No menu bar in IE8

Whenever I open a PDF file in Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP, I do not have a toolbar or menu for Adobe Reader. I am unable to control how the pages are displayed, zoom in/out, save as, etc. Any suggestions? Let me know if my question doesn't make sense. Thank you.

Do you mean save the file out to the hard disk then open in Acrobat Reader itself? Yes, that does work, but inconvient. I do a lot of research on the Internet with Google and will open many PDF files in separate tab windows along with oher web pages - nice to have it all under one instance of IE. It seems on my other computers in the past I had a tool bar / menu that was present when using IE - something changed of went away. Any more suggestions?

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.. The Drop down menu is not behaving well...
As you may c by the picture, the drop down menu now moves to the right. and is not because of the object to its left, i've modified that. Zinger Products Drop Down Menu also does the same.

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eliz926 wrote:
please believe me that i've searched without success in finding a resolution for this problem.
for Right-Aligned Spry Horizontal Menu bar, IE8 incorrectly renders it on the left after prompting for running scripts or ActiveX controls.
here's the css file: THE ONLY THING CHANGED WAS THE FLOAT DIRECTION in ul.MenuBarHorizontal li (left to right)
.... so what am i missing in getting a horizontal spry menu on the right side of page?
When you right float the container (LI) for each menu item, some browsers will do exactly that, float the first menu item to the right, place the second menu item left to that and so forth. Other browsers (IE) will not react to a right float of the container (LI).
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change ul.MenuBarHorizontal li back to left float
add a width (32em) and a right float to ul.MenuBarHorizontal
Gramps

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Below is IE8 image lacking top menu background:
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At the bottom of SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css, you will find
@media screen, projection
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I've upgraded to 1.6.1, but it still doesn't work in IE8 unless in compatibility mode. http://jimgreenrealty.com/Test.html
Works fine in other browsers and other Spry elements appear to work normally in IE8. Can anyone help?
Thanks,
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If you deselect compatibility mode on IE8 the menu bar disappears (on
all our computers anyway). Works fine in all other versions of IE and
all other browsers. Updated to Spry 1.6.1 and still no avail.
Here it is w/o the emulating statement: http://jimgreenrealty.com/Test.html
The other pages on the site still have it.
Thanks for looking at it.
*/ <mailto:[email protected]>
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Not sure how this forum works, I responded by email and it posts my email address. I don't seem to be able to edit to remove it. Please remove the email address. Thanks,

IE8 and Spry vertical menu bar

The spry menu bar has disappeared in IE8, still works fine in Firefox, and did in IE7: http://jimgreenrealty.com/Test.html
What needs to be done to get it working again? Thanks,

Thanks, I have the download, but I'm not sure how to install it. Can
you give a hint? It may be obvious but I don't dabble in Spry very often.
Thanks,
/Steve <mailto:[email protected]>B <mailto:[email protected]>/

Pulling my hair out over IE8 issues with spry menu bar

Its a classic story, but for the life of me, I can't figure this out. I've seen it in a hundred different forums (all slightly different versions of the same problem) . I've put together a horizontal spry menu bar (version 1.6.1). It works fine in Chrome, Safari, Firefox, etc..., but goes nuts in IE.
layout and positioning of the submenus cascades horizontally, goes far right, etc.
A sample of the menu sits at http://www.alaskanrafting.com/mockup/newindex.html
I'm sure it's just a line or two in my CSS, but I sure can't find it.
the CSS sheet would be at http://www.alaskanrafting.com/mockup/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css
If anyone has any pointers, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks

Try adding/modifying the following
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li {
    display: block;
    float: none !important;
    width: auto;
    white-space: nowrap;
    border-bottom: solid 1px #EEE;
There needs to be an !important for the float so that it overrides the JS.
Gramps

Spry Menu Bar acting weird in IE

Hello,
I am relativley new to Dreamweaver and I built a website using CS4. I never did a spry menu bar and I have one on my site. The menu bar works fine in firefox, in safari it seems to work as it is aligned right, but my flash player doesn't. But the main problem is in IE. The grey background I have for the spry bar is in the right spot but the actual links are offset, and when you role over them the submenus are on the left and also offset. I tried messing around with the hack IE in the spry css but not really sure what I am doing as I don't know code too much. I also am Mac based and the problem in IE is on the PC. Also I built all the pages in Illustrator and inserted them in and used hot spots. I am not sure if that may have something to do with it.   If any one can help I would really appreciate it. The website I created is http://www.menaceaudio.com.
Also if this helps here is my SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css
@charset "UTF-8";
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: auto;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    cursor: default;
    width: 41.25em;
    padding: 0px;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    margin: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 14pt;
    position: relative;
    text-align: center;
    cursor: pointer;
    float: left;
    padding: 0;
    color: #FFF;
    background-color:#ccc;
    width: 8.23em;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    float: left;
    left: -1000px;
    width: 8.23em;
    position: absolute;
    background-color: #CCC;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: 0px;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    width: 8.23em;
    background-color: #CCC;
    position: relative;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin-top: -5%;
    margin-right: 0;
    margin-bottom: 0;
    margin-left: 95%;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    left: -20px;
    top: 30px;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    cursor: pointer;
    text-decoration: none;
    font-family: eurostile;
    font-size: 14px;
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    padding: 0.5em;
    margin: 0.5px;
    display: block;
    color: #036;
    border-top-width: thin;
    border-right-width: thin;
    border-bottom-width: thin;
    border-left-width: thin;
    border-top-style: solid;
    border-bottom-style: solid;
    border-left-style: solid;
    border-top-color: #333;
    border-right-color: #333;
    border-bottom-color: #333;
    border-left-color: #333;
    border-right-style: solid;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
    color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-repeat: repeat-x;
    font-family: eurostile;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position:absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
    ßfloat: left;
    position: relative;
    display: inline;

I'm using IE8, and I don't see the offset errors of which you speak. I do recommend restoring the IE hacks at the bottom of the stylesheet to the original, however.
I also notice that the width of the individual menu items (top level) is forcing "CONTACT" to a second line. You can safely remove the pixel width on the containing div, returning to 100%. But your paddings and widths of top level menu items may be the forcing issue here.
Beth

