No Dv/DvcPro- NTSC codecs?

Hi i apologize if this a stupid question or has been asked before - but what happened to the dv/dvcpro-ntsc codec in Ae CS5? Has it changed to something else like dv25 or dv50 and i'm just not familiar enough with the codec to know the difference?
Thanks!

In previous versions of After Effects, the imprecise names of the codecs as supplied by QuickTime were used. In After Effects CS5, the more precise names of the codecs are presented in the UI. For example, 'DV25' is what is usually meant when people say 'DV codec', even though it's just one of many DV codecs.
This is also being discussed on this thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3038136

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Animation vs DV/DVCPRO NTSC Codec

I'm tring to run my project down to a DVD via iDVD. Inside the project I have various Photoshop graphics and text I created in FCP. When I export my project as a straight QuickTime movie using the default DVCPRO Codec. All my text and graphics are low res. When I export the project as Animation all the graphics and FCP text is perfect but all the video footage is interlaced. I've change my seq. settings to Animation and exported the mov. as Animation as well but it's still interlaced, why?
Thank you,

Never judge quality based on what you see on the desktop.
To see that you will get on the DVD, you need to have an external monitor (TV) connected to your computer while you have FCP open.
#8 External Monitor Viewing.
Shane's Stock Answer #8:
A simple path is mac > firewire > camera or deck > rca cables > tv
Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.
Then go View > External video > all frames
Video playback should be Apple firewire NTSC (If you are using an NTSC set)
Audio playback should be Audio follows Video
Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV
If for some reason you can't view your timeline on your external monitor, there are a few things to try:
1) Make sure that the camera/deck is connected and powered on BEFORE you open FCP.
2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.
3) Go to the menu and select VIEW>EXTERNAL>ALL FRAMES.
4) Click in the % box above the image and select FIT TO WINDOW.
5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices
6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed
If you want it to play in both the canvas and the external monitor you need to go to the FINAL CUT PRO menu and select AUDIO/VIDIO settings and make sure MIRROR ON DESKTOP is selected under the PLAYBACK OUTPUT section
Shane
"There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!"

Blurry footage when using Apple DV/DVCPRO - NTSC

I'm working on a 30 second spot that I need to upload to the cable company and they only accept .mov files. It's SD footage. It was shot and is being output as 720x480i. I tried sending them an uncompressed .mov file but they said they couldn't use it (wouldn't open with their conversion system). The guy at the cable company is telling me to use the Apple DV/DVCPRO - NTSC codec to compress it, but when I use that the footage looks pretty blurry compared to the uncompressed version.
I even took it home and checked on my Mac, which looked a little better, but still blurry. I tried exporting it using the h.264 codec and it looked better (still not quite as good as the uncompressed, but pretty close). The strange thing is the the h.264 compressed file was only around 50MB while the DV/DVCPRO - NTSC file was around 100MB.
Is the h.264 codec just that much better that a file can be half the size, but still look better? Or am I just seeing the blurriness because I'm watching them play back on a computer monitor and if I were to send him the DV/DVCPRO - NTSC compressed file it would look fine on TV?

Well, my guess would be that you're witnessing the artifacts of displaying interlaced video on a progressive display. The DV codec is interlaced by its nature, and your computer screen is progressive by its nature. Typically, interlaced video will not look its best on a computer screen, and that's why you'll always hear recommendations of previewing your interlaced material on a properly calibrated NTSC/PAL display. It's just too difficult to judge problems with interlaced footage on a computer screen.
I imagine that the difference you're seeing between the DV export and the H.264 export is that the latter was deinterlaced, and therefore looks "better" on a computer screen. That said, it's not going to look good on a television, which is the intended output. And, I'd bet dimes to donuts that your cable company would scream bloody murder if you sent them an H.264 encoded video in an MP4 container--they just won't know what to do with it. Believe me--I've tried. Send them that DV MOV, and your life will be much better :)

Converting CODECS TO DV-DVCPRO-NTSC

Need advice on converting formats and compression systems to work in FCE without constant rendering. I'm not sure I understand how this all works. As far as I know in order to work “efficiently” (i.e. without rendering all the time) all clips need to be imported into FCE using MOV format with DV-DVCPRO-NTSC compression.
I have video from a Canon G-11 digital camera that downloads automatically into iPhoto. When I drag a clip out of iPhoto it’s in MOV format but with a codec of H.264. To get it into DV-DVCPRI-NTSC compression I have to open QT-7, open the clip then “export” it with options set correctly…then I import the clip into FCE. This is not so bad but I can only do one clip at a time. I literally have dozens! I must be missing something. Is there a better way or is there a way to batch convert in QT-7?
I’m using FCE 4.0.1 on a MacBook Pro with OSX10.8.4. Thanks for any information.

