No changes appear when batch editing Camera Raw Files and saving as jpegs

When I batch edit my raw files, including saving the file as a jpeg, from bridge or photoshop the resulting file saved never includes any changes I made in the Camera Raw editor. For example if I have lightened the photo by changing the exposure in Camera Raw as a saved jpeg after batching the file is still as dark as when originally shot. Is there some little box I forgot to check or something? Thanks!
andy

I've seen something like this, but have not figured out why yet. In my situation I select a group of images in Bridge and go to Tools / Photoshop / Image Processor.
There I click the "open first image to apply settings" box.
Save in Same Location
Save as JPEG, resize to fit (1200 pixels), Convert Profile to sRGB.
No Action selected
Include ICC Profile
Run it and in Camera Raw roll the saturation down to -100 (convert to b&W).
Click "Open Image"
The process runs and the first image is converted to b&w, but the others are not.
John

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>I plug my camera into my computer and try and open the RAW files directly from the camera
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!
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The forum is not dead; moribund, perhaps. :-)
You do realize that this is a user forum, don't you? This is not a conduit to address Adobe.
The volunteer contributors who give their time free of charge here respond to questions if and when they think they can help, if they know the answer to a question, and if they think the original poster has provided enough, detailed information. No one has any obligation to answer questions.
My use of Windows is, mercifully, restricted to an absolute minimum these days, otherwise I would have attempted to extract more information from you about your machine and system.
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BOILERPLATE TEXT:
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A screen shot could be very helpful too.
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