Spry menu bar in firefox not telescoping main li horizontally

I am having trouble with my spry menu bar in firefox and chrome not telescoping horizontally. In IE8 they tile horizontally but in firefox(3.6.10) and chrome(6.0.472.63) they stay tiled vertically.
Example:
IE8
[menu1][menu2][menu3][menu4][menu5]
FF and Chrome
[menu1]
[menu2]
[menu3]
[menu4]
[menu5]
I do not think that it is the css due to it not telescoping when I view it in live view in dreamweaver cs4. SO I am thinking it is someting in the javascript that is just for IE.
ANy help or a push in the right direction would be great.
here is the css
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    cursor: default;
    width: 100%;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    position: relative;
/*    text-align: left;*/
    cursor: pointer;
    width: 19.8%;
    float: center;
    z-index: 100;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: 8.2em;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
    float: none;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    width: 8.2em;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border: 1px solid #CCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #EEE;
    padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
    color: #333;
    text-decoration: none;
    text-align: left;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.NoPadding
    padding: 0.39em 0.75em;
*//* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
    color: #FFF;
    background-color:transparent;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#2A0000;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 100% 50%;
    z-index:100;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
    z-index:100;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
    z-index:100;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
    z-index:100;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        float: left;
        background: #FFF;
        z-index:100;
#MenuBar1{
    position:relative;
    margin-top:-10px;
    margin-bottom:0px;
    z-index:1010;
***And the javascript***
var Spry; if (!Spry) Spry = {}; if (!Spry.Widget) Spry.Widget = {};
Spry.BrowserSniff = function()
    var b = navigator.appName.toString();
    var up = navigator.platform.toString();
    var ua = navigator.userAgent.toString();
    this.mozilla = this.ie = this.opera = this.safari = false;
    var re_opera = /Opera.([0-9\.]*)/i;
    var re_msie = /MSIE.([0-9\.]*)/i;
    var re_gecko = /gecko/i;
    var re_safari = /(applewebkit|safari)\/([\d\.]*)/i;
    var r = false;
    if ( (r = ua.match(re_opera))) {
        this.opera = true;
        this.version = parseFloat(r[1]);
    } else if ( (r = ua.match(re_msie))) {
        this.ie = true;
        this.version = parseFloat(r[1]);
    } else if ( (r = ua.match(re_safari))) {
        this.safari = true;
        this.version = parseFloat(r[2]);
    } else if (ua.match(re_gecko)) {
        var re_gecko_version = /rv:\s*([0-9\.]+)/i;
        r = ua.match(re_gecko_version);
        this.mozilla = true;
        this.version = parseFloat(r[1]);
    this.windows = this.mac = this.linux = false;
    this.Platform = ua.match(/windows/i) ? "windows" :
                    (ua.match(/linux/i) ? "linux" :
                    (ua.match(/mac/i) ? "mac" :
                    ua.match(/unix/i)? "unix" : "unknown"));
    this[this.Platform] = true;
    this.v = this.version;
    if (this.safari && this.mac && this.mozilla) {
        this.mozilla = false;
Spry.is = new Spry.BrowserSniff();
// Constructor for Menu Bar
// element should be an ID of an unordered list (<ul> tag)
// preloadImage1 and preloadImage2 are images for the rollover state of a menu
Spry.Widget.MenuBar = function(element, opts)
    this.init(element, opts);
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.init = function(element, opts)
    this.element = this.getElement(element);
    // represents the current (sub)menu we are operating on
    this.currMenu = null;
    this.showDelay = 250;
    this.hideDelay = 600;
    if(typeof document.getElementById == 'undefined' || (navigator.vendor == 'Apple Computer, Inc.' && typeof window.XMLHttpRequest == 'undefined') || (Spry.is.ie && typeof document.uniqueID == 'undefined'))
        // bail on older unsupported browsers
        return;
    // Fix IE6 CSS images flicker
    if (Spry.is.ie && Spry.is.version < 7){
        try {
            document.execCommand("BackgroundImageCache", false, true);
        } catch(err) {}
    this.upKeyCode = Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_UP;
    this.downKeyCode = Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_DOWN;
    this.leftKeyCode = Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_LEFT;
    this.rightKeyCode = Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_RIGHT;
    this.escKeyCode = Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_ESC;
    this.hoverClass = 'MenuBarItemHover';
    this.subHoverClass = 'MenuBarItemSubmenuHover';
    this.subVisibleClass ='MenuBarSubmenuVisible';
    this.hasSubClass = 'MenuBarItemSubmenu';
    this.activeClass = 'MenuBarActive';
    this.isieClass = 'MenuBarItemIE';
    this.verticalClass = 'MenuBarVertical';
    this.horizontalClass = 'MenuBarHorizontal';
    this.enableKeyboardNavigation = true;
    this.hasFocus = false;
    // load hover images now
    if(opts)
        for(var k in opts)
            if (typeof this[k] == 'undefined')
                var rollover = new Image;
                rollover.src = opts[k];
        Spry.Widget.MenuBar.setOptions(this, opts);
    // safari doesn't support tabindex
    if (Spry.is.safari)
        this.enableKeyboardNavigation = false;
    if(this.element)
        this.currMenu = this.element;
        var items = this.element.getElementsByTagName('li');
        for(var i=0; i<items.length; i++)
            if (i > 0 && this.enableKeyboardNavigation)
                items[i].getElementsByTagName('a')[0].tabIndex='-1';
            this.initialize(items[i], element);
            if(Spry.is.ie)
                this.addClassName(items[i], this.isieClass);
                items[i].style.position = "static";
        if (this.enableKeyboardNavigation)
            var self = this;
            this.addEventListener(document, 'keydown', function(e){self.keyDown(e); }, false);
        if(Spry.is.ie)
            if(this.hasClassName(this.element, this.verticalClass))
                this.element.style.position = "relative";
            var linkitems = this.element.getElementsByTagName('a');
            for(var i=0; i<linkitems.length; i++)
                linkitems[i].style.position = "relative";
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_ESC = 27;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_UP = 38;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_DOWN = 40;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_LEFT = 37;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.KEY_RIGHT = 39;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.getElement = function(ele)
    if (ele && typeof ele == "string")
        return document.getElementById(ele);
    return ele;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.hasClassName = function(ele, className)
    if (!ele || !className || !ele.className || ele.className.search(new RegExp("\\b" + className + "\\b")) == -1)
        return false;
    return true;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.addClassName = function(ele, className)
    if (!ele || !className || this.hasClassName(ele, className))
        return;
    ele.className += (ele.className ? " " : "") + className;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.removeClassName = function(ele, className)
    if (!ele || !className || !this.hasClassName(ele, className))
        return;
    ele.className = ele.className.replace(new RegExp("\\s*\\b" + className + "\\b", "g"), "");
// addEventListener for Menu Bar
// attach an event to a tag without creating obtrusive HTML code
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.addEventListener = function(element, eventType, handler, capture)
    try
        if (element.addEventListener)
            element.addEventListener(eventType, handler, capture);
        else if (element.attachEvent)
            element.attachEvent('on' + eventType, handler);
    catch (e) {}
// createIframeLayer for Menu Bar
// creates an IFRAME underneath a menu so that it will show above form controls and ActiveX
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.createIframeLayer = function(menu)
