No explanation for painfully slow broadband.

Up until Monday I got around 3.5Mbps but then out of nowhere my connection dropped to 0.33Mbps and hasn't changed since Monday. I have tried two different routers (both on ethernet and wifi), 2 computers, and connected the routers to the main socket. I have had no contact from BT to say my speed is being throttled or that I should be expecting speeds this slow and the phone line is fine so I have no idea what is causing this speed, please can somebody enlighten me?

1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
213 Kbps
0 Kbps
500 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 213 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 100-500 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :2270 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 440 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 350 Kbps
The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 8.57:25.79:66.08 (SBE:NBEBE)
These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.
The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes.
Results from router page...
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 01:17:58
Downstream
2,270 Kbps
Upstream
440 Kbps

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Painfully slow broadband (plus losing dial tone)

Hi everyone,
On Saturday night our broadband connection plummeted from a usual download speed of 200kbps (download speed, not connection) to what is now struggling to hit 15-20kbps. Along with the much slower broadband our phone has also been cutting out/losing dial tone/going incredibly quiet.
We called BT last night, told them the issues and after 45 minutes we we're told that the line was fine, it was an issue on our end and nothing else would be done.
Well this morning I spent a couple of hours messing around, connecting the router and phone to the master socket using multiple new ADSL filters, multiple other cables, everything I can think of and nothing has helped. It isn't just a WIFI issue either because although we use a few WIFI systems (android smartphone, Xbox 360 and a laptop) my main PC is connected to the router via an ethernet cable.
I'm lost for ideas though - I'm disabled and I'm unable to get out of the house often (trying to sort out the router this morning has even left me with a fair deal of pain) so the internet is my connection to the outside world via gaming and stuff, but since Saturday night I've been unable to do pretty much anything due to this issue and I'm just lost so please, if anyone can help I would appreciate any advice I can get right now.
This is the info from the connection section of the hubs page:
ADSL Line Status
Connection information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 day, 00:29:56
Downstream:
416 Kbps
Upstream:
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
13.3 dB / 10.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
61.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
14.8 dBm / 11.9 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
55 / 14
CRC Events (Down/Up):
33 / 0
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote):
0
HEC Errors (Down/Up):
22 / 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
0 / 0

Thanks a lot for the help so far, however I'm still having problems ...
So we did as you advised and reported the fault, then a couple of days ago (wednesday night-thursday) the phone line improved, as did the routers connection to the internet. The router is now connecting at at about 1.8mbps and the quiet line test on the phone is completely silent ... however my download speed hasn't seen any kind of improvement at all, even before all this rain and flood warning.
Could this be a problem with the router itself? Like I said originally, I've got multiple devices connected both wirelessly and wired (multiple cables tested) and according to the router and BTs speedtest it's connected perfectly, so I'm now just wondering if it could be a problem with the router not relaying the data fast enough?
It's been close to a week since this started so I'm just completely clueless - for someone who has problems leaving the house and connecting to the outside world by other means it's been a really tough week.
Thanks again for the help anyway.
By the way, my routers new stats are:
Connection information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
0 day, 10:54:14
Downstream:
1,824 Kbps
Upstream:
448 Kbps
(Short connection time because I restarted the router to see if the rain maintenance may have helped)
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
14.4 dB / 13.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
57.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
17.9 dBm / 11.9 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
79660 / 29
CRC Events (Down/Up):
66 / 2
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote):
0
HEC Errors (Down/Up):
138 / 3
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
0 / 0

Painfully slow broadband connection

Hello, my boradband connection has been painfully slow these past couple days I have a download speed of 3.16 Mbps and an upload speed of 0.66 Mbps. I feel it should be higher. Sky Hub Stats Router StatisticsSystem Up Time: 20:49:27PortStatusTxPktsRxPktsCollision PktsTx b/sRx b/sUp TimeWANPPPoA55465471722700011:17:32LANUp340065845900020:49:27WLANUp2759170195605701120:49:27Broadband LinkDownstreamUpstreamConnection Speed3821 kbps799 kbpsLine Attenuation52.5 dB33.4 dBNoise Margin6.3 dB12.12 dB