Thanks MtD and DH,
Sorry for the delayed response. First, thanks MtD for the tip on Streamclip. It works!! I can now batch convert. However, I'm embarrassed to admit I do not know what "Are you editing on a DV timeline?" means. I have no idea!. But I guess it doesn't matter since I'm back in business.
DH, I'm mixing SD video from 1st generation Flip camera with SD from a Canon camera...so no HD. However, I am clicking anamorphic on the item properties screen and using the wide screen format. This may be wrong when I export the final sequence from FCE...but I'm taking a chance it will play properly when I burn it to a DVD.
Again, thanks to you both.

Importing Footage DV/NTSC codec Hi Res into Final Cut Studio

A friend, computer wizard, figured out a way to capture dv footage hi res using a linux computer. (this enabled to captured 4 tapes at once). He used the DV/NTSC codec and we checked that all the settings matched final cut's settings.
The files play back in QT perfectly and QT identifies the codec as the same as FCStudios.
However, when importing these files into FC Studio, 2 oddities occur:
1. The files require rendering
2. Media manager is unable to recompress file to low res
any advice (besides capturing it all over using FC Studio)?
Thanks!

Hi-res?? DV NTSC is 720x480 with DV compression applied, period. There is no such thing as "hi-res" DV video.
If you have captured video at a high-definition frame size, with DV compression, then you have created some bizarre franken-codec, which may bear some similarities to DVCPRO 100, but is neither DV nor HD, nor anything that could be native to FCP, even if Quicktime is able to open or play it back.
If you are able to at least import to FCP, you are halfway there. chances are you are close. However, if the footage is not native, and you can't tweak the sequence settings to match your video, there is nothing you could do other than
1. fix whatever is wrong with the codec as it was captured, and recapture everything
2. re-export all the media to DV NTSC using FCPs batch export, or Compressor's Advanced Format Conversion
3. go ahead and edit with the non-native media and render, render, render.
Tell us what kind of info you see in the Movie Info window in QT Player. Capture a clip as DV NTSC with FCP and open the source file in QT Player and compare the movie info windows, you might be able to figure out what the difference is. I'm very curious about capturing 4 tapes at once on a single system.
Also, why would you be using Media Manager to down-res the clips?
This sounds very interesting, if a little confusing...
Max Average

DV/DVCPRO NTSC Compression not working

When I export a sequence to QT movie using DV/DVCPRO NTSC compression (either directly to a QT movie or using QT conversion) I get what looks like a solarized effect (maybe 6 colors total) and the colors are all off - mostly browns and dark tans with hard lines between them, grainy.
If I export with no compression, it looks fine.
It also looks fine in FCP itself during edit and playback, etc.
If I take this project and clips to another machine, it exports into DV/DVCPRO NTSC with no problem.
This just started happening. It was working fine for months with the same settings.
I've tried archive and reinstall the OS system as well as trashing and reinstalling FCP. No change. Using OS 10.4.11, FCP 5.1.4.
I don't know what else to do other than wipe the drive completely. All suggestions appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

Hi Paul
in your first post you said that exporting without compression was fine, now you say that it also has issues and that exporting on another machine is ok.
1. Given that you want to go back to tape, export at your sequence settings to maintain quality; actually selecting the same settings as the sequence settings should see no difference in quality. If you are outputting the finished product back to the same tape that the footage originated from there is no need to change codec, you are better to leave it the same.
2. The fact that the export is seeing problems on one machine and not another suggests that something is wrong on machine one. Trash the prefs for FCP, run some system maintainence on it as well, eg. Disk Utility.
Tony

DVCPro 50 Codec Conversion

I am currently using Adobe Premiere CS3 at my job and have run into yet another situation where I am forced to use someone else's Final Cut Pro files to edit with. Of course, they are Quicktime files with the dreaded DVCPro 50 codec.
In the past I have brought these home to my Macintosh and spent the time to convert the footage outside of work, but I have just discovered the Raylight Encoder Pro and thus far the demo version has allowed me to view all of the files I was given on my timeline, albeit with a watermark.
Before I purchase the full version, I would like to know if Adobe has any specific solutions they would recommend outside of using this third party software. Also, if third party is the way to go, does anyone has experience with using the Raylight Encoder Pro?
Here is their website:
http://www.dvfilm.com/raylight/EncoderPro/index.htm

I'm not aware of any built-in DVCPRO 50 solutions. Third party is the only way I know of to use them.

