No Overclock with PT880 and SATA

OK----well it happened to me too!!! No overclock with SATA RAID......
Board loaded WinXP like a dream----seems fast as heck----everthing as smooth as glass-----is VERY stable at stock speeds.
Then I tried to overclock......
201 FSB was all I could get-----RIDICULOUS!
Have fooled a little with voltages----no go
Will try Vlink settings tomorrow-----am tired and ticked off
Have been doing everything from Bios----will try the dynamic overclocking and core cell tomorrw as well.
Something is not right--------I emailed MSI and will call them as well on Monday.
Am also going to search the Abit forum and see if they have the same problem because if they do-----it's probably a chipset problem------if they don't------it's an MSI problem.
Maybe give VIA a call as well-----this board has so much potential for a $59 expense.
If it would just overclock.....
Guess you get what you pay for......
Wish me luck------John

OK----I hosed Windows for the second time last night playing with this board.
Beta Bios 1.42 DID NOT fix the Bios overclocking problem with SATA.
ANY overclock over 220 FSB (at least with my setup) is VERY dicey. I crashed in windows and no matter what I try----it will not boot. -----Clear CMOS, F8, Last Known Good Config, etc. nothing-----it just restarts.
No big deal----I just rebuild the array and reload Windows------and do Windows update----but it costs me a couple of hours each time. I won't load any real aps except benchmark applications on this machine till I'm satisfied Ive got stable settings.
Things I've learned:
I really like "Core Cell"----it's actually a pretty good little overclocking app. Be careful of the "Auto" setting----for me, it worked once----the 2d time I tried it was when I hosed Windows. It is supposed to start overclocking your board moving the FSB up 1 Mghtz at a time till it finally is unstable and crashes. Then it saves the last good setting which was stable. Then it will use that setting at Startup when the computer boots.
Worked great the first time------I upped my voltages and tried again-----the computer got to 227 FSB and froze----it never recovered.
I haven't been able to check yet if "Dynamic Overclocking" works----or has any value----will try that once I get windows up and running again.
Am starting to get a pretty good "feel" for this board.
Am thinking a stable overclock of around 220 FSB which is dissappointing for a 2.4c----but you know what, a 3.0c or a 2.8c might be perfect for this board. With the higher multiplier of a 3.0c (15)------a 220 FSB puts you to to 3.3 Mghtz, which is SUPER for a low cost setup----- and you can find 3.0c's for less than $200 now-----and the low price of this board makes a 3.0c very affordable. I would think the same applies to a Prescott 2.8 or 3.0----but I have no experience with that CPU.
Bottom line-----get yourself this board----an OEM or used 3.0c, cheap RAM that will overclock to DDR 450 with fairly decent timings (most mid-line PC3200 will do that just fine) a $12 Firewire Card and a couple of cheaper Samsung or Hitachi SATA drives to run in RAID 0 as well as a used ATI 9700Pro or 9800Pro off of eBay----and you got yourself a cheap "Barn Burner" A machine that will run with the big dogs----for about $200-300 less
Here are some additional thoughts so far....
1. Pretty darn good board for the price!
2. I'm not sure VIA's new AGP/PCI lock works----or works as expected.
3. Default voltages seem to be low for this board-----raising almost every voltage adds to stability greatly.
4. Although I have not benched it-----my SATA RAID (64K Stripe) seems tremendously fast. Small files copy so fast----that nothing even appears on the screen-----it happens so quickly----you think the computer hasn't performed the operation----but sure enough----the file has been copied.
5. Sound seems VERY good and has LOW CPU utilzation for an onboard solution.
Waiting to hear back from MSI and VIA----and will play with this board some more tonight.
John

