No Pantone Swatches

When I drop down the "window" bar for the swatch library, I do not have the option of Pantone swatches. Does someone know how to get this.

You've got lots of company, that has been a pretty frequent question since CS3 came out. So I don't think you're a moron at all ;-). I still occasionally expect to see the Pantone libraries at the top level and have to remind myself.
Yours
Vern

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Can not find pantone+ swatches in InDesign CS6, such as 2239c?

How do I find the pantone+ swatches in InDesign CS6, such as 2239c? It is not visible in the swatches panel? Can anyone else see this swatch in Indesign Cs6 or Illustrator Cs6?

From the Swatches panel Flyout menu, choose New swatch.
In the new swatch definition dialog, under Type choose Spot, and under Mode choose Pantone + Solid Coated.
There are some legacy colors that are not included inthe Pantone + series. You can add these to both ID and Illustrator by following the directions in Pantone Plus color libraries (Thanks, Vikrant ).
2239 isn't in my old swatchbooks as a spot color or the legacy books for the program, either. Are you sure that's a vaild number? Perhaps youpi really mean 223-9, a light blue-gray process color? If that's the case, you'd need to specify Process instead of Spot, and choose the appropriate book fromthe mode dropdown. The 223 series seems not be included in the + books, but it is inthe legacy books if you add them according to the instuctions in the link above.

Pantone swatch palette not persistent

Hello all,
I'm posting this in the hopes that someone else searching for the problem might find my post to lead them to the solution.
I recently installed Illus CS4 on my new mac (yay!)
I'm slowly working through all the new features - and new glitches.
One of those glitches was that my Pantone palette kept disappearing every time I quit Illus. And Yes... I had checked the little button that said "persistent".
Finally after searching the forums and new help center (to no avail), I started experimenting on my own.
I wish I could give you specific steps, but to be honest, I was trying several things at once and I just happened to notice that it 'magically' re-appeared.
1. quit illus if you have it open now. Leave your pantone swatch pallet the way you like it, and make sure the persistent is clicked.
2. reopen illus with no documents open. (the palette won't open).
3. open a NEW and DIFFERENT pantone swatch palette. Click persistent again.
4. quit illus.
5. reopen illus yet again. Close the 'other' pallete - Your original palette should be open now.
In a nutshell, I had to use one palette to force the other one to stay persistent. Perhaps someone can have better luck than me in describing the exact steps here.
For what it's worth, I got this to work on our second machine here as well.
I'm not sure if this matters or not, but...
The palette that I was having problems with was the Pantone Solid Coated.
I opened the Pantone Matte pallet (i think).
Hope this vague description helps someone else.
keywords: Pantone Palette swatches swatch persistent disappearing

Hi Wade,
I appreciate your response but with respect, none of those issues make any sense to me.
Yes, I agree, it may not be happening on your system. I wasn't saying this glitch is across the board. My co-worker in Idaho doesn't have the problem either.
But, I have two Mac Pro's here at the office with the same problem.
It can't be a corrupt pref's since I am using the same prefs when the problem happened, and when the problem was fixed.
It can't be a corrupt font. Otherwise my discovered fix would still not work. ie: I didn't uninstall any fonts nor did I mess with any fonts to fix the problem.
It can't be a plug-in. For the same reason. I did not mess with any plugins when I fixed the problem.
It can't be a haxie, same reason.
It can't be a third party software, same reason.
If you can explain why opening up a second pantone swatch palette fixed the problem then I'm all ears :)
>>>
Totally unrelated...
I signed on today and did a search to see if anyone responded to my post. I searched for the word "persistent"... my post here did not show up.
This is where I searched: http://www.adobe.com/support/illustrator/
Did I search in the wrong place?

Oversaturated prints not matching Pantone swatch

Head is melting with this HP lazerjet 2550L. Nothing prints as it should or matches Pantone swatches. All my prints are way too intense in colour but the odd thing is that my monitor matches exactly the pantones in the swatch booklet (which is new, not faded). Strangely enough, i have had some test prints done from a repro place and they the colour is the same as my printer! Can't figure out whats goin' on. ANY advice would be great, before i chuck it out the window. Thanks in advance.

