No FW400 in new Macbook Pro???

All my Audio Hardware, External HD and Video Cameras uses FW400. WHY drop it in the new model?

There is absolutely no need for an extra port.
There is. It's not the best idea to daisy-chain bus powered devices. A scenario that can happen with a notebook. When I'm on travel, I'm often connecting two bus-powered 2.5" drives to my PowerBook G4: one with a FW800 port and one with a FW400 port. No need for swapping then. While I agree that most people won't need it, I'm the living proof that at least some people "absolutely" need two ports. (Don't get me even started on the FW vs. USB thing. I have reasons why I prefer FW over USB, so there's no need to discuss it any further.)
It gets even worse if you want to connect a FW audio interface and a drive. With two FW ports you can also go all bus-powered to a certain degree. With one FW port only it's a no-go. More power bricks to carry around. And even when powered, with some audio interfaces (Alesis iO26 with FW400) I'm getting the best results when I connect a hard drive to the FW800 port - not daisy-chained to the port on the device! Besides, every audio interface manufacturer recommends to connect the device directly to the computer port, not within a chain.
Yes, surely you can add a FW ExpressCard for more ports. One more device/adaptor to carry around.
(As a side note, the lack of a second FW port was the second main reason why I quickly ordered a discounted "old" MBP "classic" to replace my PB, instead of the brand new shiny glossy MBP.)

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New macbook Pro setback for Audio Production.

the new macbook pro don't come with a Firewire 400 port anymore.
everybody knows that usb is too slow for audio transfer and Firewire 800 is usual.
audio interfaces that use firewire 400 can't be used and with only one firewire 800 port there's no room left 'cause we need that to connect the external drives with audio files.
most interfaces need to be connected directly to the computer.
Any Ideas????

I, too, have an issue with the port configuration on MBPs -- too many USB2.0 ports, not enough FW800 ports. Nevertheless, please note that:
1. Bilingual FW800 FW400 cables (really good ones) are available for less than $20.
2. You can daisy chain external FW HDDs (even heterogeneously, i.e. you can cable your computer to a FW800 device using a FW800 cable and then use a FW400 cable to connect the first drive to a FW400 HDD, etc.). This capability is dependent on having redundant or multi-protocol drive enclosures (that is, you will need drives that have at least two FW ports, such as two FW800 ports or a FW800 port plus a FW400 port, not just a single USB2.0 port).
3. You can go hog wild and purchase a full-on FW800 hub/repeater like the NitroAV Professional Firewire/1394b 8-Port device (google it). I use this device to connect five external HDDs to my MBP (four FW800 drives and one FW400 drive). This hub will set you back $150 -- not trivial, but an elegant solution if you use multiple drives, and it comes with the AC power adapter (believe it or not, some hub manufacturers require you to purchase the AC adapter separately). In my configuration, six ports are used -- five for the drives and the sixth to connect the MBP via a FW800 cable. The hub has the additional advantage of eliminating several of the cables that would otherwise connect directly to my computer, which is, after all, a laptop; the fewer things I have to connect/disconnect when I move my MBP around, the better. You can think of this as a do-it yourself version of the docking station that Apple forgot to give us, at least as far as drive connectivity is concerned!
As an aside, my MBP (see model notes below) does in fact have both a FW800 and a FW400 port. I wish Apple configured unibody MBPs to include two USB2.0 ports and two FW800 ports -- but the above tips make the world right.
Finally, I just don't get the gripe about cabling costs. The unibody MBPs are high end laptops -- most purchasers will have invested well over $3K in their machines. There are a thousand usage patterns; I would much rather buy what I need for my applications without incurring the expense of purchasing bundled stuff that I don't need and which winds up in a (bursting at the seams) cable/doodad drawer.

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What do I need to get the MacBook Pro connected to the Cinema Display?
Thanks!
Alan.