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I've used a noname SATA pci card (non raid) with SIL3112 on my neo2 without problems with 1C bios.
Think you may try with a disk lower than 48bitLBA need (137GB barrier), eg a 120GB disk
Quote:
have the InnoVision EIO DM-8301 and had alot of problems using it with WD 160MB SATA drive.
I am using Intel 865 based MB with 2 original SATA channels. The original SATA channels are bootable.
I could not used the EIO card with 160G HDD. The whole setup is working only after I connected oine of my 120G Segate SATA HDD to the EIO Sata card.
I think this card do not properly support HDD above 120G.
Please respond to: [email protected]
http://www.devhardware.com/forums/storage-devices-80/sata-as-boot-20080-2.html
Btw: you have xp sp2 ?
48bitLBA is not enabled in the first version.
http://www.48bitlba.com/winxp.htm
Edit:
Here's another with complete different setup and same problems
http://forum.tweakxp.com/forum/Topic212148-4-1.aspx
I doubt it has anything to do with your motherboard and/or bios.
Btw: I looked at innovision and their drivers in download area are very old.
Get the latest SIL3112 drivers for XP here:
http://www.siliconimage.com/support/supportsearchresults.aspx?pid=63&cid=3&ctid=2&osid=4&
And remember 3112 is sata150 only , so it's not sure it will work with your drive at all .
Anyway it should be set to fixed sata1.5G with jumper - not certain the controller can autonegotiate
without trouble. You cannot have command queing enabled either , disk support only NCQ and controller TCQ
so having command queing set ON will cause major conflicts in data transfers.

Poor Overclock With E4300 And P965 Platinum

I have recently built a Core 2 Duo system based around the P965 Platinum motherboard which I bought based on the excellent reviews it appears to have received.
My system is as follows:
Core 2 Duo E4300 with standard cooler
MSI P965 Platinum
ATI X1900GT
1GB Kingston DDR2 667 Valueram
2xWD 160GB Hard Disks in RAID 0
Antec Sonata II case with Smartpower 450W PSU.
I initially tried overclocking to 266FSB which worked flawlessly. All I did was slow the memory slightly so it wasnt overclocked. It worked beautifully, including Speedstep functionality and in SiSoft Sandra beat the E6600 comfortably which runs at a similar speed.
As soon as I try to go above this speed the system wont boot and all the fans run at their maximum. It doesnt even POST.
I have tried disabling speedstep etc, and increased voltages slightly. I also slowed the memory further so it is running at 1:1 ratio (532MHz at 266FSB), but I still cannot get past 266FSB.
Any suggestions?
I also note that the board does the strange start-stop thing from cold, and if it has been left off for a long time the screen is scrambled when I start it. Any suggestions on these?
Cheers,
James

Quote from: EagleDM on 07-February-07, 07:12:21
You're not alone..
My fighting with this motherboard began the first moment I put my brand new E4300.
This is the absoluto WORST motherboard in the Galaxy for the E4300, and the reasons, I should explain shortly (I hope someone at MSI is reading this and DO SOMETHING about it)
The short version:
There are 3 straps for configuring the speed of each processor on the Intel family.
the 800 strap, the 1066 strap and the 1333 strap, these are the straps working on the 4000 and 6000 family of core2
When you're in the 1066 strap, the motherboard configures the PCI lock correctly and you can safely clock the board from 266 to even 370 or 450 in some cases with the latest BIOS and good MCP voltage... but.
When you're in the 800 strap like me (all E4300 are in the 800 strap) the motherboard incorrectly identify the information and it simply DOES NOT LOCK the PCI bus speed correctly...
Conclusion: when you excede 266 Mhz speed you already have the PCI clocked so far away from the standard speed, that really is a divine grace that the motherboard boots.. and if it does.. you will have a corrupted HD or you may even lost some PCI card to this.. so... it is really DANGEROUS to set any speed higher than 240-250 for this strap on this motherboard.
Sure, there are alternatives you may ask... yes, all gigabyte motherboards and the P5B series correcly identify the 800 strap (200fsb) and Lock the PCI so you can overclock to hell with that one... not on this motherboard.
There IS an alternative... the alternative is to PIN MOD the processor (remember the Conductive Pen?) to FORCE the motherboard into believeing that you have in effect, a 266 (1066Mhz) processor and then, configuring the strap accordingly..
well... no.
It works on the 99% of the motherboards I tried (yes, I did that mod succesfully and unlocked the 1066 strap, booting with 266 bus on a P5B, a 680i SLI and even a 570 SLI motherboard, with a MINIM clock of 3.2Ghz, what do you think?)
BUT
and is a very great BUT, NOT with this motherboard.
For some brilliant idea of the MSI engineers, the motherboard start up at 266Mhz and then it clearly tells you that this is in fact a 200Mhz processor, then, a BIOS halt ocurred and you have a corrupted CMOS setup, the only way to stop from losing the motherboard is to install another processor and re-flash it...
so even forcing a 1066Mhz strap is a NO GO with this motherboard that REFUSES to take information from the SAME PINOUT the rest of the motherboard makers follow to regulation and in fact WORKS and reads the information from the clock the processor gives, so.. we are stuck with a NO GO situation.
The latest bios i tried is the 3.6 bios (BETA) and this problem persist.
So, with the P965 the long story became short at the end, we are stuck in the WORST of the Galaxy motherboard for E4300 overclocking till MSI at least give us the freedom to choose the strap or just use the one that is detected. Until then... that's it.
I hope this message reaches MSI, I work for a hardware page that do reviews and you can imagine what I should say about this motherboard....
Daniel / MaximoPC
www.maximopc.org
Thanks, that does make sense based on what I am seeing.
Is there a way of confirming the PCI bus speed is increasing with clock speed?
This seems like it should be simple for MSI to sort?