Just because the monitor colours are close doesn't mean it is calibrated. I often find it is due to more good luck than proper CMS.
But more importantly when was the printer last calibrated? Does it use an internal visual cal or have you used a densitometer/spectro? And is the printer Pantone certified? A lot of colour LBP's struggle to get anywhere near the output of those ink-based swatches.
Regards,
Paul

Disappearing Pantone swatches when using only percentages of the swatch

Hi I've come across something what might be a bug in Illustrator CS6..
Here's the thing.. I've made a design in Ai CS6 (with colorspace) and have used several Pantone swatches.
From a few Pantone colors I have used only a percentage of the color, for example the design consists of: 75% of Pantone 485 C, 32% of Pantone 1345 C and 100% of Pantone 154 C.
In the process of the design I have used several other Pantone colors which are not used in the final design, but they are still in the Swatch tab/list.
So when you click on the triangle (upper right corner) > "Select All Unused..", the Pantone colors that are only used as percentages (Pantone 485 C & Pantone 1345 C in the example) are being selected as "Unused" ?!
I have been using Ai CS4 before this version and in that version this wasn't a problem.
I could you percentages of Pantone colors without the swatch being selected as "Unused".
I really don't want to manual delete every unused swatch by dragging it into the trash bin.
It would be such a time wasting handling.
This is really inconvenient as I am working for a print and design company and need to save the Pantone colors that are used in the design, even if they are only a percentage of the Pantone swatch.
Could someone please explain to me why or what the reason is that this is happening..
Did I miss something?
Thanks!

Hello! For everyone that even after doing all of the suggestions we could find online, I finally figured it out
If you have FontExplorer Pro installed, then the plugins are the ones at fault. They released an update (that I still haven't been able to install since it gives me an error when doing so) but this are the listed bugs that were fixed:
Plugin Version for Illustrator CS 5, 5.1 and CS6
Color swatches are now correctly displayed and no longer produce an empty window.
Fixed a problem which prevented linked files from being shown or placed in an Illustrator document.
Resolved an issue which sporadically caused Illustrator to crash during font activation Font activation did not occur when document names contained an umlaut character (Ä Ö Ü)
Hope this sheds some light on this frustrating issue! I tweeted Linotype (@Linotype_com) so if anyone wants to follow them or myself @iKitty I'll be RT their answer or update when I am successful updating them.
So in the meantime, just disable the plugins and everything should be ok.

Help with determining PANTONE swatches accurately

I've recently designed a logo for an event. It's a 3-color design done entirely using process colors. The client would like the PANTONE equivalent of each color, however, and I'm having a lot of trouble figuring this all out (I'm a bit of a prepress newbie).
First of all, I have a lot of questions about the LAB view vs. CMYK view for spot colors in Illustrator:
1) The difference between the two is HUGE. In CMYK view, there is less subtlty, but the colors are vibrant and versatile. In LAB view, I can access certain colors I can't otherwise get, but most of the palette is desaturated and muddy. Is it supposed to be this way?
2) Supposedly, the LAB view for spot colors is relatively new in Illustrator. Considering how far off-base the CMYK versions of each spot swatch is, how was anyone getting work done before this feature was added? I don't understand how I could have even hoped to do spot color work using the CMYK swatches in older versions. They're entirely different colors in many cases. I must be missing something.
3) Is it accurate to say that, monitor calibration notwithstanding, and all other things being equal, the LAB view of a given spot color is more "accurate" than the CMYK version? If this is the case, the PANTONE uncoated library of solids is incredibly dull and muddy, because that's how it looks in LAB mode. I've been browsing a physical PANTONE book as well, and the colors don't appear to be nearly as bad in real life. My monitor may not be perfect, but I can't believe it's so poorly calibrated that the colors could look THIS different.
4) When viewing my work in LAB view, one of my colors translates perfectly from CMYK, while another doesn't even come close when attempting to match it with a spot color. In CMYK view, it's reversed-- the first color looks terrible, while the second actually comes pretty close. Which version can I trust? They're total opposites, making the final selection of a single swatch impossible. I'm not sure what to give my client-- if they're using an older version of Illustrator (which is likely), they'll have to see this in CMYK mode, and it will look terrible. Even a PDF I exported doesn't look right in Acrobat. How should I be approaching this?
As you can see, the seemingly simple task of selecting PANTONE swatches for 3 CMYK colors has turned into a bit of a mess. Any help with these confusions of mine would be hugely appreciated.
Thanks!