Mine is exactly the same, contacted sky about it via email. The technical dept ran a line tst and was showing good speeds at off peak times. 6-7mbps 5pm to midnight typically when I want to use is is as low at 0.44mbps I cant work with that. so it's getting pulled out as sky cant rectify it

Painfully slow broadband in the evenings

Hi could someone please let me know why it would appear that my unlimited broadband connection is being throttled by BT in the evenings?
I was told that I would have up to a 6mbps connection when I moved house and took out a new contract with BT a couple of months ago, to find that I only actually got a 2.5mbps connection. I wasn't too bothered about that, as 2.5mbps was fast enough for most things that I want.
Recently however I am getting 0.5 to 0.7mbps in the evenings until about midnight, when it goes back up to 2.5mbps (ish). Granted it's a slow connection anyway, but 0.5mbps is unusable, it takes an age for a simple web page to load let alone the bbc iplayer, youtube, etc. And if i try and work on remote servers at work in the evening it is TOTALLY unusable.
I have been a BT broadband customer for about 10 years now and I am very dissapointed to be treated like this.
Please could someone offer an explanation or some guidance on how to get this resolved?

Thanks for the reply. Bt Speedtester gave a result of 0.74mb.
Information from Home hub 2:
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 2:15:09
Downstream
2,656 Kbps
Upstream
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
6.2 dB / 17.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
52.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
17.6 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
0
Loss of Signal (Local)
0
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
653 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
10 / N/A
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
N/A / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
6

Help! Painfully slow broadband!

Hi All! I'm in need of some help discovering why my internet has gone so slow it'd be faster back on dial up!
I generally until Monday (29th) had speeds around 3Mbps but since then after doing speed tests I only appear to be getting around 0.5Mbps.
Could this be because I signed up to Openzone and BTFon?
I've looked to see if there are any issues on my line, but they come back clear, though one site I looked at rated my exchange (Malvern) as a congested one and due for upgrade on the 29th November.
I haven't had any emails notifying me of any upgrade so I'm confused.
Any help is really greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Theres this also if it helps?
Link Information
Uptime: 0 days, 1:41:52
Modulation: G.992.1 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 7,616
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 8.95 / 38.97
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 19.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 15.0 / 27.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 24.0 / 6.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ALCB
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 5,974
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 9
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 7
Line Profile: Interleaved
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Painfully Slow Broadband

Good afternoon to all
Another pretty standard post for this forum really - I'm with BT Broadband and have been for quite some time. This is a problem we've had for the entire time we've been with BT and sadly contacting them via phone hasn't helped us at all. Through the estimated speed checker offered by both BT and other sites, we're estimated to be between 3.5 and 5mb broadband. What we're actually getting is far, far lower at around 2.2mb. We've checked all the wiring in the house, replaced all the filters, and even when the router was upgraded to the HH3, no change in speed whatsoever. The connection is rock solid, only ever resetting itself when we've had power cuts - so from what I can glean, there ought not be a problem regarding a stuck IP profile. I don't live in the middle of nowhere, so it's especially frustrating when somebody who lives just 1/4 of a mile away form myself and is also with BT gets a standard 15mb speed.
If anybody can offer some insight in to the problem or a way to possibly combat it, I'd be greatly appreciative. Thanks.
For what it's worth, here's a copy of the line status details (the connection time is short due to a power cut yesterday). If anything else may be needed, please ask.
ADSL Line Status
Connection Information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
1 days, 22:02:26
Downstream:
2.217 Mbps
Upstream:
1.01 Mbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
6.8 dB / 5.6 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
45.0 dB / 29.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
17.1 dBm / 12.4 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
858439828 / 1331
CRC Events (Down/Up):
27322 / 555
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up):
21318 / 1126
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
21953 / 301

I had a quick look at the bellwire suggestion - this is definitely food for thought, however I do have an older style socket so I am not technically allowed to remove the plate. Thank you however!
John46 - thanks for replying too. I have done a quiet line test, and it came back perfectly silent. I also did the speedtester test and the results came back pretty much identical to how they do whenver I try that one:
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
1.87 Mbps
0 Mbps
2 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 1.87 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.8 Mbps-2 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 2 Mbps
2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
Upload Speed
0.72 Mbps
0 Mbps
0.83 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed
Upload speed achieved during the test was - 0.72Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 0.83 Mbps
We were unable to identify any performance problem with your service at this time.
It is possible that any problem you are currently, or had previously experienced may have been caused by traffic congestion on the Internet or by the server you were accessing responding slowly.
If you continue to encounter a problem with a specific server, please contact the administrator of that server in the first instance.
We have identified that you have additional services enabled on you broadband line, please click continue to run advanced service tests.