Poor overclock with E4300 and MSI P6N SLI-Fi - Strap Issue?

A friend of mine and me bought new rigs last friday. Each of us is using a E4300 with Tuniq Tower, a Leadtek 8800 GTS and a 1 GB DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 from G.E.I.L running on a P6N SLI-FI.
Neither of us can clock higher than 250 x 9 = 2,250 MHz with VCore +0,0125. I can run Orthos stable at 2,400 MHz, but will fail 3DMark or Gaming Timedemos. My machine won´t even post above 2,500 MHz. Temperatures are fine and not the problem.
Tried everything, upping VCore up to 1,4V, maxing out the northbridge voltage, clocking down the RAM to 667 or 533 and relaxing the timings. C1E, DOT, EIST etc. is disabled of course. The only thing which helped to get further into windows was fiddling with the northbridge voltage but nonetheless nothing won´t run stable above 2,250 MHz.
The problem looks very similar like the one posted in this thread: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=105321.120
Unfortunately, Systool doesn´t read out anything, seems like NForce 650i isn´t supported yet. I have tried at 1070 in Bios, which should be 267 MHz - nothing different. Also 1080, 1090, 1100... 1120. 1110 is the last setting, with which the machine would even post (with voltages nearly maxxed), at 1120 I have to do a BIOS reset.
Did anyone have similar experiences? Found workarounds?

Hey thanks for your advice, but I am actually not THAT stupid... :D
I took a step by step approach over 2 days, isolating things. It would run stable at 2,250 MHz with only a notch or two up the VCore. 2,400 MHz also ran Orthos stable (Blend) for some hours but crashed on instant in HL2 or 3DMark. Got at least 3DMark stable (but not HL2) by increasing the NB voltage. Then I started tweaking first VCore only, then NB only, combinations (there are quite a few to try out...). I studied electrical engineering and am repairing computers since I was 12 years old (actually build my first Commodore C64 out of 3 non working ones) so I think I know how to sort out a problem methodically and not by guessing.
The issues I experienced also got me thinking. Why is something Orthos, Prime, etc. stable as a rock but won´t run anything with 3D-graphics? What has that to do with OC the CPU? RAM was sorted out (relaxed timings, 533 MHz with 800 MHz RAM), but looking at some chipset diagramms in tests, it is the northbridge, which connects the PCI-E and therefore the GPU to the CPU. So it was only logical for me to assume that it must be the NB or the BIOS implementation causing the problem. Of course i tested with all different NB voltage options, combinations with VCore etc. Nothing worked, curiously even turning off some powersaving features but changing nothing else prevented the system from posting at settings it had booted to windows before...
Even if I am pleased with my results now (3,015 GHz now at stock voltages rock solid throughout the day) I find the behaviour of the board and the BIOS very strange in the 240+ FSB range with the E4300...
PS: I tested it, it even works flawlessly with maxxed NB voltage at the current 3,015 GHz, which falsifies your too high voltage at a certain power requirement theory, at least for my board. Don´t missunderstand me, I am not posting this just to be right but I think this should be quite interesting and perhaps give some more insight into the problems with this board...
I am going to bed now, having an exam tomorrow.
Greetings from northern germany,
Bolle