    var layer = document.createElement('iframe');
    layer.tabIndex = '-1';
    layer.src = 'javascript:""';
    layer.frameBorder = '0';
    layer.scrolling = 'no';
    menu.parentNode.appendChild(layer);
    layer.style.left = menu.offsetLeft + 'px';
    layer.style.top = menu.offsetTop + 'px';
    layer.style.width = menu.offsetWidth + 'px';
    layer.style.height = menu.offsetHeight + 'px';
// removeIframeLayer for Menu Bar
// removes an IFRAME underneath a menu to reveal any form controls and ActiveX
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.removeIframeLayer = function(menu)
    var layers = ((menu == this.element) ? menu : menu.parentNode).getElementsByTagName('iframe');
    while(layers.length > 0)
        layers[0].parentNode.removeChild(layers[0]);
// clearMenus for Menu Bar
// root is the top level unordered list (<ul> tag)
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.clearMenus = function(root)
    var menus = root.getElementsByTagName('ul');
    for(var i=0; i<menus.length; i++)
        this.hideSubmenu(menus[i]);
    this.removeClassName(this.element, this.activeClass);
// bubbledTextEvent for Menu Bar
// identify bubbled up text events in Safari so we can ignore them
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.bubbledTextEvent = function()
    return Spry.is.safari && (event.target == event.relatedTarget.parentNode || (event.eventPhase == 3 && event.target.parentNode == event.relatedTarget));
// showSubmenu for Menu Bar
// set the proper CSS class on this menu to show it
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.showSubmenu = function(menu)
    if(this.currMenu)
        this.clearMenus(this.currMenu);
        this.currMenu = null;
    if(menu)
        this.addClassName(menu, this.subVisibleClass);
        if(typeof document.all != 'undefined' && !Spry.is.opera && navigator.vendor != 'KDE')
            if(!this.hasClassName(this.element, this.horizontalClass) || menu.parentNode.parentNode != this.element)
                menu.style.top = menu.parentNode.offsetTop + 'px';
        if(Spry.is.ie && Spry.is.version < 7)
            this.createIframeLayer(menu);
    this.addClassName(this.element, this.activeClass);
// hideSubmenu for Menu Bar
// remove the proper CSS class on this menu to hide it
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.hideSubmenu = function(menu)
    if(menu)
        this.removeClassName(menu, this.subVisibleClass);
        if(typeof document.all != 'undefined' && !Spry.is.opera && navigator.vendor != 'KDE')
            menu.style.top = '';
            menu.style.left = '';
        if(Spry.is.ie && Spry.is.version < 7)
            this.removeIframeLayer(menu);
// initialize for Menu Bar
// create event listeners for the Menu Bar widget so we can properly
// show and hide submenus
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.initialize = function(listitem, element)
    var opentime, closetime;
    var link = listitem.getElementsByTagName('a')[0];
    var submenus = listitem.getElementsByTagName('ul');
    var menu = (submenus.length > 0 ? submenus[0] : null);
    if(menu)
        this.addClassName(link, this.hasSubClass);
    if(!Spry.is.ie)
        // define a simple function that comes standard in IE to determine
        // if a node is within another node
        listitem.contains = function(testNode)
            // this refers to the list item
            if(testNode == null)
                return false;
            if(testNode == this)
                return true;
            else
                return this.contains(testNode.parentNode);
    // need to save this for scope further down
    var self = this;
    this.addEventListener(listitem, 'mouseover', function(e){self.mouseOver(listitem, e);}, false);
    this.addEventListener(listitem, 'mouseout', function(e){if (self.enableKeyboardNavigation) self.clearSelection(); self.mouseOut(listitem, e);}, false);
    if (this.enableKeyboardNavigation)
        this.addEventListener(link, 'blur', function(e){self.onBlur(listitem);}, false);
        this.addEventListener(link, 'focus', function(e){self.keyFocus(listitem, e);}, false);
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.keyFocus = function (listitem, e)
    this.lastOpen = listitem.getElementsByTagName('a')[0];
    this.addClassName(this.lastOpen, listitem.getElementsByTagName('ul').length > 0 ? this.subHoverClass : this.hoverClass);
    this.hasFocus = true;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.onBlur = function (listitem)
    this.clearSelection(listitem);
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.clearSelection = function(el){
    //search any intersection with the current open element
    if (!this.lastOpen)
        return;
    if (el)
        el = el.getElementsByTagName('a')[0];
        // check children
        var item = this.lastOpen;
        while (item != this.element)
            var tmp = el;
            while (tmp != this.element)
                if (tmp == item)
                    return;
                try{
                    tmp = tmp.parentNode;
                }catch(err){break;}
            item = item.parentNode;
    var item = this.lastOpen;
    while (item != this.element)
        this.hideSubmenu(item.parentNode);
        var link = item.getElementsByTagName('a')[0];
        this.removeClassName(link, this.hoverClass);
        this.removeClassName(link, this.subHoverClass);
        item = item.parentNode;
    this.lastOpen = false;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.prototype.keyDown = function (e)
    if (!this.hasFocus)
        return;
    if (!this.lastOpen)
        this.hasFocus = false;
        return;
            else if (element.currentStyle)
                    value = element.currentStyle[Spry.Widget.MenuBar.camelize(prop)];
    catch (e) {}
    return value == 'auto' ? null : value;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.getIntProp = function(element, prop)
    var a = parseInt(Spry.Widget.MenuBar.getStyleProp(element, prop),10);
    if (isNaN(a))
        return 0;
    return a;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.getPosition = function(el, doc)
    doc = doc || document;
    if (typeof(el) == 'string') {
        el = doc.getElementById(el);
    if (!el) {
        return false;
    if (el.parentNode === null || Spry.Widget.MenuBar.getStyleProp(el, 'display') == 'none') {
        //element must be visible to have a box
        return false;
    var ret = {x:0, y:0};
    var parent = null;
    var box;
    if (el.getBoundingClientRect) { // IE
        box = el.getBoundingClientRect();
        var scrollTop = doc.documentElement.scrollTop || doc.body.scrollTop;
        var scrollLeft = doc.documentElement.scrollLeft || doc.body.scrollLeft;
        ret.x = box.left + scrollLeft;
        ret.y = box.top + scrollTop;
    } else if (doc.getBoxObjectFor) { // gecko
        box = doc.getBoxObjectFor(el);
        ret.x = box.x;
        ret.y = box.y;
    } else { // safari/opera
        ret.x = el.offsetLeft;
        ret.y = el.offsetTop;
        parent = el.offsetParent;
        if (parent != el) {
            while (parent) {
                ret.x += parent.offsetLeft;
                ret.y += parent.offsetTop;
                parent = parent.offsetParent;
        // opera & (safari absolute) incorrectly account for body offsetTop
        if (Spry.is.opera || Spry.is.safari && Spry.Widget.MenuBar.getStyleProp(el, 'position') == 'absolute')
            ret.y -= doc.body.offsetTop;
    if (el.parentNode)
            parent = el.parentNode;
    else
        parent = null;
    if (parent.nodeName){
        var cas = parent.nodeName.toUpperCase();
        while (parent && cas != 'BODY' && cas != 'HTML') {
            cas = parent.nodeName.toUpperCase();
            ret.x -= parent.scrollLeft;
            ret.y -= parent.scrollTop;
            if (parent.parentNode)
                parent = parent.parentNode;
            else
                parent = null;
    return ret;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.stopPropagation = function(ev)
    if (ev.stopPropagation)
        ev.stopPropagation();
    else
        ev.cancelBubble = true;
    if (ev.preventDefault)
        ev.preventDefault();
    else
        ev.returnValue = false;
Spry.Widget.MenuBar.setOptions = function(obj, optionsObj, ignoreUndefinedProps)
    if (!optionsObj)
        return;
    for (var optionName in optionsObj)
        if (ignoreUndefinedProps && optionsObj[optionName] == undefined)
            continue;
        obj[optionName] = optionsObj[optionName];
Any help would be appreciated
Ray