Very slow Broadband in Crawley after "Upgrade to u...

7.5 days after a service upgrade in my Crawley area I am still experiencing a painfully slow broadband connection.
Speedtester tonight has recorded the dizzy speeds of 45Kbps Download / 366Kbps Upload. My BT Vision service does not want to know. My IP profile is 135Kbps.
A factor in this may be that I had NO service for the first two days after the upgrade.
I am mystified why this is so slow - my previous experience of line faults in the last two years was nothing like this, & service stabilised within 2 days.
Last month during consultation over a separate BT Vision issue I was advised I was seeing 4.7 meg.
BT India seem confident my broadband speed will self-restore if I wait another few days, but I am not so confident. I have tonights Speedtest & hub line status
Speedtester 20:25 26/10/10
FAQ
Test1 comprises of two tests
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
45 Kbps
0 Kbps
250 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speed achieved during the test was - 45 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 100-250 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :280 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 444 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 135 Kbps
The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 9.84:40.87:49.29 (SBE:NBEBE)
These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.
The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes.
2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
Upload Speed
366 Kbps
0 Kbps
444 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
>Upload speed achieved during the test was - 366 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 444 Kbps
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state
Connected
Connection time
1 day, 9:41:15
Downstream
283 Kbps
Upstream
446 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
25.3 dB / 15.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
52.5 dB / 30.1 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
18.1 dBm / 12.0 dBm

Hi DCAI
I can have this investigated for you.
Drop me an email to the email address in my profile. Please remember to include your BT Account number, telephone number and a link to this thread.
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Very slow broadband for 2 months

Hi,
Having problems with very slow broadband for the past 2 months. I'm supposed to be getting 7.5 Mb download speeds but its nowhere near at the moment. More like 0.3 Mb download 0.6 Mb upload. Just installed brand new homehub a few days ago...but no change.
Do i need to post any more info? Thanks a lot...any help will be much appreciated!
Ste
ADSL line status<script type="text/javascript"></script>Connection information<script type="text/javascript"></script>
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 15:07:24
Downstream
575 Kbps
Upstream
828 Kbps
ADSL settings<script type="text/javascript"></script>
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
33.3 dB / 8.6 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
29.0 dB / 14.8 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
20.8 dBm / 12.4 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
7
Loss of Signal (Local)
2
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
748 / 247
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
294 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
nil / 1002
Error Seconds (Local)
2
<script type="text/javascript"></script>
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With your line attenuation you should be getting a sync speed of 16000 kbps and a profile of about 14 Meg, however it looks like you line has been capped at 1/2 a Meg, that is why your noise margin is so high ( should be around 6dB ) now this could be due to a line fault ( loss of framing/signal ) or a problem with your internal wiring.
However since you have has this problem for so long your best bet is to ring BT India on 0800 111 4567 and try and get a SFI fault raised so an Openreach broadband engineer can come and see if they can sort the problem out.
Below is a copy of my stats, as an example.
ADSL line status
Connection Information
Line state
Connected <script type="text/javascript"></script>
Connection time
5 days, 04:11:55
Downstream
8,173 Kbps
Upstream
1,057 Kbps
ADSL Settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
6.0 dB / 5.7 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
44.6 dB / 22.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
12.4 dBm / 1.6 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote)
0 / 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
42072 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
8262 / 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
278529 / 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote)
735 / 0
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Arch just got painfully slow (for the third time)

arch has slowly been getting slower bit by bit, but I let it slide for a while. started up my laptop today and everything is painfully slow. Pacman takes a couple minutes just to retrieve new update lists, yaourt takes minutes before displaying anything, when I start X/Openbox it's about 5 or 10 minutes before I can even right click open a menu. Yesterday, I was opening up GIMP in a matter of seconds, but it just took about a minute or two to load. Can't imagine this'd be a hardware issue because the laptop is a few months old and hasn't had any problems - other OSes on the drive load fine and all. My / partition is ext3 and has a bit under 1GB of free space - I didn't realize how much space I needed to distribute everything when I formatted everything and I've been meaning to repartition the drive. Is there any chance that could be what's slowing down my computer so much?
Last edited by sa (2008-10-02 03:40:47)