New to overclocking with intel and msi

really need help knowing what to disable and leave enabled ,can some one who knows alot tell me
specs
z77a g45
i7 3770k
psu-antec 900w high current gamer
gpu-(2)evga 660 ti sc in sli not clocked
ram- 8gigs 1333mhz
HDD-2 1tb spinners

Here is a pretty good thread to have a read through;
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=169491.0

Confused about SATA RAID and SATA DVD

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If I have a pair of drives in a RAID array, can I add further hard drives that will not be in a RAID array? I won't trust RAID for all my data and I don't want to use mirroring.
I'm confused and I can't seem to find any definitive answers on this.
Thanks
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Thanks Maesus. Will the drive from an AHCI machine only work in another machine set up with AHCI?
Teresa, yes but not always, this AHCI is driver bound. And because this AHCI is driver bound, it makes it hard to change from IDE to AHCI for a IDE driver installed OS, as the OS doesn't have AHCI driver installed. So when you change to AHCI setting in the BIOS, the OS refuse to load further. AHCI is driver bound, and it is also controller/chipset bound. If you installed an OS with AHCI settings enabled in an AMD system, you may not run that in an AHCI Intel system. Vice versa.
Quote from: Teresa on 20-May-07, 19:51:36
I ask this because there's a thread here that gives instructions on how to turn on AHCI after Win XP has been installed. That tends to suggest that AHCI makes a difference to an operating system install.
This is only because the OS installer doesn't have AHCI driver built-in. If you slip-streamed your OS installer with AHCI drivers, your OS installation will go smoothly.
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Or is it a case that the disk's data can still be read on another machine without AHCI but it can't be used to run Win XP? I just need to know that I can pull my data hard disk out of my system and access it on another older machine that doesn't have ACHI.
Yes, the disk's data still can be read anywhere else. Just that it cannot be used to boot up to WinXP, if that WinXP doesn't have AHCI driver installed.
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Hopefully one day soon I'll reach a critical threshold of knowledge and actually start ordering the parts for my build.
Teresa
Let's make it simple. Treat IDE, AHCI and RAID-0 as different HDD drivers. WinXP has IDE driver built-in. Vista should have all drivers built-in. IDE and AHCI data structure is the same. However, RAID-0 data structure stored in the HDD is different and is controller-bound.
For AHCI mode installed HDD, you can read in IDE mode without single issue.
For IDE mode installed HDD, you can also read in AHCI mode without issue, provided AHCI drivers are installed upfront.
For RAID-0 installed HDD, you cannot read in IDE or AHCI mode, and you may not be able to read in other different controller/chipset systems even though you set them as RAID-0 exactly.

Recent Conversation with MSI and Neo4 overclocking "thing"