Aleister,
my simple advice concerning Spots, is this:
Buy a swatch book for Pantone Spot Coated and a swatch
book for CMYK for your Process Coated, as recommended
by your printing company (here ISO Coated, maybe SWOP
elsewhere).
Then compare visually the chosen Spot and a matching
process color.
If there is no good match, then you can print only
by Spot.
If you've found matching pairs, then you can print
letterheads by Spots and 4-color brochures by CMYK.
Personally, I'm using as equivalents for Spots only
two-color process colors, if e.g. a logo has to be
designed. This leads to minimal registration errors.
Another ugly truth is, that even an accurately calibrated
proof printing system by inkjet cannot reproduce plenty
Spots sufficiently accurate.
Meanwhile you may try to investigate all this by a true
Lab doc for common Spots:
http://www.fho-emden.de/~hoffmann/swatch16032005.pdf
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

Adobe Libraries - Pantone Swatches

I was wondering if you can add Pantone swatches to the Adobe Libraries? Right now it seems I can only add Hex and CMYK.
I am running the latest Illustrator version (18.1) on a Mac (10.9.5).

Hi Kwilson7,
Yes, that is correct however you can rename it to their Pantone name.
you can post a feature request to product engineering directly.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform&loc=en
Regards,
Sumit Singh

How do I script Illustrator to get a PANTONE swatch from a swatch library

I've been searching high and low, but cannot find the answer to this question. Quite simply, I need a script to convert all PANTONE spot colors in an Illustrator file into their CMYK equivalents fromthe PANTONE BRIDGE book.
In order to accomplish this, however, it would seem necessary for the script to search through the various PANTONE swatch library color books to find the one I'm looking for. I have a String of the one I need, but I don't see how ExtendScript can search within the various swatch libraries (or even just the one library—"PANTONE+ Color Bridge (Un)Coated". I can only seem to look at swatches that are in the main "Swatches" palette using Document.swatches. Any ideas?