[sa@psd ~]$ mount
/dev/sda7 on / type ext3 (rw)
none on /dev type ramfs (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/sda5 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sda8 on /home type jfs (rw)
/dev/sda1 on /ntfs type fuseblk (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[sa@psd ~]$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda7 8.0G 6.5G 1.1G 87% /
none 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda5 43M 17M 25M 40% /boot
/dev/sda8 55G 4.2G 51G 8% /home
/dev/sda1 100G 39G 62G 39% /ntfs
[sa@psd ~]$
How can I measure disk activity?
Something else must be happening because even the bash prompt at startup after logging in takes a little while to show up. I'm not sure what to do
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I tried to update the latest software update for my MacBook pro (which was on 10/12) and after it started to update it restarted like normal but when it started back up it was running painfully slow and none oft programs will open.They all quit unexpectal

I tried to update the latest software update for my MacBook pro (which was on 10/12) and after it started to update it restarted like normal but when it started back up it was running painfully slow and none oft programs will open.They all quit unexpectedly. iTunes microsoft word all of them quit unexpectedly. Help!

Exact same problem with my 2010 MBP 2.4ghz 4gb ram 10.6.8. iTunes said update was needed, Software Update ran with various updates including a security update, truthfully didn't pay much attention, I always install the Apple updates. After the restart it took 3-4 times longer than normal to get to the login screen, same to get to the desktop but I'm familiar with that occurring on update restarts. Unfortunately it got worse from there. Performed a full shutdown and startup. Same long boot. After the desktop finally loads every mouse button press received a 2 minute beachball. I use menu-meters and both processors are under 10%. Waited a few minutes for disk utilities to launch, repair permissions estimates 3 hours for a typical <10 minute process. Activity monitor shows nothing over 10% CPU most of the time however ReportCrash pops to the top often. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. BTW zero problems until this update.

Slow broadband speed for weeks and sometimes drops...

I am having a slow broadband, getting very slow download and time-out.
Have a look at my BT Hub 2's line status. This hub is connected to the main socket, no other sockets or extension as I have cut out the internal cable extension to the faceplate (to rule out any interference or any problem with internal cable).
It is still the same and it gets quite a lot of errors in the space of nearly 15 hours, is this not good?
Regards
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 14:58:53
Downstream
1,312 Kbps
Upstream
448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
15.8 dB / 7.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
57.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
17.3 dBm / 12.4 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
0
Loss of Signal (Local)
0
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
116739 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
22 / N/A
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
N/A / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
12
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Still the same...
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state   Connected
Connection time   3 days, 20:41:40
Downstream   1,312 Kbps
Upstream   448 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI   0/38
Type   PPPoA
Modulation   ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type   Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)   15.3 dB / 7.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)   57.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up)   17.3 dBm / 12.4 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)   0
Loss of Signal (Local)   0
Loss of Power (Local)   0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)   118979 / 111
CRC Errors (Down/Up)   116 / N/A
HEC Errors (Down/Up)   N/A / 83
Error Seconds (Local)   69
I have to point it out that I do check the line status from time to time over the years and I do not recall seeing the noise margin much lower than 15db.

From the old forum.... Slow broadband speeds in th...