Uhh no, both issues are still occurring. Please look at the site http://appventurousllc.com in
Firefox and IE and you will see that the issues are still present.

Spry Menu Bar CS4

I have used the horizontal Spry Menu Bar for the navigation for my website. I used a tiered system because I needed two levels of drop downs for the menu. When we loaded the site to the web yesterday it worked fine on Mozilla but there was a glitch on IE. Instead of dropping down in a stacking order, the submenus would be lined up horizontally along the screen in a long line. I'm not sure if I need to edit the .css file for the spry menu bar, or the .js file. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Note: I've attached the javascript code AND the css code for reference.

I was just struggling with this, too. I think I have it fixed -- it's looking good in IE7 and IE8 (my standalone of IE6 has conflicts and refuses to open this morning).
You need to update the CSS. Give this a try.
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    clear:left;
    float: none;
    background-color: transparent;
     color: #878189;
Take a look -- the menus should be displaying vertically in a list in IE, but you'll see the background color isn't extending to fill the entire list box.
So add the background-color property with the correct color to the ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul entry.
I haven't gone through your code line by line, but those two changes fixed it for me. Let me know if it works.

Spry Menu Bar Positioning Problem in IE

I have a Dreamweaver-created Spry Menu Bar drop down menu which works perfectly in every browser on my Mac and on my PC . . . EXCEPT Internet Explorer (who woulda thunk it?!!)
In all browsers except for IE, the 3 submenu items under "Door Systems" and "Gallery" appear exactly as they should in a vertical row, positioned just below the brown line below the navigation links and all the same width. But in IE they appear higher up and with different widths. IE is ignoring the rules for width and position.
<ul id="MenuBar2" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
    <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="closet_doors_gallery.html">DOOR SYSTEMS</a>
      <ul>
        <li><a href="sliding_doors_nyc_nj.html">DOOR PROFILES</a></li>
        <li><a href="bifold_doors_nyc_nj.html">PANELS COLORS</a></li>
        <li><a href="room_dividers_nyc_nj.html">DOOR SYSTEM TYPES</a></li>
      </ul>
    </li>
</ul>
<ul id="MenuBar3" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
    <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">GALLERY </a>
      <ul>
        <li><a href="#">SLIDING DOORS</a></li>
        <li><a href="#">BI-FOLD DOORS</a></li>
        <li><a href="#">ROOM DIVIDERS</a></li>
      </ul>
    </li>
</ul>
Here is the page where you can see the problem if you view it with IE, and see that it's fine in Safari, and Firefox,    Chrome and Opera, Mac or PC:
http://2113web.com/indeco/index.html
I have a feeling it's a simple fix of the css, but I can't figure it out - I would really appreciate anyone's help with it - thank you!
Below is the CSS:
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    font-weight:bold;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    position: relative;
    text-align: left;
    cursor: pointer;
    width: auto;
    float: left;
    white-space: nowrap;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 63px; /*THIS POSITIONS THE SUBMENU BELOW THE TOP MENU*/
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    float: none;
    background-color:#f5f5e8;
    height:25px; /*THIS POSITIONS THE SUBMENUS HEIGHT*/
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin-top: -5%;
    margin-right: 0;
    margin-bottom: 0;
    margin-left: 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border:none;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: transparent;
    padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
    color: #59330d;
    text-decoration: none;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #afa06f;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #afa06f;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;
Perry

Hi and thank you very much. It was a little confusing as to whether you meant to add the rules you suggested or to replace them, or a combination of both, but I puzzled it out. I created a new MenuBarHorizontal.css file in a blank page and then made the changes you suggested and it works! Yay! I had to do a bit of tweaking to get it to look just the way I wanted, but it now works correctly in ie 7 and 8 and still works fine in everything else.
Interestingly enough, I had to change the margin-top: 63px; rule in "ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible" to 40px to get it positioned properly vertically, and I had to get rid of the "border-bottom: solid 1px #EEE;" in "ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li", which caused the submenu items to have quite a lot of vertical space between them - I'm not sure why!
I also had to get rid of all the syling rules in the "SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item" section, as well as the one you added: "ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu {
    padding: 0.5em 2em 0.5em 0.75em;"
With that done, it works great in both ie7 and ie8, so thank you for the help. Below is the new css that works, in total.
Not being as familiar with the subtleties of CSS as you and many others obviously are, I'm REALLY curious as to exactly what is different that causes this to work now, and would be happy to hear your expanation, if you feel like taking the time to explain. If not, no problem - it works and that is the most important thing! So, thank you again -
Perry
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    position: relative;
    text-align: left;
    cursor: pointer;
    width: auto;
    float: left;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    margin-top: 40px;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    display: block;
    float: none !important;
    width: auto;
    white-space: nowrap;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border: 1px solid #CCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #f5f5e8;
    padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
    color: #333;
    text-decoration: none;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
      background-color: #f5f5e8;
    color: #afa06f;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
      background-color: #f5f5e8;
    color: #afa06f;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
    background: transparent;
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;

Spry Menu Bar disappears absolute position

Hello all this is my first time posting on this site so bear with me. I have a semi-transperant spry menu bar that i inserted into the header div, over an image. I moved the menu bar -38px, when the position is set to relative the menu bar is visible, however the old position of the menu bar has a blank white space there. I think this is due to the relative position property. When i change it to absolute the whole menu bar disappears? http://www.brightlikethesun.com/index2.html (the position is back to relative to show the menu bar and also background for header is blue to show the space)
CSS
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
width: 100%;
margin: auto;
position: relative;
top: -38px;
font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace;
opacity: 0.7;
filter: alpha(opacity=60); /* For IE8 and earlier */
margin-right: auto;
margin-left: auto;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 100%;
position: relative;
text-align: left;
cursor: pointer;
width: 20%;
float: left;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style-type: none;
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 70%;
z-index: 1020;
cursor: default;
width: 50em;
position: absolute;
left: -1000em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
width: 50em;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
position: absolute;
margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
left: auto;
top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
border: 1px solid #CCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
display: block;
cursor: pointer;
background-color: #EEE;
padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
color: #C0C0C0;
text-decoration: none;
background: rgba(98, 135, 167, .4)
background: #45484d; /* Old browsers */
background: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #45484d 0%, #000000 50%); /* FF3.6+ */
background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, color-stop(0%,#45484d), color-stop(100%,#000000)); /* Chrome,Safari4+ */
background: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, #45484d 0%,#000000 100%); /* Chrome10+,Safari5.1+ */
background: -o-linear-gradient(top, #45484d 0%,#000000 50%); /* Opera 11.10+ */
background: -ms-linear-gradient(top, #45484d 0%,#000000 50%); /* IE10+ */
background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #45484d 0%,#000000 50%); /* W3C */
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#45484d', endColorstr='#000000',GradientType=0 ); /* IE6-9 */
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
background-color: #33C;
color: #FFF;
background: #7d7e7d; /* Old browsers */
background: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #7d7e7d 0%, #0e0e0e 50%); /* FF3.6+ */
background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, color-stop(0%,#7d7e7d), color-stop(100%,#0e0e0e)); /* Chrome,Safari4+ */
background: -webkit-linear-gradient(top, #7d7e7d 0%,#0e0e0e 50%); /* Chrome10+,Safari5.1+ */
background: -o-linear-gradient(top, #7d7e7d 0%,#0e0e0e 50%); /* Opera 11.10+ */
background: -ms-linear-gradient(top, #7d7e7d 0%,#0e0e0e 50%); /* IE10+ */
background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #7d7e7d 0%,#0e0e0e 50%); /* W3C */
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.gradient( startColorstr='#7d7e7d', endColorstr='#0e0e0e',GradientType=0 ); /* IE6-9 */
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
position: absolute;
z-index: 1010;
filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
display: inline;
f\loat: left;
background: #FFF;
html
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Bright Like The Sun -- San Antonio, TX</title>
<style type="text/css">