CS3 with Codec MainConcept DVCPro HD CODEC v7 7 0 23862 rar - can't import AVCHD (m2ts files)

Hi,
I have a Panasonic hdc-sd9 and just looking for a programm with which I can import the AVCHD (m2ts files).
I saw here( http://www.videoaktiv.de/200805171688/News/Camcorder/Panasonic-Broadcast-AVCHD-goes-profes sional.html ) that Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 with the Codec MainConcept DVCPro HD CODEC should work for the Panasonic File Format.
I have saved one video as a mpg file. I imported it to Premiere Pro CS3. I could import the mpg File but I had not audio sound in Premiere Pro CS3, but the mpg movie, for example when I start the movie in Windows Media Player or VLC there is sound.
Somebody can help me or provide me another programm which work?
Do somebody have the same problem ?
Thanks
Cheers
Flo

Hi Harm,
Thanks for the answer.
But can an mpg File have 5.1 sorrund sound ? Is this not yet Stereo ?
This is one of the problems...
Do you maybe have an idea regarding the importing problem with the m2ts file too ?
Thanks a lot
cheers
Flo

Question on exporting out to DV/DVCPRO - NTSC

I am trying to conform footage to my Easy Setup in Final Cut Pro and for some reason, it won't. My Easy Setup is based on the DV/DVCPRO - NTSC setup with the aspect ratio being 720x480. When I export the footage out, it gives me 720x480 (640x480). That's fine.
So I switch it to NTSC 720x480 4:3 and it still exports out as 640x480.
I try the custom option and type in 720x480 and it still exports out as 720x480.
What am I doing wrong? Is it trying to conform the aspect ratio to what the original video size is? Thanks.

What am I doing wrong? Is it trying to conform the aspect ratio to what the original video size is?
You are confusing the rectangular pixel encoding matrix (720x480) with the square pixel display dimensions (640x480). You must remember that DV was historically developed as a broadcast compression format to more closely reflect the rectangular pixel presentation of older CRT televisions having 720x480 rectangular pixels to display the equivalent of a 640x480 square pixel image.
So I switch it to NTSC 720x480 4:3 and it still exports out as 640x480.
I'm not quite sure what you saying you want to do here. If you were to display 720x480 rectangular pixels on a square pixel device (e.g., a computer monitor, HDTV, etc.), then at 720x480 square pixels the image would look somewhat squat with people and objects looking shorter and fatter than they should be because you have changed the aspect ratio from 4:3 (640x480) to 720x480 which would then have an actual square pixel aspect ratio of 1.5:1 (or 3:2) rather than 4:3.
As an aside, a 16:9 anamorphic DV file would also encode to the same 720x480 data matrix but (as long as the flag is not lost) actually play back at either 640x360 or approximately 853.3x480 depending on the application in use and you would see an entry of 720x480 (853x480) or 720x480 (640x360) on the player Inspector or Info window.
So, unless you are saying that your file has lost its anamorphic value (which can happen in some workflows), it sounds as if everything is working correctly.

Compression diff. btw "video" and "DV/DVCpro-NTSC"?

Hello,
I would like to export a sequence in FCP as a quicktime file. My source material is mini-Dv NTSC and was captured as such. What is the best compression setting for me to use in export--> using Quicktime conversion, in order for me to retain optimal quality. I guess I would have put compression to "none" but I don't have that option under settings --> compression settings. I am wondering between "video" and "DV/DVCpro-NTSC", I also notice that they take diffrent amount of time to export, does this have anything to do with the quality? I will be outputting to DVCAM and making transfers to BetaSP.
Thanks alot,
Lela

It's really just a habit I got into back when I was having trouble playing back long, heavy composite projects. It worked, and now, because it doesn't usually take alot of time (gotta go out for coffe and a smoke anyway) I still do it.
As for the archiving. My stuff goes to most clients on Betacam and I do make a DV copy. I just like to keep the show around for a bit, till I'm sure they aren't going to ask for another Betacam copy for a while. So maybe "archive" wasn't the right word.
Have fun
rh

DVCPRO HD codec (?)- Quicktime won't play video portion--have FDE 4

I have FCE 4 and want to edit a project created with a DVCPRO HD camera. We created quicktime files from the initial disc footage (using FCP) and put onto an external hard drive. Now with my computer (macbook 2.2 intel duo) and FCE 4 and Quicktime7.4.1 I can't open the video portion of the file--the audio plays but no image in both FCE and Quicktime-- and have gotten a message I need a codec (or codec could not be opened) Doesn't FCE have a dvcpro hd codec with the install? I just got this last month and haven't had a chance work with it til now.

The DVCPRO HD codec only comes with Final Cut Studio.

DVCPRO/HD Codec

Where can I get this codec?
As far as I understand, it is included in Final Cut Studio. I have Quicktime Pro, which does everything I need - except that in my current scenario, I'd like to use the DVCPRO/HD codec.
Is it available as a separate download?
If not, why not? Paying for a whole package of programs for just one component is ridiculous.