FROM THE OLD FORUM Original post by John Jorgensen...
Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 9:17 AM
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Hi,
I have had bt broadband opt3 for almost 3 months now and have always had a healthy 9mb+ connection, however have noticed it being very slow in the evening when I come home from work, I checked the speed last nite as iplayer was constantly freezing and was getting 1mb . A bit upset by this as I got bt broadband to play my ps3 online and to get faster speeds on my laptop, and I use these services mostly at nite.
I checked my speed this morning and was getting 11mb, is this normal or am I being capped I cant believe Id be going over my download limit. Can someone from bt get back to me on this?
Thanks
John
alison griffiths
Posts: 54
Registered: 11/3/09
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 11:22 AM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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Welcome to the world of BT , the tv advert when he says " business slow" when trying to load a webpage is not other companies thats BT.
John Jorgensen
Posts: 2
Registered: 9/2/09
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 12:11 PM   in response to: alison griffiths in response to: alison griffiths
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Yes Alison, I think I can see that now. I wouldnt mind if broadband was a bit slower at peak times, I know thats normal, but when I'm only getting 1mb when my max is 14mb, I just dont feel I'm getting what I pay for. And when it gets to the point where I cant watch iplayer without it stuttering everywhere and online games lagging on the ps3, this is certainly not what I'm paying for.
I was hoping one of the mods here would help me and check my line and see if there is any cap on the line and get it removed.
I really dont wanna phone India, I deal with them 5 days a week as is...
Think I will just send one of the mods an email to check my line and see if it is being capped or if somethings wrong.
anthony dickerson
Posts: 72
Registered: 4/26/07
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:52 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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You will never get decent speeds on Iplayer,
BT limit it because they want you to subscribe to their precious BT Vision service.
The only way you are guaranteed to get decent speeds on BT is to subscibe to BT Vision and also unlimited broadband.
Then you will get priority when you stream TV at your exchange unlike fighting it out with all the other broadband users as you currently are for the available bandwith.the more over subscribed your local exchange the worse it is
Paddy B Mod
Posts: 199
Registered: 10/13/08
   Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 23, 2010 2:04 PM   in response to: anthony dickerson in response to: anthony dickerson
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Hi John,
I can take a look at the network side of things for you, to see if there is anything I can do to help improve your speed during peak periods. Please could you drop me an email with your BT account details? Please also include a link to this thread. It would also be very helpful if you could run a few speed tests using www.speedtester.bt.com when you feel your Broadband is running slow. I can then check those results from here.
Thanks
Paddy
BT Forum Moderator - [email protected] - if you're emailing please include a link to your thread so I can reference back to it.
Mateusz Sokolin...
Posts: 2
Registered: 10/11/08
   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 7:33 PM   in response to: John Jorgensen in response to: John Jorgensen
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Well John i'll tell you what it is...
First of all welcome to BT and I hope you'll enjoy 18months of pain and suffer.
OK here it goes....
If you look at your contract, find a rule that says Fair Usage Policy.
Basically it states that BT will cap anyone that is abusing their lines.
However, it does not say what are the limits after which you are going to be capped for how long and at what times. (I'll come back to this later and explain)
If you ring 08007076044 I'm sure that someone will confirm my theory. As constant 1MBit between 6PM till 11/12 PM is actually FUP applied on to your account.
Ok time to explain my frustration about FUP.
Since I signed my contract with "lovely" BT for constant 4 months I had similar issue but it took me even longer to find out what is going on and how to deal with this problem (thanks to google).
FUP team states that if you exceed 100GB in a month (everyone will admit that these days 100GB is nothing when a single game for PS3/XBox360/PC sometimes is more than 5GB and 1080p film is about 12GB) will cap you for a month at peak times to outstanding and superfast 1Mbit (about 130-150KB/s).
I'be been watching my download and for few months never exceeded that 100GB in a month. Been ringing FUP team to verify when suddenly they told me that from (cant remember exactly) March FUP will apply only to accounts that are using Torrents and other P2P.
you won't believe how happy I was hearing that.... So i've started to download and next month guess what.... 1Mbit connection.
Really mad rang FUP team and asked them what on earth is going on. They confirmed that its only P2P and I've explained them that I only use Youtube, BBC iPlayer, Rapidshare, Steam and XBox Live, Beatport (just don't understand how ppl can use torrents and other P2P as they are just way to slow). So they were happy to take the cap off my broadband connection.
