No battery, sad face, can't charge or reset

I used my ipod until it ran out of battery. Then I started getting the sad face icon (frozen). Now I can't reset it because it has no battery and cant charge it because its frozen. I hooked it up to my comp for a few hours but it wont charge. (it displays a little battery then tries to reset itself but keeps going to the sad face icon) The computer does not recognize it because it has no battery. (neither windows nor itunes) Im stuck in a circle!!
Gateway Platinum   Windows XP  

Now my Ipod is really frustrating me. I had basically come to terms with the fact that I was simply going have to buy a new Ipod due the problems I discussed earlier in my post.
However, last week while getting ready for work I just decided to turn on the dead ipod, and to my surprise, it worked! Right to the main menu. But to my disgust, the moment I connected it to my laptop to attempt to perform a restore, the dreaded "do not disconnect" message came up and would not stop. I then tried to switch it to disk mode and perform a manual restore, and the instant it converted to disk mode, the "DND" message popped up again and it never connected.
Another week went by and everytime I walked by the ipod I would attempt to turn it on with no luck (the folder icon would show up). But this morning, the ipod decided it wanted to work, and the same problems persisted. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Spank your iPod
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ljPhrFUaOY
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3597173#3597173
    Exclamation point and folder and nothing else
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2831962#2831962
    What should I do with my iPod? Send it or keep it?
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=469080&tstart=0
    Strange error on iPod (probably death)
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=435160&start=0&tstart=0
    Sad Face on iPod for no apparent reason
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=336342&start=0&tstart=0
    Meeting the Sad iPod icon
    http://askpang.typepad.com/relevanthistory/2004/11/meeting_thesad.html#comment-10519524
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    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2236095#2236095
    iPod Photo: unhappy icon + warranty question
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2233746#2233746
    4th Gen iPod Users - are we all having the same problem?
    http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2235623#2235623
    Low Battery, and clicking sounds
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2237714#2237714
    Sad faced iPod, but my computer won’t recognize it
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2242018#2242018
    Sad iPod solution
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=412033&tstart=0
    Re: try to restore ipod and it says "can't mount ipod"
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=443659&tstart=30
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    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2420150#2420150
    Cant put it into disk mode
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3786084#3786084
    I think my iPod just died its final death
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3813051
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    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3827167#3827167
    My iPod ism’t resetting and isn’t being read by my computer
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4489387#4489387
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