No Business System is Determined

Hello Gurus,
I would like to seek assistance from you. I am encountering a problem when creating Sales Transaction VA01. The prompt message specifies " No business system is determined for logical system YGICLNT100".
I might have missed settings in the configuration. Hoping for your kind assistance.
Thanks,
Nap

Hello Srinivas,
BusSysGrp Logical Sys SAP sys Rel. Queue Type Err. Handling
APO100 DGACLNT100 X 50 Inbound Queue Strict (Teminate.)
APO100 T02_567 X 470 Inbound Queue PostProcessing
APO100 YGICLNT100 X 470 Inbound Queue PostProcessing
The above shows the setup. Have I missed anything from here?
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