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I've heard that Final Cut Pro will not work on the new Mac Book Pro laptops.
Has anyone else heard this? It may take some time before they get an upgrade fror this.
I'm keen to upgrade from my 17" Powerbook G4 to the new MacBook Pro for video editing, using photoshop and after effects etc. Has anyone else heard about speed improvement in this area?
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EZ><

Yes, I believe to some degree they needed to get something out there and this is filler. I've been wanting a new 15", but will continue to use my old one. I believe it is more pro than the new MBP. I am not one of those complainers, but I live by my pci slot, especially on location, and the express/34 situation is a nightmare right now. I've read a few posts on different forums about the fw400 port not getting enough power and it being traced to the built-in isight. I don't know if it's true, but wouldn't be surprised.

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I'm surprised that the folks at the Apple Store couldn't guide you. You just need a firewire cable with the proper fw400 connector on one end and a fw800 connector on the other. Here's one source for both cables and adapters:
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DDDS wrote:
.. the MacBook Pro doesn't have the same D-shaped connection port. (Sorry for the inadequate terminology.) ..
excellent discription, like that
your MBpro has a fw800 connector, the old cable is a fw400..
so, you need a firewire 800/4 pin cable.. any electronic supplier, ~10-15$ ...
in case, they don't offer any, there're fw400/fw800 adapters.. you can use your old cable

Firewire Chip - New Macbook Pro

Hi,
I was wondering what kind of chip is used for the firewire interface in
the new Macbook Pro? I hope it still is a Texas Instrument one ...
otherwise I´ll probably have troubles with my audio interfaces.
Thanks for the help!

handar76 wrote:
The manufacturer is Deltaco I think. Just a cable including converter (or maybe even not). I'm gonna buy an adapter right away and try.
No conversion necessary, just a different connector, but the interface should downshift to the slower speed automatically. Perhaps you can confirm via System Profiler that the device is connected and at slower speed? Are you familiar with System Profiler utility?
You did say that a FW400 HD also did not work with your cable, right? I heard elsewhere on this topic that audio devices are somewhat suspect due to the FW chipset on the late 2008 MBP. I don't know if the M-Audio was the device mentioned.
Did you actually try a FW800 device? If you have a device (LaCie Big Disk) with multiple interfaces(FW400 & FW800) that would be ideal to try. I know from reading that 'target mode' will no longer work, so that's out. Just brainstorm to find some device that should work at FW800 directly or call Apple Support to confirm which FW400 devices/cables/adapters should work before you spend big $$.
My 2¢.
Henry
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I have an older macbook circa 09 and purchased a new macbook pro 2012. The older one has been backed up to an older time capsule. How do i move the files to my new macbook?

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1. IF that was the case, how come you make it like that, so the hard disks are put to sleep when active, like when you are recording?
2. IF that was the case, how come you make it like that, so it makes a noise in the recording when they are put to sleep? and
3. That's not the case, as I don't have that option enabled, both with or without power supply.
He didn't have any answer to this, and said he would call me up later. Three days later he called me up and told me that the noise was most probably because of noise caused by ground loops. I told him that I have read a little about it, and that it most likely wasn't that, but he still sent me an informative mail on how to fix it. I read it, and followed it, but as expected: nothing got better. I told him that, and he said that he would look into it - after two weeks of vacation. As I start my study on August 11. and are going to record from about that date, I can't wait, so today I called AppleCare and spoke to another guy. He let me wait 20 minutes on line(my expense, ofcourse), before saying that they didn't have an answer now, but would call me back tomorrow.
I also bought a Mighty Mouse with the Macbook Pro. I was well aware of the fact that it isn't configured for right click, so I configured it when I plugged it in, but still right click wouldn't work. I called AppleCare and explained, and the guy told me that "it is a very special mouse". He explained how to use it, what I already knew, and as I didn't have more money to call with, the phone ended the call. Needless to say, it still isn't working properly. The right click works every now-and-then, and the buttons on the side works once a week.
As I already told you, I am a musician. After not having to spend times fixing things, like in linux, the music software was the biggest reason I got a Mac. I bought Logic Studio, and was amazed when I got it. It was great! ...for 20 minutes, then I got this overload message, despite the fact that I had two tracks with a couple of loops, and a brand new computer. This bugged me very much, but what was worse was the fact that two weeks later, the new version of Logic came out, and I got no discount on upgrading.
As you might understand, I am starting to get really ****** off. I called Eplehuset, the most official Apple reseller in Norway, and they told me it would take two weeks to fix my Macbook Pro, and that I wouldn't get a machine while waiting. Since I start in the university in 8 days, I can't do that. I just have to load off some of my rage here, and I also hope that you have some tips on how to fix the hard drive.