I had a recent email transaction with MSI if anyone is interested. I tried my best to represent the group, and I know we all experience the problem a little bit different which is why it has been hard to explain and fix. I tried to give them the best info to duplicate the issue in the lab. It seems clear at this point that MSI still isn't duplicating the issue. They are using 166 Mem Clock Index, and the HT freq of 3x and still not understanding the issue, hopefully I have gave them a guide to duplicate what we have been trying to say. Yes I have explained this to MSI before but I really feel I am getting somewhere with my last 2 emails. Once we get them to duplicate the results then I think we will all have our solution shortly. Before anyone says anything negative, at least they aren't saying, oh that's an overclocking problem we don't deal with that. Also remember how long it has taken to get many people to see the issue, this isn't easy to understand so just stay cool, don't say negative sh-t if you reply and we'll see how this pans out. It was actully kind of hard since I am sitting in a hotel room 500 miles away from the motherboard but I was able to use modbin6 to view the BIOS and since I have done this about 7 zillion times I remember the settings LMAO. They have their Venice to 2750, not bad...
Hello MSI Engineer,
The information you requested. The data you sent shows a Venice running at 166 Memclock index value at HT at 3x, the goal is to run at 200 Memclock Index and HT at 4x. In order to duplicate this issue in the lab here is my recommendation. It MUST be tried with a CBBID Winchester RevD CPU and a Venice Rev E CPU and the Gskill memory you have in dual channel. The issue happens everytime with a CBBID Winchester and less often with Venice.
Starting with the Venice 3500+, Set the following in BIOS
[Memclock Index] 200
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] 3
[Min RAS active] 11
[RAS to CAS delay] 6
[Row Precharge] 6
[User config mode] manual
[bottom of 32 bit] (default)
[1T/2T] 1T
[Read Preamble] 6ns (default)
[Async Latency] 6ns (default)
[S/W mem hole] Disable (default)
[H/W mem hole] Disable (default)
[MTRR mapping] Continuous (default)
[High Performance] manual
[Agreessive timing] Disable
[Dynamic Overclocking] Disable
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 200
[HT Frequncy] 4
[HT Width] 16 up 16 down
[CPU Spread] Disable
[SATA Spread] Disable
[PCI Spread] Disable
[PCIe Clock] 101
[SSE/SSE2] Enable
[CnQ] Disable
[CPU Ratio] 11x
[Adjust CPU VID] 1.45
[Extra CPU Voltage] your choice for stability
[Mem Volt] your choice for stability
[NF4 Volt] your choice for stability
Now boot into Windows. Using Clockgen, increase HTT to 250. This should be stable based on your screen shot and your RAM modules. Now having a CPU 2750Mhz, RAM at 250Mhz, and a HT of 4x250(1000). Test for stablity with Prime95 or other Stress Testing tool. Now we can say motherboard is stable at 2750Mhz CPU, 250Mhz RAM, and HT 4x250(1000). Now return to the BIOS at set the following
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 250
This reults in a no POST condition for me and others. Now install the CBBID, except you will have to set a lower CPU max speed based on CBBID overclocking potential. In the BIOS, Return [Adjust CPU FSB frequency] to 200, Perhaps [CPU ratio] of 10x or 9x but a [Memory Clock Index] 200Mhz. Boot to Windows and use Clockgen to raise HTT to 250 again. Once you find a [CPU Ratio] that will have a STABLE overclock with a 250HTT. Return to the BIOS and set [Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] to 250. Try and POST. Try this experiment with the 3.1, 3.3, and 3.4 BIOS's. For the CBBID and the 3.1 BIOS you should be able to change the [HT Freq] to 3x, 2x or 1x and get a POST with [FSB Freq] 250, [Memclock Index] 200, and a known stable [CPU Ratio] you found in Windows. The 3.3, and 3.4 BIOS have made this work around not possible. Why does [HT Freq] 4x work in windows but not at POST time?
As a side note. The 1.3 BIOS for the 7125 works with the Venice, and the 1.4 and 1.5 do NOT. So somewhere between the 1.3 and 1.4 MSI created the issue on the Venice. Perhaps that is where you can find the answer and solution to the problem.
Here are some articles that describe the issue on a ECS and Chaintech board that were remidied by a BIOS update. So the problem is not uncommon and should be able to be fixed.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/chaintech-nforce4_6.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/ecs-kn1-extreme_9.html
Here is some other users data of NF4 SLI and Ultra MSI Neo4's if you want to see some other BIOS settings.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=81364.0
Here is a screen shot of my Neo4 Plat SLI (MS-7100) 3.1 BIOS and CBBID Winchester(The Venice will NOT POST at all above [Adj CPU Freq] ~219-229 under any situation but is stable in Windows at HTT 250 with Clockgen). The system is stable and POST's when [HT Freq] is 3x, it will NOT at [HT freq] 4x which is stable in windows but won't POST.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/cbbidMSI2501.jpg
Here is another screenshot of the Asus A8N Plat SLI with all peripherals the same. Only changed the motherboard. This is POSTing at [HT Freq] 4x. This is just as a reference that the components do indeed POST with [Adjust FSB freq] 250, [Memclock Index] 200, and [HT Freq] 4x. This board will POST both my 3200+ Venice and Winchester CBBID at the settings described above.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/cbbid250asus1.jpg
