No POST above 220 FSB out of BIOS, but soft OC ok to 250 ???

Hey again.  I was running a Winchester 3000+ on a daily basis for a year at 4xHT, 250FSB, 500MHz DDR speed @ 2.5,3,3,8 and 9x CPU multi, all hard-set in CMOS.  So, it booted at these FSB speeds during all this time, running BIOS 1.3
I switched to EASYBIOS (the modded 1C3) and ran the same setup on the Winchester for a week with no problems, then dropped in a new 3500+ Venice.
Problem:  I get no post at any FSB above 220 or so     I have to reset CMOS to get it to POST again.  I can boot at 220, and then SOFTWARE overclock to the limit of 250 (Corecenter) with no problem and not a single crash.  But it refuses to POST at those same settings in BIOS, and I'm limited to 250 by Corecenter   
At least is there software that can continue past 250?  This makes absolutely no sense to me.  My overclocks have always been more stable when set in BIOS, rather than in software.  I can continue to use Corecenter, but it's not really what I want.  The last time I tried I went for 230 at 10x CPU multi, 2.5,3,3,8 DDR, 4xHT and all I got was blackscreen, but I sit here at 2.5GHz writing this after using Corecenter:
Specs:
K8N Neo2 Platinum
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2x512 OCZ Platinum EL Rev2
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2x80GB WD in RAID0
160GB WD SATA (clone of the RAID array)
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Liteon DVD combo, Liteon DVD-Rom, NEC DVD-RW on PATA channels
Dual boot of WinXP SP1 (gaming)/WinXP SP2 (DVD editing, graphics editing, browsing, etc)
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The X2 chips don't run @ there stated speed eg 4400+, 4800+. However, have mutiple software running (as nearly everyone does) and this is where this CPU will shine. Have 2 cores with in 1 chip connecting to the socket giving upto the preformance of:
 X2 3800+ 2.0GHz 512KB
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 X2 4400+ 2.2GHz 1024KB
 X2 4600+ 2.4GHz 512KB
 X2 4800+ 2.4GHz 1024KB
As you see having 1MB+1MB cache @ 2.4GHz = 4800+, changing each cache to 512KB  @ 2.4 GHz = 4600+.  So getting a 4400+ and OCing by 200MHz (only a small OC) gives you 4800+ speeds and only costing 35%-50% less depend on where you buy. From my supplier its a £232.00 saving.
AMD's dual-core processor architecture. Source: AMD
AMD's dual-core chip up close
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=107925   <------ core info #1
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=927102     <-------------- core info #2
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-x2.html   <----- some benching from Xbits
From the benches a 4000+ vs 4800+ in 3D mark 03 is less than 500 points:

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  • MOVED: No POST above 220 FSB out of BIOS, but soft OC ok to 250 ???

    This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
    No POST above 220 FSB out of BIOS, but soft OC ok to 250 ???

    The X2 chips don't run @ there stated speed eg 4400+, 4800+. However, have mutiple software running (as nearly everyone does) and this is where this CPU will shine. Have 2 cores with in 1 chip connecting to the socket giving upto the preformance of:
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    AMD's dual-core processor architecture. Source: AMD
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    http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=927102     <-------------- core info #2
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-x2.html   <----- some benching from Xbits
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  • MOVED: Unable to O/C FSB beyond 220 FSB (K8N Neo Platinum)

    This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
    Unable to O/C FSB beyond 220 FSB (K8N Neo Platinum)

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