I'm afraid that code gives me an 'MRAP' error in the ESTK. But, I have actually found a way around the problem by utilizing your original suggestion of having a separate file with all of the Pantone swatches added to it so the script can grab that swatch, grab its getInternalColor, turn it into a CMYKColor, then assign the values retrieved from getInternalColor to the new swatch's four Color properties.
Yes, it's a bit of a roundabout method and takes a lot of code, but it gets the job done quickly, and that's what I need. Here's the code I have (The "workDoc" has already been assigned to the currently open document.):
// To finish up, we delete the other two layers beyond the first and then save the file for use as digital printing file.
// First, delete the two layers.
workDoc.layers[2].locked = false;
workDoc.layers[2].remove();
workDoc.layers[1].locked = true;
//          workDoc.layers[1].remove();
// Before grouping and mirroring all of the artwork, it's time to convert all spot colors to process
// using the PANTONE Bridge book as a reference.
// First, let's open up the reference document that has all of the PANTONE Bridge book colors as swatches.
var bridgeDoc = app.open(File("~/Documents/PantoneBridge.ai"));
// Since attempting to colorize textFrame objects seems to crash Illustrator, we're best off just converting them all to paths anyway.
var texts = workDoc.textFrames;
for (var t = 0; t < texts.length; t++)
          texts[t].createOutline();
var items = workDoc.pathItems;
for (var i = 0; i < items.length; i++)
          var myPath = items[i];
          if (myPath.fillColor .typename == "SpotColor")
                    try {var procSwatch = workDoc.swatches.getByName(myPath.fillColor.spot.name + "P");}
                              catch (e) {var procSwatch = addProcSwatch(myPath.fillColor.spot.name + "P", bridgeDoc.swatches);}
                    changePaths(myPath.fillColor.spot.name, procSwatch.color);
          if (myPath.fillColor.typename == "GradientColor")
                    for (var g = 0; g < myPath.fillColor.gradient.gradientStops.length; g++)
                              var gStop = myPath.fillColor.gradient.gradientStops[g].color;
                              if (gStop.typename == "SpotColor")
                                        try {var procSwatch = workDoc.swatches.getByName(gStop.spot.name + "P");}
                                                  catch (e) {var procSwatch = addProcSwatch(gStop.spot.name + "P", bridgeDoc.swatches);}
                                        changePaths(gStop.spot.name, procSwatch.color);
          if (myPath.strokeColor .typename == "SpotColor")
                    try {var procSwatch = workDoc.swatches.getByName(myPath.strokeColor.spot.name + "P");}
                              catch (e) {var procSwatch = addProcSwatch(myPath.strokeColor.spot.name + "P", bridgeDoc.swatches);}
                    changePaths(myPath.strokeColor.spot.name, procSwatch.color);
          if (myPath.strokeColor.typename == "GradientColor")
                    for (var g = 0; g < myPath.strokeColor.gradient.gradientStops.length; g++)
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                                                  catch (e) {var procSwatch = addProcSwatch(gStop.spot.name + "P", bridgeDoc.swatches);}
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var checkForTint = false;
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          if (myRaster.channels == 1 && myRaster.colorizedGrayscale) {if (myRaster.colorizedGrayscale) {bitmapFound = true;}}
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                              try {var rastSwatch = workDoc.swatches.getByName(myRaster.colorants[0] + "P");}
                                        catch (e) {var rastSwatch = addProcSwatch(myRaster.colorants[0] + "P", bridgeDoc.swatches);}
                              changeRasters(myRaster.colorants[0], rastSwatch.color);
if (bitmapFound) {alert("Found at least one colorized raster image in the Digital file. Please manually change their colorants to CMYK.\nPlease see Chris McGee for more information.");}
if (checkForTint) {alert("At least one raster image in the art has been converted to CMYK. However, if its former spot color was tinted less than 100%, then you will need to manually change the colorant in the Digital file to match.\nPlease see Chris McGee for more information.");}
// We should be done now with the PANTONE Bridge reference document, so close that.
bridgeDoc.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES);
app.redraw();
function addProcSwatch(swatchToGet, docSwatches)
          var bridgeSwatch = docSwatches.getByName(swatchToGet);
          var newSwatch = workDoc.swatches.add();
          var spotName = bridgeSwatch.color.spot.name;
          var spotValue = bridgeSwatch.color.spot.getInternalColor();
          newSwatch.color = CMYKColor;
          newSwatch.name = spotName;
          newSwatch.color.cyan = spotValue[0];
          newSwatch.color.magenta = spotValue[1];
          newSwatch.color.yellow = spotValue[2];
          newSwatch.color.black = spotValue[3];
          return newSwatch;
function changePaths (colorName, newColor)
          var allItems = workDoc.pathItems;
          for (var j = 0; j < allItems.length; j++)
                    var thisPath = allItems[j];
                    if (thisPath.fillColor.typename == "SpotColor" && thisPath.fillColor.spot.name == colorName)
                              var thisTint = thisPath.fillColor.tint / 100;
                              thisPath.fillColor = newColor;
                              thisPath.fillColor.cyan *= thisTint;
                              thisPath.fillColor.magenta *= thisTint;
                              thisPath.fillColor.yellow *= thisTint;
                              thisPath.fillColor.black *= thisTint;
                    if (thisPath.fillColor.typename == "GradientColor")
                              for (var g = 0; g < thisPath.fillColor.gradient.gradientStops.length; g++)
                                        var gStop = thisPath.fillColor.gradient.gradientStops[g];
                                        if (gStop.color.typename == "SpotColor" && gStop.color.spot.name == colorName)
                                                  var thisTint = gStop.color.tint / 100;
                                                  gStop.color = newColor;
                                                  gStop.color.cyan *= thisTint;
                                                  gStop.color.magenta *= thisTint;
                                                  gStop.color.yellow *= thisTint;
                                                  gStop.color.black *= thisTint;
                    if (thisPath.strokeColor.typename == "SpotColor" && thisPath.strokeColor.spot.name == colorName)
                              var thisTint = thisPath.strokeColor.tint / 100;
                              thisPath.strokeColor = newColor;
                              thisPath.strokeColor.cyan *= thisTint;
                              thisPath.strokeColor.magenta *= thisTint;
                              thisPath.strokeColor.yellow *= thisTint;
                              thisPath.strokeColor.black *= thisTint;
                    if (thisPath.strokeColor.typename == "GradientColor")
                              for (var g = 0; g < thisPath.strokeColor.gradient.gradientStops.length; g++)
                                        var gStop = thisPath.strokeColor.gradient.gradientStops[g];
                                        if (gStop.color.typename == "SpotColor" && gStop.color.spot.name == colorName)
                                                  var thisTint = gStop.color.tint / 100;
                                                  gStop.color = newColor;
                                                  gStop.color.cyan *= thisTint;
                                                  gStop.color.magenta *= thisTint;
                                                  gStop.color.yellow *= thisTint;
                                                  gStop.color.black *= thisTint;
function changeRasters (colorName, newColor)
          var allRasters = workDoc.rasterItems;
          for (var j = 0; j < allRasters.length; j++)
                    var thisRaster = allRasters[j];
                    if (thisRaster.channels > 1 && thisRaster.channels < 4 && thisRaster.colorizedGrayscale)
                              if (/^PANTONE/.test(thisRaster.colorants[0]) && thisRaster.colorants[0] == colorName)
                                        thisRaster.colorize(newColor);
                                        checkForTint = true;
// That concludes all of the color-changing steps.
I hope this helps anyone else who is running into this (admittedly unusual) situation.