</style>
<link href="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />

<script src="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBar.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
</head>
<body>
<div class="container">
<div class="header"><a href="#"><img src="BLTS1.jpg" alt="BLTS" name="BLTS" width="100%" height="100%" id="BLTS" style="display: block;" /></a>
   <ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
     <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#"><center>Home</center></a></li>
     <li><a href="#"><center>Shows</center></a>
<ul>
         <li><a href="#"><u>Upcoming shows</u><br />
<br />
May 4th 2013 @<img src="502.jpg" width="5%" height="5%"><br />
Bright Like The Sun along with Little Science<br />
8pm 21+
</a></li>
               </ul>
     </li>
     <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#"><center>Merch</center></a>
       <ul>
         <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#"><u>Album</u><br /><img src="coda fin cover.jpg" width="15%" height="15%"><font size="4">Coda Fin</font><br />
Purchase Here or Itunes</a>
                    </li>
         <li><a href="#">Shirts--Coming Soon!</a></li>
         <li><a href="#">Various--Coming Soon!</a></li>
       </ul>
     </li>
     <li><a href="#"><center>Bio</center></a></li>
<li><a href="#"><center>Contact</center></a></li>
</ul></div>
<div class="sidebar1">
<p></p>
    <br />
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
</div>
<div class="content"><p align="right"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/brightlikethesun"><img src="FB.jpg" width="30" height="31" alt="Facebook" /></a><img src="twitter-icon.png" width="30" height="31" /></p>
    <p align="left"><img src="weare.jpg" width="185" height="72" /></p><p align="right"><iframe style="border:none" src="http://files.podsnack.com/iframe/embed.html?hash=adznldvg&t=1366488970" width="340" height="54" allowfullscreen="true" mozallowfullscreen="true" webkitallowfullscreen="true" ></iframe></p>
    <p><img src="BLTS2.jpg" alt="BLTS" width="411" height="297" align="left" /><img src="BLTS font.jpg" width="340" /> is a Post-Rock band from San Antonio. They were born in early 2012 from the collective desire to make beautiful, thought provoking, and at times, chaotic music. Much like fellow Texan bands like Explosions in the Sky and This Will Destroy You, they are entirely instrumental, and known for creating progressively intricate waves of ambiance that grow with intensity and an unabashed wash of emotion. Attuned to their affinity for dynamics, seeing them live takes the listener from deafening walls of orchestrated sound, to melodies so subtle that one finds themselves acutely aware of their own breathing. <br />
      Bright Like The Sun’s debut album, Coda Fin, was engineered/mixed by Alex Bhore (of This Will Destroy You), and mastered by TW Walsh (of Pedro The Lion). The record, which was self released, was made available on April 12, 2013.<br /><br /><img src="BLTS3.jpg" width="330" height="245" align="right" /></p>
<br />
<br />
    <h4>Bright Like The Sun Consists of:</h4>
    <p>Rob Mochen - Guitar <br />
    Chris Etheredge - Guitar/Keys <br />
    Christian Miranda - Bass <br />
    Steven Barrera - Drums    </p>
    <p><br />
    </p>
    <h4><u>Coda Fin</u> Release Date April 12th 2013    </h4>
    <h4><img src="coda fin cover.jpg" width="250" height="238" align="left" /><img src="venues.jpg" width="171" height="65" align="right" /><br />
    <br />
    <br />
    <br />
       <a href="http://502bar.com/"><img src="502.jpg" width="150" height="112" align="right" /></a><a href="http://www.gypsyloungeaustin.com"><img src="gypsylounge.jpg" / width="150" height="112" align="right"></a></h4>
    <p align="right"> </p>
</div>
<div class="footer">
    <p><font face="verdana" font size="2" font color="#FFFFFF">©2013 Bright Like The Sun All Rights Reserved</font></p>
    </div>
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
</script>
</body>
</html>

What I see:
You need a width on the ul.MenuBarVertical style. Make it the same width as the ul.MenuBarVertical li selector.
Remove the float: none; from this style:
ul.MenuBarVertical ul li
     width: 12em;
     float: none;
No such measurement as a half a pixel:
ul.MenuBarVertical ul
     border: .5px solid #CCC;
If you want a border, 1px is minimum...you repeat this incorrect half-pixel in several places.
Running your page through the W3C Validator returned this: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthydirections.ca%2F&charset=%28dete ct+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
Your initial errors are not declaring a DOCTYPE, which among other things, does not provide the browser with any information regarding how you want the code interpreted for your viewer. Some browsers guess well, some do not (IE).
This
     <html>
is insufficient.
Apply this in its place, and run through the validator again.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
Beth

Spry Menu Bar 2.0 (1.0) - Handling of widget generated CSS, placement and rendering problems in CSS