Next month same issue solved exactly the same way.
After that for consecutive few months I had no problem whatsoever until September where FUP Team said that there is no such thing and FUP applies to everyone.
So just want to say that BT is rubbish that can't keep their word.
I went to one of the sales advisor in the shopping centre and asked him how FUP works as it does not say in the contract "how, when, who and what".
So he said that policy is applied based on amount of files downloaded within that 100GB. So if I download e.g. 3x 50GB (although its 150GB altogether) files I wont be affected but 100x 1GB will put a cap on me.
I've been so curious if what he said was right and started to download 2x 60GB and guess what... Got frigging FUP placed on my account!!!.
I've got 2months left with them and will be extremely happy to cancel my contract, moreover, I will do everything in my power to sue them under EU Consumer Rights Law (that states that contract should be clear and fair to both sides) as Fair Usage Policy is one of those things that allows BT to do anything they want to their customers;
1. No clear explanation of what FUP is.
2. Does not states the amount of downloaded data required to have cap on the acount
3. Does not states for how long it will be applied
4. Does not states when it will be applied
If you look at e.g. Virgin Broadband everything is clearly written in nice and understandable way. It warns you at what times FUP will be applied under what circumstances and for how long. Isn't it what we all want to know??
Alex Owen
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
Posted: Jan 24, 2010 9:35 PM   in response to: Mateusz Sokolin... in response to: Mateusz Sokolin...
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@Mateusz I think I maybe a victim of this outragous stint BT have done. I have 2 XBOX 360's running on XBOX Live, 2 Desktop PCs connected to the web constantly, and 3 laptops, we have a torrent sharing running and World Of Warcraft on one of the PCs. All of this is shared across a 6 person family. How can a family where two members goto to college and university do their college ork, download application such as VB.net do their coursework and revise without the hassle of a **** connection. Seriously BT get your ******* head outta your **** and stop this ********, we are customers, we pay for what we are offered. When I signed up several years ago I could download everything on the net woithout infracions on my line being set in motion. You altered my contract without telling me. You will lose custom from this. Also you have ****** my wireless
Edited by: Alex Owen on Jan 24, 2010 9:36 PM
amanda jones
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:42 PM   in response to: Alex Owen in response to: Alex Owen
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You lot are lucky, We wish we could be capped to 1mbit. Our IP profile is capped to 500kbit because BT say the line isn't good enough for anything more. We are paying for option3 up to 8mbit and BT have said we must continue to pay for it for the remainder of the contract, or buy ourselves out of it early, the reason they give.... Up to 8mbit means up to 8mbit. If you dont get 8mbit then TOUGH LUCK SUCKERS!!
The outcome? We feel like we've been turned over by a dodgey second hand car salesman called BT. The internet deal he flogged us was a dog, a ringer, it wasn't cosher and certainly had a false MOT certificate.
Computer Geek
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 8:49 PM   in response to: amanda jones in response to: amanda jones
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Hi Amanda,
Why have you joined BT Option 3 when you can not get what BT can offer?
No pun intended but you are a bit of a sucker for paying high prices where other suppliers are cheaper and can provide what your line can support.
CG
amanda jones
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we moved house last october to this one, the connection was rubbish from the get-go, BT said the router was broken and we needed a new one, we said OK. That "OK" meant that we had entered into a new contract for option 3 same as out old one. The router wasn't broken, the new one didnt fix or improve the problem, we have since asked for a price reduction or compensation and been told "no". we are in contract and can pay to buy ourselves out of it if we like but otherwise we have to pay for option 3 and recieve fixed rate 500kb.
Clare Thurston
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   Re: Slow broadband speeds in the evening all of a sudden
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Hi Amanda,
I think you'll find that the Hold To Term rules have changed. BT are now unable to charge you for the account if you no longer require it. It is against OFCOM's rulings for a company to make more money out of you as a leaving customer than an existing one. However, You will need to pay for the connection charge (if that has not expired it's original differed contract) which is £40. A cancellation fee of £25 if you are simply cancelling and not migrating using a MAC key and for any hardware. The Routers are advertised at £88 and i would suggest that if they believed on to be faulty then that would be replaced under guarantee and not be put on a differed basis. I would check exactly what they say the are charging you and query this through OFCOM. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/