The following are my BIOS settings that will create a non-POST condition, but the board is stable at these settings when ADJUSTED FROM WINDOWS.
[ADVANCED BIOS]
[Gate A20] Enable
[APIC] Enable
[MPS Table] 1.4
[Boot OS2] No
[ADVANCED CHIPSET]
[System BIOS Cacheable] Disabled
for newer BIOS
[SLI Brodcast apeture] Whatever default is.
[INTEGRATE PERIPHERALS]
[Onboard IDE 0 and 1] Enabled all channels in Auto
[IDE DMA] Enabled
[SATA 1,2,3,4] Enabled
[IDE PREFETCH] Enabled
[NVDA RAID] Enabled
[all IDE raid channels] Disabled
[all SATA raid channels] Enabled
[On Chip USB] 1.1-2.0
[USB KB/Storage] Disabled
[NVDA LAN] Enabled
[NVDA ROM] Disabled
[Onboard VIA 1394] Enabled
[Marvell Gigabit] Disabled
[Onboard Creative] Enabled
[SiI3132] Disabled
[FDC] Enable
[Serial Ports] Disabled
[Parallel Port] Disabled
[POWER MANAGMENT] all defaults
[PNP/PCI]
[Init display] PCIe
[Resources] Auto
[PCI Express Max Payload] 4096
[CELL MENU]
[Timing mode] manual
[Memclock index value(MHz)] 200
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] 3
[Min RAS active] 8
[RAS to CAS delay] 4
[Row Precharge] 4
[Row cycle time] Auto
[Row refresh] Auto
[Row to Row delay] Auto
[Write Recovery] Auto
[Write to Read] Auto changing this to known working value will lock system sometimes
[Read to Write] Auto changing this to known working value will lock system sometimes
[Refresh] Auto
[User config mode] manual
[bottom of 32 bit] whatever it defaults to
[1T/2T] 1T
[Read Preamble] 6ns
[Async Latency] 6ns Attempts to change this to 8ns will lock system
[S/W mem hole] Disable
[H/W mem hole] Disable
[MTRR mapping] Continuous
[High Performance] manual
[Agreessive timing] Disable
[Dynamic Overclocking] Disable
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 250
[HT Frequncy] 4 (For 1000Mhz)
[HT Width] 16 up 16 down
[CPU Spread] Disable
[SATA Spread] Disable
[PCI Spread] Disable
[PCIe Clock] 101
[SSE/SSE2] Enable
[CnQ] Disable
[CPU Ratio] 10x
[Adjust CPU VID] 1.45
[Extra CPU Voltage] +9.9%
[Mem Volt] 2.7v
[NF4 Volt] 1.65v
BIOS Tested 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4. I have not tested 3.51 but forum users are still not getting positive results
-------------- Original message --------------
Dear Aicjofs
This is MSI technical support engineer from Taiwan.
We receive some message from MSI LA office & Anandtech.com.
We are sorry for inconvinence experience when you try to Overclock MS-7100.
We hope to contact with you directly and help you to solve it.
Depends on related message from others, we know that you have several problem for MS-7100 overclocking.
According to your info at MSI Forum, Here is your system configuration:
Neo4 Plat SLI(MS-7100) 3.1 BIOS
3200+ Venice (8x313) @ 2500Mhz
Patriot PC4000 (200:133) 2.5-3-3-7
HT x3
Aopen 6800GT @ Ultra speed
AthenaPower 500W 3.3v - 26a 5v - 47a 12v - 28a
Could you give us more info about what changed item inside your BIOS?
[Memclock index value(MHz)]
[CAS# latency (Tcl)]
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency]
[HT Frequncy]
[Adjust CPU VID]
[Extra CPU Voltage]¡Kor others
We try to Overclock MS-7100 with BIOS v3.2 and 3500+ (Venice core).
CPU ADA3500DAA4BW ABBWE made in Malaysia
Memory G-skill PC4400 512MB*2 (Dual Channel)
We only change some item inside BIOS as: (Based on Optimized defaults)
[Memclock index value (MHz)] à166
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] à 3
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] à250
[HT Frequncy] à3x
[Adjust CPU VID] à 1.450V
[Extra CPU Voltage] àOver VID 6.6%
We will try to find similar CPU as yours to test it.
If possible, please tell us the CPU OPN number like we listed. (ADA3500DAA4BW)
We also help to know any other info that you can provide.
If possible, please help to tell us more setting and system info.
Thanks!
Waiting for your responding.
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Quote from: Indigian on 15-June-05, 19:41:43
Good news and good work guy's
On a side note to chakkasol....
are you using coolbits 1 or 2?
I heard that coolbits2 is the one for our later cards
Good question - coolbits 2. I happened to take a chance from this website and downloaded this file...ran it up against my antivirus and antispyware software and it looked clean. I simply ran the program and viola, coolbits functionality automatically added to the winxp registry. I cleaned out the msi DOT drivers first before I loaded this program. Even though I have tweaked on occasion the winxp registry to speed things up and make winxp shut down quicker, this was too complicated for me to do on my own.
The highest overclock with the MSIs DOT is 11% at 555/1100. My MSI card is actually very stable at 580/1160 for a 16% overclock. I have gotten it to 600/1200 but I usually run the coolbits stability program a few times and it has never failed at 580/1160. I am sure if I had a better cooling system than the stock fan it would probably go to 600/1200 or higher. At a 3DMark05 of 4133 (and much higher if I could get it stable at 600/1200, I would be bumping up against the stock speeds of the 6800s vid cards.
EDIT: Of course, if you download this coolbits 2 program you do so at your own risk...I take no responsibility for the download.
The coolbits download:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815
The MSI 6600gt card that I purchased:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321916
btw, I have ordered more stuff from ZZF than newegg...they seem cheaper (but dont always have the stock of newegg) and the stuff gets here 1 day sooner usually (west coast to east coast USA).