Does the DVCPRO/HD codec work with Final Cut Express?
If you mean "capture to" or "render to" DVCPRO HD for editing, then no, AIC is the default "native" HD editing codec. If you mean import and/or export from/to DVCPRO HD, then yes, like most QT editing applications, FCE has access to installed components whether installed as part of the basic OS package, iMovie, FCE, or FCP.

DVCPRO HD codec and After Effects

*THE CHALLENGE:* Getting DVCProHD video exported from Final Cut Pro 6, into After Effects CS3, and then back into Final Cut Pro without shifting color or gamma.
*THE PROBLEM:* Apple and Adobe interpret Gamma differently when using the DVCProHD codec. Each use their own version of a DVCProHD codec.
*POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:*
1) Use a 3rd party codec for both apps (Mainconcept, Canopus, Cineform, Raylight)
Downside: Cost money and I'd rather not deal with them
2) Use the Animation codec
Downside: Animation is a buggy codec, dropping frames and such. Also, file sizes are ridiculously huge and impractical.
3) Export Prorez HQ from FCP and in AE make an adjustment layer and tweak the gamma to 1.24.
Downside: This is a crude, temporary fix and probably not perfect in the gamma matching either.
Has anyone heard of a fix that still uses Apple's DVCPRO HD codec or are we stuck with cheap workarounds until Adobe and Apple decide to play nice again?

From an ongoing discussion at Creative Cow - http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/2/919924#939251
{quote}Apple has not released the DVCPRO HD codec for general QuickTime users, and especially not PC users. It's a closed-end format that can only be read by the codec included with FCP.
Adobe and Apple used to play nice, now their dvc pro hd codecs interpret gamma differently. Unless you can hack the decoder reader, you'll have to shell out some dough for the 3rd party codecs or rollback to an older FCP and AE.{quote}
And the Animation codec is buggy in that it drops frames randomly, changing the frame rate ever so slightly. But my bigger issue with the Animation codec (as mentioned before) is that the file sizes are WAY too big for me to use for any clip longer than a minute.

Should I convert what I did from DVCPro HD codec to ProRes?

I'm new to this so forgive me for my ignorance...
I've been editing HD video footages shot in PANASONIC HVX200 P2, shot in 23.976fps... Now that I'm almost done, I've been talking to a lot of people (including COLORISTS that I spoke to). They are asking why I did not use APPLE PRORES 422.
QUESTION: Should I convert what I did from DVCPro HD codec to ProRes? If YES, what's the easiest way for me to do this without starting from scratch. Is there an easy step in FCP that I can do to recapture from my RAW P2 files? If there is a way, will my existing sequences work fine if I just recapture raw files?
WHAT I HAVE:
RAW P2: from Panasonic HVX
Editing: Final Cut Pro 7
A/V FCP preset settings: DVCPRO HD 1080pa24
BTW, everything is fine with what I have but a couple of people I spoke with said I'll have better quality using Apple ProRes. Doing some test stuff, I noticed DVCPRO HD captures in 1280x1080, AND if I capture from APPLE PRORES it's 1440x1080. Since I'm not an expert on this, I'm not sure if the difference would be beneficial to what I'm doing.
I'm working on an indie digital movie hopefully for digital projection.
Thanks for the help!

First just a wee bit of advice .. you say in your post that you have FCP 7 - this is the FCPX forum you will always get faster maybe even better responses if you post in the Final Cut Studio forum which includes FCP 7. That said ..I will try to help ..
Your HVX200 captures onto the P2 card as DVCPRO HD (4:2:2) which is a compressed format not really intended to be an editing friendly codec .. (better than many others but still not ideal). When you ingest it into FCP 7 the Log and Transfer window has a wee preference tab in which you can set the codec .. I would use ProRes 422 or ProRes 422 (LT) if space is an issue. The incoming 'Transfer' is then decompressed and coded to ProRes 422 .. The main advantage is the ease of edit with no loss of quality.
Jim
http://www.panavision.co.uk/pdf/downloads/equipment-info/other/panasonic-ag-hvx2 00-faqs.pdf

DVCPro HD Codec for computers with Final Cut installed?

Why does the DVCPro HD Codec download say "DO NOT INSTALL CALIBRATED{Q} DECODE CODECS ON SYSTEMS WITH ANY VERSION OF FINAL CUT PRO INSTALLED"? I would like to be able to play HD quicktime videos, but I have Final Cut Express on my computer. Can I not download the codec? Is there something else I can download instead? Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!

Hi and welcome to Discussions,
Pro is not Express.
FC Pro supports DVCPro HD natively and thus the installation of the Calibrated one might interfere with it.
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/finalcutpro/broad-format-support.html
FC Express is not mentioned as being not supported, so you might go ahead and install it.
Regards
Stefan

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