Months of impecable service form BT as an option 3 customer. (I've even recommended BT to people)
but
For the past 2 weeks peak traffic has murdered my connection.
I can get 14mbit off peak, and it used to drop to about 7-9 at peak times.
Now its down to 1-2mbit at peak times. (no i haven't breached FUP as I check my btinternet inbox for the 80GB warning)
I think its resonable to experience drop off but 90%!!!
BT advertising says fast speeds at peak times. less than 2mbit is not fast. (that the governments minimum standard!!!)
I don't know how to procede because when I'm experiencing these issues if I ring up I will end up waiting so long to speak to someone (because its peak time) the concection wiill be better again.
I can think of no recourse other than to approach trading standards...
Guarnetee me 5mbit at peak times (enough to stream HD iplayer) and I'd be happy
That is what BT vision customers are in essence are getting + what ever their PC is using.
Fair usage? what about Fair Supply.

ITunes 9.2.1 iPad painfully slow, iPhone 4 fine

Ever since I updated to version 9.2.1 the backup time for my iPad is painfully slow.
I ran a backup on my iPhone4 and it took about 5 minutes for a full backup and sync. So I ran downstairs, grabbed an adult beverage from the fridge, started working on my mac mini. After 60 minutes I went to grab some info off the iPad and it's still backing up an hour later.
System:
iPhone & iPad sync to a Windows 7 PC.
(Trust me if i could migrate without having to wipe my phone and iPad settings they would be on the mac mini)
I've rebooted my PC and iPad several times with no luck.
This has been running perfectly fine with iTunes 9.2.

Requirements to install iOS 4.2.1, this is from http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1061
System Requirements
* Mac or PC computer with USB 2.0 port
* iTunes 10.1 or later
Requirements for iTunes 10.1 on a Mac (this is from http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ )
Macintosh Hardware
* Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5 or G4 processor
* Intel, PowerPC G5 or 1.0GHz PowerPC G4 or faster processor is required to play Standard Definition video from the iTunes Store
* 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or faster processor is required to play HD video, an iTunes LP, or iTunes Extras from the iTunes Store
* 512MB of RAM; 1GB is required to play HD video, an iTunes LP, or iTunes Extras
* Screen resolution of 1024x768 or greater; 1280x800 or greater is required to play an iTunes LP or iTunes Extras
* Playing videos also requires at least 16MB of video RAM
* Broadband Internet connection to use the iTunes Store
* Apple combo drive or SuperDrive to create audio, MP3, or back-up CDs; some non-Apple CD-RW recorders may also work.
* Apple SuperDrive to back up your library to DVDs; some non-Apple DVD-RW drives may also work.
Macintosh Software
* Mac OS X version 10.5 or later
* QuickTime 7.6 or later
* Support for HE-AAC requires QuickTime 7.6.4 or later
* Safari 4.0.3 or later
* 200MB of available disk space

Time Machine backup painfully slow all of a sudden

For some reason my time machine backups have become painfully slow for some reason. They were fine earlier today, then IIRC I booted windows, then booted back into OSX to run a backup. Despite there being only 1 or two changes (files added to the system) time machine began "preparing backup" by going through all the files on my HDD! Now, it is backing up, but at the rate of about 5 Kb/s!
Something is wrong. I've tried deleting the progress file in the backup folder and "resetting" TM by deselecting the backup drive and selecting it again. Nothing worked. Why would TM be so slow all of a sudden?
Has anyone any ideas?

iBookguy wrote:
No pre-backup thinning needed: 18.98 GB requested (including padding), 205.25 GB available
Copied 105384 files (7.2 MB) from volume Mac OSX.
That is a bit suspicious, but not necessarily wrong. Something caused it to think about 16 GB had been changed (it adds 20% for the "padding" in the message).
How are you running Windoze? Is it on a separate partition? If you're running it via virtualization software, with the vm file on an OSX disk but excluded from TM, that's a possible explanation.
105384 files in only 7.2mb? I doubt it...something seems fishy
Those counts are nearly always very high, and sometimes crazy high. There's some indication it's counting all the metadata, extended attributes, etc., as separate files.
If in doubt, boot up from your Install disc and do a +*Repair Disk+* on your boot volume. Then reboot normally and run another backup. That should trigger a "deep traversal," where TM will compare everything on your system with it's backups, to be sure it's got everything it should.