Hello:
I wanted to repost my question to re-frame the issue based on what I have learned thus far.
I am working on a website that has been developed using the Spry Menu Bar Framework UI (2.0) I.0, that has some peculiar rendering problems that affect IE 6 in particular. The CSS is reprinted below.
In particular, when I post the widget generated CSS in the head as it is orginally situated by the framework, the menu bar works fine. However, it seemed to me that I should be able to reduce page weight (an important consideration considering my target population) by placing it in the general style sheet governing the entire site.
When I place the styles at the beginning of the style sheet the menu doesn't render at all in any of the browsers (IE 6+, Firefox, Opera, Safari, Netscape, etc.) as it conflicts with the general rules governing links that appear later in the style sheet. When I place the styles specific to the Menu bar at the end of the style sheet, then the menu bar renders properly in all browsers except IE 6.
The odd thing is that the only way to ensure that the menu bar works in IE 6 is to keep the menu related styles in the head of each page. This raises problems related to page weight (not an insurmountable consideration if no other solution can be found) but still an issue. Likewise I need to support IE 6, again given the target audience/population. The issue obviously has something to do with specificity, but I am not certain that is the only consideration at work here. I have not tried the !important selector in regard to the menu, as IE 6 seems to only partially support this.
Thanks in advance for any advice or insight that can be provided. Thanks in particular to Martin for his contributions to my earlier question related to this issue.
Steve Webster.
The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows: (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
<style type="text/css">
/* -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles -- */
/* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
/* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
   these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
     These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
   .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
    .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
   You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
    They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
        MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
        MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
        MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned.
        MenuBarFixedCentered - - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                        and centered in its parent container.
        MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
    In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
   with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
    there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
#MenuBar {
    background-color:transparent;
   font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 17px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 80em;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
    background-color:#000088;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#ffffff;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 15px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:#000088;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:0px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none;
    padding: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 10px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#ffffff;
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
    width: 240px;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #2E35A3;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color:#2E35A3;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
   min-width:0%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                    and your personal taste.
                   0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                    on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                    menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                    the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
/* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
/* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
</style>
The CSS governing the site generally is reproduced below: (my belief is that it is the a:link, a:visited, a:hover, a:active styles that may be in conflict).
@charset "utf-8";
body {
    font: 100% Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
   min-height: 0; /* This is necessary to overcome the "haslayout" bugthat is found in Windows 7 in conjuction with IE8. For Moreinformation see: URL -- http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/haslayout.html */
    margin: 0; /* it's good practice to zero the margin and padding of the body element to account for differing browser defaults */
    padding: 0;
    text-align:center; /* This allows for the centering of the container and overcomes a bug inherent in IE 5 */
    color: #000000;
    list-style-image: none;
    background-color: #FCFCFC;
h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
color:#000066;
a:link {
    color: #151A96;
    text-decoration: underline;
a:visited {
    text-decoration: underline;
    color: #1B8DCD;
a:hover {
    text-decoration: none;
    color: #F30A0A;
a:active {
    text-decoration: underline;
    color: #151A96;
#container {
    width: 960px;
    margin: 0 auto; /* the auto margins (in conjunction with a width) center the page */
    text-align: left; /* this overrides the text-align: center on the body element. */
    background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Midsection %20_960.png);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
#header {
       padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elementsin the divs that appear beneath it. If an image is used in the #headerinstead of text, you may want to remove the padding. */
        width:960px;
        height:332px;
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Header_960 .png);
        background-repeat:no-repeat;
#header h1 {
    margin-right: 0px; /* zeroing the margin of the last element in the #header div will avoid margin collapse - an unexplainable space between divs. If the div has a border around it, this is not necessary as that also avoids the margin collapse */
    padding: 0; /* using padding instead of margin will allow you to keep the element away from the edges of the div */
    display:none;
#header img {
    display: none;
#Main_nav_contents {
    padding: 0;
    margin-top: 0px;
    height: 39px;
    width: 950px;
    padding-top: 275px;
    padding-left: 39px;
    z-index: 3;
#MenuBarVertical {
    margin-bottom: 50px;
    padding-top: 50px;
    padding-bottom:200px;
    padding-left: 15px;
    padding-right: 15px;
.mainContent_left {
   margin: 0;/* the right margin on this div element creates the columndown the right side of the page - no matter how much content thesidebar1 div contains, the column space will remain. You can removethis margin if you want the #mainContent div's text to fill the#sidebar1 space when the content in #sidebar1 ends. */
    padding-left:30px;
    padding-right:20px; /* remember that padding is the space inside the div box and margin is the space outside the div box */
    width: 600px;
    float: left;
.sidebar_right {
    float: right; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
    width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
    margin-top: 30px;
    margin-left:0;
    margin-right:10px;
    font-size:90%;
.mainContent_right {
    margin-left: 10px;
    padding-left:30px;
    padding-right:20px;
    width: 600px;
    float: right;
.sidebar_left {
    float: left; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
    width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
    margin-top: 30px;
    margin-left:30px;
    margin-right:0;
    overflow: hidden;
    font-size:90%;
.main_content_centered {
    width: 650px;
    margin-left: 155px;
.main_content_centered_header {
    margin-left: 75px;
.sidebar_textbox {
    margin: 0px;
    width: 260px;
    padding: 2px;
.sidebar_textbox_header {
    width:255px;
    height:58px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Header.png);
.sidebar_textbox_background_middle {
     width: 255px;
    padding-top: 12px;
    padding-bottom: 10px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
.sidebar_textbox_content {
   /* The width and padding are set as follows to accomodate quirks inbrowser rendering and to ensure that text is contained within thebackground of the text box */
    width: 230px;
    padding-left: 20px;
    padding-right: 40px;
.sidebar_textbox_footer {
    width:255px;
    height:64px;
background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Port rait%20Textbox%20Footer.png);
#issues_menu a:link {
    color: #151A96;
    text-decoration: none;
    font-weight:bold;
#issues_menu a:visited {
    color: #151A96;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-decoration: none;
#issues_menu a:hover {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-weight:bold;
    font-style: oblique;
    text-decoration: none;
#issues_menu a:active {
    color: #151A96;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-decoration: none;
#archives {
    padding-top: 15px;
    padding-right: 15px;
    padding-bottom: 20px;
    padding-left: 0px;
.landscape_textbox {
    width: 500px;
    margin-right: 0px;
    margin-left: 30px;
    padding-top:35px;
    padding-bottom: 25px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
.landscape_textbox_hdr {
    width:500px;
    height:38px;
    margin:auto;
    padding:0;
    background-image:
url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%2 0Header.png);
.landscape_textbox_middle {
    width:auto;
    margin:auto;
    padding-top: 12px;
    padding-bottom: 12px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/lan dscapte%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-y;
.landscape_textbox_content {
    width:450px;
    padding:25px;
.landscape_textbox_ftr {
    width:500px;
    height:44px;
    margin:auto;
    padding:0;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Lan dscape%20Textbox%20Footer.png);
#footer {
    padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear above it. */
    width: 960px;
    height: 222px;
    background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Footer%20_ 960.png);
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
#footer p {
   margin: 0px; /* zeroing the margins of the first element in the footerwill avoid the possibility of margin collapse - a space between divs */
    padding:0px; /* padding on this element will create space, just as the the margin would have, without the margin collapse issue */
    text-align:center;
    margin-left: 50px;
    margin-right: 50px;
    padding: 10px;
    font-size: small;
#footer h5 {
text-align:center;
.fltrt { /* this class can be used to float an element right in your page. The floated element must precede the element it should be next to on the page. */
    float: right;
    margin-left: 8px;
.fltlft { /* this class can be used to float an element left in your page */
    float: left;
    margin-right: 8px;
.clearfloat { /* this class should be placed on a div or break element and should be the final element before the close of a container that should fully contain a float */
    clear:both;
    height:0;
    font-size: 1px;
    line-height: 0px;
.dropcap {
    display: block;
    float: left;
    line-height: 80%;
    font-size: 250%;
    font-weight: bolder;
    color: #000066;
    padding: .03em .1em 0 0;
.red_arrows {
    list-style-position: outside;
    list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Arrow%20Large.png);
.blue_bullets {
    list-style-position: outside;
    list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Bullet%20Medium%20Fu ll.png);
.attention {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-size:x-large;
    font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: italic;
    font-weight:900;
.attention_small {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-size:large;
    font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: italic;
    font-weight:900;
.table {
    table-layout:fixed;
.blue {
    color: #00F;
#container .mainContent_left p .blue {
    color: #0303A0;

Hi Nancy:
The specific code that I am referring to is the CSS code governing the styling of the spry menu widget that only works in IE 6 if, and only if, it remains in the head of the web page. If removed and placed in a stylesheet, the IE plugins fail to compensate for the IE 6 "gap" bug. As I said, it doesn't make sense to me that, assuming specificity is addressed, that these can not be included in an external style sheet. I am looking for a) an explanation why they must remain embedded in the web page; and 2) any means by which I might be able to export them.
I will reproduce the specific css style (code) below: it should also be visable through reveal source --
Thanks again, Steve Webster.
The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows: (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
<style type="text/css">
/* -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles -- */
/* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
/* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
   these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
     These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
   .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
    .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
   You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
    They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
        MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
        MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
        MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned.
        MenuBarFixedCentered - - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                        and centered in its parent container.
        MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
    In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
   with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
    there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
#MenuBar {
    background-color:transparent;
   font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 17px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 80em;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
    background-color:#000088;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#ffffff;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 15px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:#000088;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:0px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none;
    padding: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 10px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#ffffff;
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
    width: 240px;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #2E35A3;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color:#2E35A3;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
   min-width:0%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                    and your personal taste.
                   0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                    on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                    menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                    the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
/* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
/* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
</style>