Can i use apple tv with my dish sat equipment and is it hard to connect

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Sorry if this has been already asked; did a search.
Trying to configure 2-Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 750 GB drives in a RAID-1.
I also have a SATA DVD-RW plugged in as well.
I enabled RAID mode = RAID in BIOS, pressed CTRL-I when booting to enter Intel's RAID configure screen, when there set the RAID 1 volume, exited.
Booted into Windows XP, went to load the RAID driver and..... no DVD-RW to read the disk. ?
Back in the BIOS, sure enough, all the SATA devices had disappeared except for SATA 7.
Is this a restriction of Intel RAID - that you have any RAID, all the SATA ports are RAID only?
I couldn't find any settings to choose which SATA ports are RAID and which are not.
Thanks,

Quote from: NovJoe on 11-February-10, 22:03:57
Try to move your DVD drive to another SATA port.
I did end up moving the DVD-RW to SATA7 and yes it shows up always.
But that is a disappointment. Apparently, with these Intel SATA controllers, RAID is an all or nothing proposition - turn on RAID and that will be the only use for SATA1-SATA6. At least that's my theory; Intel doesn't spell this out. This is a bummer for me, as I had hoped to use SATA1 and SATA2 for a RAID-1 and hang other devices off SATA3-7.
I could use the Jmicron RAID, as that uses just two ports, but that occupies SATA7 and SATA8, and (apparently) SATA8 is the eSATA connector on the rear panel - not very useful for a RAID.

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I'll get right to the point.
I have an PCI SATA Controller Card in my system (using a K7N2 Delta-L motherboard, BIOS v5.7 with an Athlon XP 2800+ and Corsair ValueSelect 512MB DDR400 RAM on a single stick). My system works fine in it's original configuration of drives (CD-RW drive only drive on IDE bus, and SATA drive only hard drive). However, upon installing my IDE hard drive from my old computer, the system will no longer boot right. I am connecting the other IDE HD as Slave on the CD-RW's bus, as I'm reserving the second bus for bigger and better things such as a DVD burner, and speed isn't too important for this hard drive as it's just my MP3/data I don't need in a hurry drive.
In the current configuration, all three drives are detected properly (CD-RW and HD detected on the IDE detection screen, and the SATA drive detected on the SATA card's detection screen). However, after the SATA detection screen, the system just stops. The cursor is still blinking, but nothing comes up.
Both hard drives are Western Digitals (IDE is a ATA100 Western Digital 60GB at 5400 RPM, and the SATA is a Western Digital 36.7GB at 10,000 RPM), and the CD-RW is a HP CD-Writer 9100. I have Windows XP installed on both hard drives (first partition of the IDE, which is divided into two), but considering the system doesn't even attempt to boot I don't think that's an issue. I've gone through and tried enabling and disabling "Boot Other Device", but still no love. My boot order is set to Floppy, CD-ROM, and SCSI, which works fine when the SATA drive is in there.
Any idea what's up? I can provide more information upon request, as I'm sure there's something I forgot to mention that's important.
Thanks.

