No GPU Acceleration or MPE benefit (FX3800)

Yikes
Installed CS5 (Full Paid Version) yesterday. Shaking it down today.
Everything is working at light speed except.....
I do not get any GPU Acceleration or MPE benefit from the QUADRO FX3800 (or PPRO).
As soon as I apply any GPU accelerated effect (eg Ultra, Levels etc...) .
or Scale down a P in P - I get a RED RENDER BAR
This is a minimal sequence with Vid 1 :color bars, Vid 2: mxf 720p green screen scene, Vid 3: 720p mxf for PNP
Thought it was the Driver - updated to latest (NVIDIA 8.17.11.9759 - 16/4/2010)
Did not resolve it!
Flicked between Hardware and Software acceleration - no difference.
Any suggestions from the team ?
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I was the one who posted it because that is what our Nvidia rep said. He said the Quadro 3800 would have the same
3 layer limit as the 285GTX due to the 1GB ram on both cards. If that is incorrect then the information they gave me was incorrect.
BTW I will forward them this thread and ask them why they informed me otherwise. Thank you for the heads up.
Oh one last thing. Nvidia and Adobe stated the limiter was put in place because of the 1GB Frame buffer size limited performance in CS5 and they could only ensure performance with effect for 3 layers. If the Quadro FX 3800 is unlimited then that is completely false. Since the Quadro FX 3800 has a 260GPU in it and has 1/3 the ram bandwidth of a 285GTX then how does 1GB on the 285GTX require the limiter but the 1 GB Quadro card does not. This means Adobe is completely working with Nvidia to sell more Quadro FX cards and the limiter is a completely dishonest way to do it.
Note - After checking my email and speaking with my Adobe rep I changed the post. It was only our Nvidia rep that reported the limiter on both.

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