deadlines, well ... baaaad things happen. Especially when one gets used to a HUGE "feature" of the Adobe video apps: non-destructive editing. Oh, sorry, Audition is a wee bit different. People need to know that!
And ... yea, setting up PrPro for 5.1 or 7.1 is entirely possible ... IF you know exactly what to set in preferences (which is not explained clearly for those who aren't already knowledgeable) AND how to move things about on your tracks in a sequence. So some of the experienced people feel it's not THAT hard a deal ... deal with it and move on. For noobs to the scheme of this, it can be completely un-penetrable.
Hope you get this nailed ... and there are some wonderful people around here that know those settings and when they do pop in can give so much help ...
Neil

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