Re: Slow broadband every night 10pm-Midnight

I am experiencing very slow broadband every night from 10pm. I searched the forum and saw this post and notied it was marked as 'solved' Can you tell me what the problem is here and how to solve it? I
magnamundian wrote:
Subject says it all really, switched to BT around 1 month ago and every night between 10pm and Midnight my broadband slows to a speed that would make dial-up blush. After midnight things ramp back up to normal. I don't P2P and this situation is consistent regardless of whether I have used the broadband heavily during the day (Netflix) or not used the broadband at all (until I tried to use at 10pm), so I'm discounting any ideas of traffic shaping or limits.
BT Line/Speed Checker results (http://diagnostics.bt.com/speedtest/)
After a good 10 minutes wait (not the 45 seconds advertised) the Exchange > HomeHub test came back with... well nothing really, the nifty Exchange > House graphic disappeared (after 10 minutes) and I suppose the results page was due to appear but after another 10 minutes I was still looking at "transferring data from BT.com" in the bottom of my browser... If I manage to get it to complete the cycle later I'll post the result.
At all other times of day the broadband lives up to expectations. Any advise appreciated, we previous had no problems with BE Broadband except for dire connections to US/Japan Servers (Sony/Square Enix etc), which was pretty much a problem of insufficient bandwidth on their backbone network.
Additional information from BTHomeHub.home:
ADSL Line Status
Connection information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
9 days, 18:20:04
Downstream:
20,609 Kbps
Upstream:
1,276 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
2.1 dB / 6.8 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
27.5 dB / 16.6 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
0.0 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
1086302352 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
3453520 / 1589
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote):
0
HEC Errors (Down/Up):
65406711 / 1420
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
0 / 364
t is not clear to me what to do from the contents of this thread. Thanks.
magnamundian wrote:
Subject says it all really, switched to BT around 1 month ago and every night between 10pm and Midnight my broadband slows to a speed that would make dial-up blush. After midnight things ramp back up to normal. I don't P2P and this situation is consistent regardless of whether I have used the broadband heavily during the day (Netflix) or not used the broadband at all (until I tried to use at 10pm), so I'm discounting any ideas of traffic shaping or limits.
BT Line/Speed Checker results (http://diagnostics.bt.com/speedtest/)
After a good 10 minutes wait (not the 45 seconds advertised) the Exchange > HomeHub test came back with... well nothing really, the nifty Exchange > House graphic disappeared (after 10 minutes) and I suppose the results page was due to appear but after another 10 minutes I was still looking at "transferring data from BT.com" in the bottom of my browser... If I manage to get it to complete the cycle later I'll post the result.
At all other times of day the broadband lives up to expectations. Any advise appreciated, we previous had no problems with BE Broadband except for dire connections to US/Japan Servers (Sony/Square Enix etc), which was pretty much a problem of insufficient bandwidth on their backbone network.
Additional information from BTHomeHub.home:
ADSL Line Status
Connection information
Line state:
Connected
Connection time:
9 days, 18:20:04
Downstream:
20,609 Kbps
Upstream:
1,276 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI:
0/38
Type:
PPPoA
Modulation:
G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type:
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up):
2.1 dB / 6.8 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up):
27.5 dB / 16.6 dB
Output power (Down/Up):
0.0 dBm / 12.6 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up):
1086302352 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up):
3453520 / 1589
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote):
0
HEC Errors (Down/Up):
65406711 / 1420
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
0 / 364

A "lay" explanation is this.
As IMJ has stated, at night the noise margin is dropping to a level whereby it becomes difficult for the DSL to bitload the data into the ADSL spectrum without undue error correction and bitswapping, and often increased error rate.
This situation tends to throttle down throughput .... and if it got worse, which clearly it isn't doing, it's just staying at a poor level .... the modem would drop the connection, and renegotiate .... and come back with target margin, at which juncture it would bitload and throughput would return to normal.
So what IMJ is saying is ... if it doesn;t drop and continues to hobble along .... force a drop, or reset it, and it will come back as if it had dropped by the modem forcing a drop.
In the end DLM will hopefully get hold of the situation and set the line parameters in a fashion which will sustain a connection and bitload properly 24 hours a day .... but sometimes it needs help, and especially if it didn't linetrain properly.
If it continues manual intervention is useful to set the noise margin accordingly until the line has re-trained.
Resetting the hub or modem is not a good idea with DSL, however in this instance if an automatic cure is not forthcoming, it is the ONLY time I would advocate a router reset, especially at night, when margin is depleted.

No explanation for painfully slow broadband.

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