My eyes just glazed over...Please in the future break down each of your issues with paragraphs separated by two carriage returns. It would be much easier when trying to address your issues.
Go to Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse
And edit your mouse settings to do what you want it to do.
Secondly, this is not the place to vent. If you have a complaint, there is:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/
or http://www.apple.com/contact/
We are just end users here helping other end users.
Third, from my understanding, it would appear you are concerned about the noise the hard drive makes when it falls asleep? Why not put your machine in screen saver mode instead? Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Energy Saver turn off all Energy Saver settings, or set them to run Never.
Fourth, if your machine was purchased just a few days ago, you may still be able to get an exchange from the store, quicker than you can get a repair done. You may want to look into that possibility.
Fifth, it does appear you found the Logic forum. I would persist in asking there how to solve your technical issue with Logic regarding the audio. It may be you don't have to do anything special to the hard drive. Remember audio can be transmitted by wire, avoiding ambient sounds.
Good luck!

Use back up from Time Machine to start new MacBook Pro

Using the Time Machine and an external Hard Drive I back up my 3 years old MacBook (running Lion and with hard drive of 250 GB)
I am planning to purchase a new MacBook Pro (with a hard drive of 750 GB)
how do I transfer all my software and Data to my new computer?
if I plug my Time Machine to it will set up my new computer just the way I have my old Computer?
will all software work properly?
Any thing else I should have in Consideration??

K2spuky wrote:
Using the Time Machine and an external Hard Drive I back up my 3 years old MacBook (running Lion and with hard drive of 250 GB). Will all software work properly?
The old machine is running Lion already, then all your programs are ready already for the new machine with Lion.
how do I transfer all my software and Data to my new computer?
if I plug my Time Machine to it will set up my new computer just the way I have my old Computer?
Plug the TimeMachine drive into the new computer, boot it and when you go through the setup there will be a opportunity to transfer from the TM drive.
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You might decide to fresh install instead, create the same user on the new machine then install all your programs from fresh original sources and then transfer files manually from the older machine, droppping the contents right into the same user folders as on the old machine.
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What is the exact name of the cable I need to connect my old hard drive from my macbook pro, which has been removed from the computer, to my new macbook pro? I need to transfere files from the old hard drive to the new computer.

No eSATA to USB. Just a SATA/IDE to USB adapter. Google SATA/IDE to USB adapter and you will get tons of links to buy them. Most likely your local computer electronics store has them, although they might be more expensive buying locally than online.
I have several. You can get either USB 2, which what I recommend, or USB 3. USB is backward compatible so a USB 3 adapter will work on a USB 2 port and a USB 2 adapter will work on a USB 3 port. Backward compatible in both directions.
I suggest a USB 2 type because there have been some problems with certain USB 3 devices, the USB 3 interface used isn't all that good in those certain devices. USB 3 is still fairly new where as USB 2 has been around for over 10 years.
synghem wrote:
Thank you LowLuster,
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I got the new MacBook Pro i5 2.3 the day it came out. So maybe a week and half ago.
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The network drop outs are short but are noticeable and if a ping is going I can see the drops
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No FW400 in new Macbook Pro???

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