No boot, tried everything k8n Neo Platinum

-System-
3400+ Athalon 64, Clawhammer Core
2X 512 PC3200 Corsair Value Select Memory
MSI Neo Platinum Motherboard (RMA'd the first but second has same issue)
Gigabyte 6800 GT (have a chaintech FX5200 for testing)
"A Ultra" 550 WAT PSU, Started with a Turbolink 480 WAT, Moved to the 550 thinking it was the psu
40 Gig MAXTOR 7200 RPM HD
Liteon 52x Cd-Rw
Cheap gateway floppy
-Symptoms-
PC boots as far as the "Processor Initialization" stage on the D-Bracket and powers down just as if i unpluged it out of the wall, press the button again and the same thing.
I get one beep at the begining of boot and according to the msi troubleshooting page its bad ram, but the ram works in my old PC and the PNY 2700 ram that was in the older PC originaly will not work either.
-Ive tried-
1. Checked for grounding, started outside of case on non conducting material
2. Booted with nothing but videocard and motherboard
3. Tried an FX5200 Nvidia videocard
4. Cleared the CMOS
5. Tried new and larger PSU (480 to 550)
6. Tried RAM in all combinations on the motherborad
7. Tried old RAM in all combinations on the motherboard
The only thing i havent tried, For lack of another processor, is try a difrrent processor in my motherboard. I havent takein this into much considerations because it SHOULD (yes i know it very well may not) show that the processor is damgaged/incorrectly installed on the D-Bracket LED
Honestly im at a loss myself, ill be takeing the processor tho the local pc shop and haveing them test it in one of their machines for me friday. Dident have any 754 socket machines in today >

oops forgot to mention that its an OEM processor, And the aftermarket cooling.
Thermaltake Venus 12 CPU Cooler For AMD Opteron and Athlon 64
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-038&depa=0
Hannible, no bent damaged pins. as far as the thermal paist goes im not exactly experianced with it. but i will look over it. And as for useing a second cpu. not exactly an option. I will be able to test the one I have friday but as far as useing a whole new cpu in this system its just not something i can do. For one im trying my best not to end up takeing it down to the local computer shop and just telling them to fix it (very very tempting when youve been screwing with a PC for the past 2 months) and ending up with a 100+ doller labor charge plus an overpriced part. If the cpu turns out to be bad friday ill order another processor and see where i go from there.
OK second edit.. Yes that is the processor with the On the dye memory controler

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It reads the HD and after a little while all the lights in the D-Bracket go green. But still no video.
There are other simptoms that can help the diagnosis: sometimes i do get video, the system powers up perfectly. This happens when I repeatedly press the reset button, or try powering on and off, on and off...
I don't think it is cold boot problem, since when I successfully turn on the system and then turn it off, the same boot problem occurs I I try turning it on again.
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Quote from: cyberoll on 19-April-06, 19:18:18
Its solved now. There was a short circuit. The rouded isolators were placed in the upside of the board, and they should have been under the board. I changed it and all the problems are gone.
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MOVED: Boot problems with K8N NEO PLATINUM (no video).

This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96137.0

Quote from: cyberoll on 19-April-06, 19:18:18
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hi all
first of all sorry about my bad english...
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cyas
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[edit:]
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i think that should work. it looks like the bios can still read disks, so its worth a try.
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Greetz MurdoK
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if u had read the threads a little more u might have found a solution that seems to have worked 4 many - a usb keyboard usb Keyboard if u go this route dont forget to enable usb kb in bios
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my setup:
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amd athlon 64 3200+
msi k8n neo plat - 7030 - bios 2.1
x800 xt vid
sound blaster audigy 2
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Quote from: russellmrgn on 28-March-06, 10:54:39
Sap147
Can you give us what the D-Bracket was showing ie
R R
G R
As an example this means "Initializing Keyboard Controller"
You will find this information in the manual page 2-23. (On mine) under Hardware Setup
Also can you please do all your tests with the ps2 keyboard and mouse and for now leave your Logitech G7 USB wireless mouse to one side.
Russell
for two sticks of ram = RR
GG
for one stick of ram = GR
GG
as for the g7, it hasnt been plugged in at all, i took it out long ago.. as for the ram, the timing was set to 2T, no overclocking, i will try 2.7 v and let you know, but for the record, it has been running at normal voltage settings for about a year perfectly fine.

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I've had nothing but problems trying to get this system running properly at any overclocking selections. Can you please review my components and give me suggestions on how to improve my situation.
Currently my know problems are 1. The Mother Board will only read my (2) 200/Gig Hard drives as 127/Gigs. 2. Slighest overclocking & system won't boot up.
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Processor: A64 3200+ NewCastle
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MSI 5900 Ultra
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Thoughts on my other components???

The first thing you need to do is tighten them memory timings you killing your a64's performance
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Originally posted by phreakymind
Hello everyone,
I am running the Board for a while now and it was rockstable.
System is:
A643200+ C0 Zalman CNPS 7000 A-Cu
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Bios 1.2
2x512MB OCZ 3700 EB
windows xp pro sp1
old card: Ati 9800 XT
new card: Saphire X800 Pro modded to XT.
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After testing a little Bit benchmarking stresstesting, i rebootet and the system and it hangs at the windows xp bootscreen. i reloaded a restore point and tried to reinstall the drivers. no luck.
then i reinstalled windows xp on moday with the same drivers and everything seemed to work fine. windows booted normally, the card worked fine.
yesterday after work. same thing. lookup at the bootscreen of windows.
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the card is working fine on 3d. i played yesteray for 4 hours at a time and no problems. but after rebooting i cant get into windows.
so i contacted the seller of the card and he told me i am the thired customer who hast issues with the card on this board.
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hence
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