Take a look at this link, https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=71384, I think you both have the same problem. It seems that a sata drive doesn't like having an ide drive in the system that has an active partition.
Do like Wonkanoby suggest, reformat the ide hard drive and make sure that it's not set to be the active partition in the system. Boot with a 98 boot floppy if you have to so you can format the ide drive to fat32, once you can boot up using the sata drive you can use xp disk manager to convert the ide drive to ntfs.

Any fast HD for MBP (with 64MB cache and SATA 6gbps)?

Looking for a fast (non SSD) hard drive. I have a Macbook Pro model 5,2. I'm trying to find a hard drive with preferably 750GB-1TB, 64MB cache and SATA 6gbps. Of course it needs to be 2.5" to fit inside the MBP. I can't seem to find one that will work for the MBP on the internet. So I turn to you guys. Wondering if anyone knows of one.
Or maybe you can suggest a comparably fast hard drive?

Try OWC for compatible hard drives. All notebook sized drives will work in the MBP if they are 9.5 mm high. Depending upon your model it may accommodate thicker drives up to 12.5 mm.
You might try out the Seagate Momentum XT series.

HT5446 if i order a new imac with 1tb flash is that pcie based to where i could add a 3.5 ssd and does it still have the bracket and sata cable to add one in it

if i order a new imac with 1tb flash is that pcie based to where i could add a 3.5 ssd and does it still have the bracket and sata cable to add one in it

Be advices that the newest iMac's are basically SEALED Units and taking it apart in any way, other than removing the Memory slot cover to add more RAM (That is on the 27" model. The 21.5" is completely sealed), will void the warranty on it.
Not only that but the screen is Glued to the aluminum casing and if you do pry it off with damaging it you'll need new adhesive strips to remount it.
Not worth the efford or the cost when you can buy mat any other brand computer for less money and do all the upgrading you would ever want without ever voiding the warranty or breaking something in the process.

PT880 and prescott issues

So I recently purchased a new system from NewEgg, and lucky me I've been stricken with the PT880 and prescott problems. My system specs are below:
MSI PT880-LSR
P4 2.8gHz Prescott 800mHz FSB
4 x 256MB Kinston Value RAM
ATI Radeon 9600xt
Maxtor 200GB SATA 7200RPM
LiteOn DVD-/+RW 8x
LiteOn DVD-ROM 16x
Sony floppy
I've tried doing all the force flashes of the BIOS, but it doesn't seem to work. I don't have my hands on a Northwood, and it could be a very difficult process to get one (I'd like to not have to buy one).
I lock up right after the SATA RAID controller boot dialog.
If anyone has any ideas that might be able to help me, please share. I'm desperate.

newegg has celeron 2.4 for 68 dollars
tee hee, get another PT880 for cheap too, and build a second system... (or sell it or something)
but anyway, just throwing that out there...
KA DRUMA:
i kind of work in one of these 'hole-in-the-wall' places, its not really holeinthewall, but it is kind of small, and i know we would probably charge ~60 bucks to flash a bios like that... a normal bios, with a compatible chip, probably 40 bucks...
celeron 2.4 68 would probably overclock like a beast...

Pt880 neo sata raid o corruption

i have a pt880 neo with a celeron d cpu 2 raptors in raid 0 using onboard raid .
runs great till i overclock , at 150 fsb raid array corrupts , using bios 1.5 .
any ideas ? maybe promise pci raid card or another mother board?.
what other motherboard chipset with on board raid will overclock.
i chose the celeron d as it is suppose to be a good overclocker 3.6 gig ?.
and i want to run the raptors in raid 0 for speed.
the pci card raid will be slower than onboard?.
thanks

I am using a celeron d based on the prescott , power supply is raidmax 420 watt.
i am certain that tha via sata raid controler can not handle the overclock it is not in the pci bridge and i don;t think it is or can be locked , used sata drives no raid same corruption at 150 fsb . when using pata drives no problems overclocks to 190 fsb today .
i want to use the raptors in raid 0 , so what m/b with onboard raid sata will work?
i don't want to change m/b only to have new one have same problem , also don't want pci raid runnig at 33mhz , whats the point , would like onboard raid that will allow overclock>?
thanks for everyone help
now help with selection of new motherboard.

No Overclock with PT880 and SATA

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