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Hi all, normally when you double click on a pantone on the swatch panel, you can modify this pantone to process and the color mode as well, but in rare occasions you can't.. that options are grayed out..!
Any body knows why this happen and hot to fix it?
Unfortunately, I can't post pictures because websense restrictions here in my company about free host services, but I hope the message is well explained, and my english has no errors.
thanks for help

Ok, here are images of what I'm talking about, I hope somebody knows something about this "problem"
http://flickcabin.com/public/viewset/8276

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Can we get an update so the new PMS colors are available in the Illustrator color palette within CS4?

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I think the Color Mode is restricted to RGB. CMYK, Lab, or Mixed Ink. So in AppleScript I would get the Pantone color definition and make a new color named PANTONE Red 032 C with the model as spot like this:
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Sorry if it seems like this has been covered, but I've searched through the forums and can't find a solution.
Bog-standard install of CS 5.5 Design Standard suite on a Mac, OS 10.7.3, everything is up to date.
No networking, all apps insatlled locally, Swatches reside in /Applications/Adobe Illustrator CS5.1/Presets/en_US/Swatches/Color Books.
I'm logged in to an admin account.
I've tried saving workspaces with the Pantone Solid Coated swatch open and marked "persistent" and nothing seems to work.

Drag this file
into
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Make this library persistent, save workspace (incase your prefs get reset in future), quit, restart illustrator. Viola.
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I click on windows/swatches/Pantone uncoated (or whatever), get a little window flash on the screen right in the middle, and then nothing. I move everything around, but still no swatches.
I've reinstalled several times, but no luck. Also, strangely enough, after reinstalling, the one swatch palette I don't want (Pantone pastels) always shows up in same place.
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AP

Try nuking prefs per
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Split line/tone Pantone swatches of same color look different

QUESTION: In Illustrator I need to split a Pantone color into two different swatches (line and tone). When I duplicate the swatch and rename it with an "L" in front, the color looks different (with overprint preview)! Same CMYK values – I checked. I know it has something to do with how the swatch is named, because if I rename both swatches I don't have this problem. What's going on and how can I fix this?

John Danek wrote:
Not sure, but I would not recommend renaming Pantone Spot color swatches. What's the point? I mean, why would you mess with the names?
I think they wants to use one swatch for certain parts of elements like the stroke and and perhaps the other for fills but of different and not necessarily common paths.
Changing the name make it easier for them to know which is applied to the other. There coud be a reason to keep them separate and to have the names be different to make the work flow effiecient.
I think the reason is that since they are now two different swatches it treats it as two different inks one from the book and the other from a CMYK mix.
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You cannot rename a book color.
So unless you were planning to hit the piece with two plates with the same spot color what you want to do is not possible.
I can see where you want this but I see no way of fixing it except a feature request.
Perhaps placing the same swatch in two different color groups?

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Here's a discussion from the InDesign forum that should answer your question:
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