Problem with Spry Menu Bar 2.0 (1.0) re - CSS

Hello:
I am having some difficulty with a Spry Menu Bar (horizontal) 2.0 (1.0) that I have created. Initially I thought the problem was with regard to rendering issues on IE 6.0, however the problem seems to be more general than that and I have come to believe that it has to do with the CSS created by the Widget Browser and modified once imported into the webpage. Hence I have elected to post my issue here rather than on the spry page.
I have relied on the tutorial provided by David Powers (Bayside.css) and in addition other documentation regarding the Spry menu bar UI. The problem appeared to be one of IE 6 rendering the page with a gap that is created when the drop down menus appear, thus pushing down any divs that appear below the page.
However, through a painstaking process of trial and error my problem now seems to be that when I export the CSS generated by the widget browser to an external style sheet (the general style sheet governing the whole site), it conflicts with other CSS styles regarding links etc. The end result is that all the padding, background colours, background images, and text colours are lost. So long as the CSS remains within the head this doesn't happen.
My thinking is that this must have to do with issues of specificity, inheritence, etc.
The site can be viewed at the following URL: http://www.aclco.org/testing/index.html. In its current form all CSS related to the menu bar is found in the head of each page. (see CSS below).
My question is can I establish a separate style sheet for the horizontal menu bar and have those styles applied specifically (and only) to the menu bar. My only other alternative is to work through the remainder of the general style sheet and work through any issues of specificity/inheritance -- which may be the "best" practice, but it risks causing other "cascading" [sic] problems elsewhere.
Any advice or suggestions or directed reading (that would point to a solution) that could be offered would be greatly appreciated.
Steve Webster
The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows: (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
<style type="text/css">
/* -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles -- */
/* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
/* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
    these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or right pointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
     These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
    .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, all submenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
    .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
    You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top level menu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
    They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
        MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
        MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
        MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned.
        MenuBarFixedCentered - - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                        and centered in its parent container.
        MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
    In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
    with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets on the same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
    there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
#MenuBar {
    background-color:transparent;
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on on MenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 17px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 80em;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
    background-color:#000088;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Navigation%20Bar%20Segm ent-Dark.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#ffffff;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 15px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:#000088;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:0px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none;
    padding: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 10px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#ffffff;
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
    width: 240px;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #2E35A3;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Navigation%20Bar%20Segm ent%20Light2.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color:#2E35A3;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than the parent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                    and your personal taste.
                    0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of the MenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                    on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                    menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                    the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element for selection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu" (MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in a selector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6 ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets the specificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs as significant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lot of these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes for modern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these, as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js script.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser is Internet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditional comments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
/* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
/* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
</style>
The CSS governing the site generally is reproduced below: (my belief is that it is the a:link, a:visited, a:hover, a:active styles that may be in conflict).
@charset "utf-8";
body {
    font: 100% Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    min-height: 0; /* This is necessary to overcome the "haslayout" bug that is found in Windows 7 in conjuction with IE8. For More information see: URL -- http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/haslayout.html */
    margin: 0; /* it's good practice to zero the margin and padding of the body element to account for differing browser defaults */
    padding: 0;
    text-align:center; /* This allows for the centering of the container and overcomes a bug inherent in IE 5 */
    color: #000000;
    list-style-image: none;
    background-color: #FCFCFC;
h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
color:#000066;
a:link {
    color: #151A96;
    text-decoration: underline;
a:visited {
    text-decoration: underline;
    color: #1B8DCD;
a:hover {
    text-decoration: none;
    color: #F30A0A;
a:active {
    text-decoration: underline;
    color: #151A96;
#container {
    width: 960px;
    margin: 0 auto; /* the auto margins (in conjunction with a width) center the page */
    text-align: left; /* this overrides the text-align: center on the body element. */
    background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Midsection%20_960.png);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
#header {
        padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear beneath it. If an image is used in the #header instead of text, you may want to remove the padding. */
        width:960px;
        height:332px;
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Header_960.png);
        background-repeat:no-repeat;
#header h1 {
    margin-right: 0px; /* zeroing the margin of the last element in the #header div will avoid margin collapse - an unexplainable space between divs. If the div has a border around it, this is not necessary as that also avoids the margin collapse */
    padding: 0; /* using padding instead of margin will allow you to keep the element away from the edges of the div */
    display:none;
#header img {
    display: none;
#Main_nav_contents {
    padding: 0;
    margin-top: 0px;
    height: 39px;
    width: 950px;
    padding-top: 275px;
    padding-left: 39px;
    z-index: 3;
#MenuBarVertical {
    margin-bottom: 50px;
    padding-top: 50px;
    padding-bottom:200px;
    padding-left: 15px;
    padding-right: 15px;
.mainContent_left {
    margin: 0;/* the right margin on this div element creates the column down the right side of the page - no matter how much content the sidebar1 div contains, the column space will remain. You can remove this margin if you want the #mainContent div's text to fill the #sidebar1 space when the content in #sidebar1 ends. */
    padding-left:30px;
    padding-right:20px; /* remember that padding is the space inside the div box and margin is the space outside the div box */
    width: 600px;
    float: left;
.sidebar_right {
    float: right; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
    width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
    margin-top: 30px;
    margin-left:0;
    margin-right:10px;
    font-size:90%;
.mainContent_right {
    margin-left: 10px;
    padding-left:30px;
    padding-right:20px;
    width: 600px;
    float: right;
.sidebar_left {
    float: left; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
    width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
    margin-top: 30px;
    margin-left:30px;
    margin-right:0;
    overflow: hidden;
    font-size:90%;
.main_content_centered {
    width: 650px;
    margin-left: 155px;
.main_content_centered_header {
    margin-left: 75px;
.sidebar_textbox {
    margin: 0px;
    width: 260px;
    padding: 2px;
.sidebar_textbox_header {
    width:255px;
    height:58px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20He ader.png);
.sidebar_textbox_background_middle {
     width: 255px;
    padding-top: 12px;
    padding-bottom: 10px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20Mi ddle.png);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
.sidebar_textbox_content {
    /* The width and padding are set as follows to accomodate quirks in browser rendering and to ensure that text is contained within the background of the text box */
    width: 230px;
    padding-left: 20px;
    padding-right: 40px;
.sidebar_textbox_footer {
    width:255px;
    height:64px;
background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20Foo ter.png);
#issues_menu a:link {
    color: #151A96;
    text-decoration: none;
    font-weight:bold;
#issues_menu a:visited {
    color: #151A96;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-decoration: none;
#issues_menu a:hover {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-weight:bold;
    font-style: oblique;
    text-decoration: none;
#issues_menu a:active {
    color: #151A96;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-decoration: none;
#archives {
    padding-top: 15px;
    padding-right: 15px;
    padding-bottom: 20px;
    padding-left: 0px;
.landscape_textbox {
    width: 500px;
    margin-right: 0px;
    margin-left: 30px;
    padding-top:35px;
    padding-bottom: 25px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
.landscape_textbox_hdr {
    width:500px;
    height:38px;
    margin:auto;
    padding:0;
    background-image:
url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%20Header.png);
.landscape_textbox_middle {
    width:auto;
    margin:auto;
    padding-top: 12px;
    padding-bottom: 12px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/landscapte%20Textbox%20 Middle.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-y;
.landscape_textbox_content {
    width:450px;
    padding:25px;
.landscape_textbox_ftr {
    width:500px;
    height:44px;
    margin:auto;
    padding:0;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%20F ooter.png);
#footer {
    padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear above it. */
    width: 960px;
    height: 222px;
    background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Footer%20_960.png);
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
#footer p {
    margin: 0px; /* zeroing the margins of the first element in the footer will avoid the possibility of margin collapse - a space between divs */
    padding:0px; /* padding on this element will create space, just as the the margin would have, without the margin collapse issue */
    text-align:center;
    margin-left: 50px;
    margin-right: 50px;
    padding: 10px;
    font-size: small;
#footer h5 {
text-align:center;
.fltrt { /* this class can be used to float an element right in your page. The floated element must precede the element it should be next to on the page. */
    float: right;
    margin-left: 8px;
.fltlft { /* this class can be used to float an element left in your page */
    float: left;
    margin-right: 8px;
.clearfloat { /* this class should be placed on a div or break element and should be the final element before the close of a container that should fully contain a float */
    clear:both;
    height:0;
    font-size: 1px;
    line-height: 0px;
.dropcap {
    display: block;
    float: left;
    line-height: 80%;
    font-size: 250%;
    font-weight: bolder;
    color: #000066;
    padding: .03em .1em 0 0;
.red_arrows {
    list-style-position: outside;
    list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Arrow%20Large.png);
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    list-style-position: outside;
    list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Bullet%20Medium%20Full.png);
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    color: #F30A0A;
    font-size:x-large;
    font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: italic;
    font-weight:900;
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    color: #F30A0A;
    font-size:large;
    font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: italic;
    font-weight:900;
.table {
    table-layout:fixed;
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    color: #0303A0;

