No realtime playback of titles

Importing simple livetype project and placing title clip into timeline, the clip shows up as "unrendered" when I try to play it back in timeline. Same result whether rendered mov or project file is imported. I can even open old projects that never had this problem and now those titles will not play back w/o rendering. Had to trash preferences yesterday and guessed I have set something wrong in my new preferences. But cannot seem to find the problem. Also had changed to higher res monitor, but problem persists when I hook up old monitor. Working in DV on a nice, fast dual G5 with 2MB RAM.

I'm guessing the problem is with your Kona card. AJA has been having issues with CS5.5 and they just released updated drivers and have split the Adobe app plugins into their own installer now on the Windows side.
Unfortunately, you say you're already using the Kona 9.1 drivers so you're in the same boat as me with the poor playback in RAM previews.
Removing the Kona card instantly put my RAM previews back to normal, but it's not a proper solution.
Here are some tips I received from AJA support on this issue a few days ago:
OPTIMUM AE Settings for best performance:
Make sure the AJA video preview setting matches the sequence.
Use a RGBA video preview setting and not RGB 10-bit.
In AE preferences -> video preview set Output Quality to Faster.
Go to Project Settings -> set color settings -> depth and set to 8-bits per channel.
Make sure you are viewing at 100% during playback.
I just put the Kona 3G card in last week and CS5.5 instantly had playback issues in both AE and Premiere. I got the 9.1 drivers AJA released this week and everything was fine after that! Halfway through a project yesterday, my RAM previews started lagging again. I'm working with AJA to resolve and if I get it figured out, I will post the solution here.

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