Hello Martin:
Thanks for your input. However I am not certain we have resolved this issue adequately, or understand the principles governing the css as regards this spry menu framework 2.0 (1.0).
For example, the menu only works in IE 6.0 if the css remains in the head. I agree with your original post that it shouldn't make any difference whether the css is posted in the head or in a separate style sheet (so long as specificity issues are addressed). Both should work -- and yet it doesn't.
If the CSS is placed in the separate style sheet governing the total site, it doesn't work for 6.0. If placed at the top of the style sheet, conflicts of specificity prevent the menu from rendering properly in any of the browsers causing the rules for general links to govern the menu.   This has been verified using a cross browser testing. If the styles are placed at the bottom of the style sheet to help them take precedence, they work in all the browsers except for IE 6.
The website I am building needs to support IE 6 for a variety of reasons, and because it is catering to the non-profit community and to low income persons, I am mindful of even small differences in page weight.
So for me, at least, the issue remains baffling.
I appreciate your input, but also would appreciate the input from others, and especially Adobe Community Professionals and employees. The spry framework in this regard is not well documented. I am not certain if this is exclusively a CSS problem, if it might also be complicated by the architecture of the spry framework, or if indeed other variables are at play.
I would be my hope that in resolving the problem, other users of the this particular spry framework might also benefit.
Thanks,
Steve.

Contents of page not displaying in IE, after Spry Menu Bar 2.0

Entire page displays in Firefox, Safari, Chrome. But in IE, nothing appears after the menu bar. Here's the link, and the code to follow:
http://nowagenewmedia.com/organica/
Code:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<title>Organica Natural Foods</title>
<link href="basic.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<link href="Spry-UI-1.7/css/Menu/basic/SpryMenuBasic.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryDOMUtils.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryDOMEffects.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryWidget.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryMenu.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/plugins/MenuBar2/SpryMenuBarKeyNavigationPlugin.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/plugins/MenuBar2/SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<style type="text/css">
/* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
/* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
    these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or right pointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
     These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
    .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, all submenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
    .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
    You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top level menu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
    They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
        MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
        MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
        MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned.
        MenuBarFixedCentered - - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                        and centered in its parent container.
        MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
    In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
    with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets on the same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
    there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
#MenuBar {
    background-color:#003300;
    font-family: "Lucida Sans Unicode", "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on on MenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 12px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
    border-color: #999999 #999999 #999999 #999999;
    border-width:0px;
    border-style: solid solid solid solid;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 900px;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 900px;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    background-color:transparent;
    border-width:1px;
    border-color: #cccccc #ffffff #cccccc #ffffff;
    border-style: none solid none solid;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none solid none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#ffffff;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding: 6px 19px 6px 19px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 12px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:1px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 6px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: solid solid solid solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 6px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#ffffff;
    padding: 6px 12px 6px 5px;
    width: 7em;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: transparent;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #999999;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #999999;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #003300;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #999999;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: #003300;
    min-width:0%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than the parent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-color: #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff;
    border-width:0px;
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                    and your personal taste.
                    0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of the MenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                    on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                    menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                    the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: #003300;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element for selection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu" (MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in a selector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6 ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets the specificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs as significant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lot of these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes for modern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these, as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js script.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser is Internet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditional comments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #999999;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #999999;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
/* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
</style>
<script type="text/xml">

</script>
</head>
<body background="media/wood.jpg">
<table width="882" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="table_main">
<tr>
    <td height="160" colspan="2"><img src="media/header.jpg" width="900" height="160" alt="header" /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
    <td height="35" colspan="2" class="nav_back"><ul id="MenuBar">
      <li> <a href="#">Home</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Organica's Kitchen</a>
        <ul>
          <li> <a href="#">Menus</a></li>
          <li> <a href="#">Catering</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li> <a href="#">Juice Bar</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Produce</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Supplements</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Grocery</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Body Care</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Events</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Contact</a></li>
    <script type="text/javascript">
// BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar
var MenuBar = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar2("#MenuBar", {
      widgetID: "MenuBar",
      widgetClass: "MenuBar MenuBarFixedCentered",
      insertMenuBarBreak: true,
      mainMenuShowDelay: 100,
      mainMenuHideDelay: 200,
      subMenuShowDelay: 200,
      subMenuHideDelay: 200
// EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544
      </script></td>
</tr>
<tr>
    <td width="211" height="400" class="left"><h2>Sign-up for our Loyalty Card<br />
    <img src="media/loyalty.jpg" width="200" height="129" alt="loyalty" /></h2>
      <hr width="90%" />
      <h2>Subscribe to our e-News
        <style>
.link,
.link a,
.signupframe
    color: #000000;
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size: 13px;
    .link,
    .link a {
        text-decoration: none;
    .signupframe {
        border: 0px solid #000000;
        background: transparent;
.signupframe .required {
    font-size: 10px;
        </style>
      </h2>
      <form method="post" action="https://app.icontact.com/icp/signup.php" name="icpsignup" id="icpsignup8190" accept-charset="UTF-8" onsubmit="return verifyRequired8190();" >
<input type="hidden" name="redirect" value="http://organicanaturalfoods.com/thanks.html" />
<input type="hidden" name="errorredirect" value="http://www.icontact.com/www/signup/error.html" />
<div id="SignUp">
<table width="200" class="signupframe" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5">
    <tr>
      <td align="left">
        <div align="center">
          <input name="fields_email" type="text" value="Your Email Here..." />
        </div></td>
    </tr>
    <input type="hidden" name="listid" value="70490" />
    <input type="hidden" name="specialid:70490" value="HHBU" />
    <input type="hidden" name="clientid" value="971128" />
    <input type="hidden" name="formid" value="8190" />
    <input type="hidden" name="reallistid" value="1" />
    <input type="hidden" name="doubleopt" value="0" />
    <tr>
      <td><div align="center">
        <input type="submit" name="Submit" value="Submit" />
      </div></td>
    </tr>
    </table>
</div>
</form>
      <p>
<script type="text/javascript">
var icpForm8190 = document.getElementById('icpsignup8190');
if (document.location.protocol === "https:")
    icpForm8190.action = "https://app.icontact.com/icp/signup.php";
function verifyRequired8190() {
if (icpForm8190["fields_email"].value == "") {
    icpForm8190["fields_email"].focus();
    alert("The Email field is required.");
    return false;
return true;</script></p>
      <hr width="90%" />
      <h2>Find us on Facebook
        <iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/likebox.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FOrganicaN aturalFood&width=200&colorscheme=light&show_faces=false&border_color&stream=false&header=f alse&height=100" scrolling="No" frameborder="0" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:200px; height:100px;" allowtransparency="true"></iframe>
    </h2>
    <h2> </h2></td>
    <td width="663" class="right"><h1>Welcome to Organica!</h1>
    <p>"A Natural Organic Market", Organica provides fresh organic produce, whole foods, groceries, persihibles, frozen foods, natural body care, pet foods, cleaning products and more. <br />
      <br />
      Shop our vitamin department for a wide varitey of supplements, protein shakes, probiotics, herbs, and products from our top-of-the-line vitamin companies.<br />
      <br />
    Don't forget to visit our renowned Natural Gourmet Prepared Food Department, where all foods are prepared fresh daily. You will be able to find all your needs for breakfast, lunch, dinner or your next party! </p></td>
</tr>
<tr>
    <td colspan="2" class="footer">About Us | Links | Employment | Contact Us<br />
      All contents ©2011 Organica Natural Foods, Inc. | Site Design: Now Age New Media</td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

Win 7.
I see the entire page here in IE9, IE8 (Compatibility View), Firefox and Chrome.

No menu bar in IE8

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