No Sampling Procedures in In-Process Quality Inspection (origin 03, insp. points 100)

Hi
I am facing a problem while attaching master inspection characteristics etc. in a master recipe (C202). I first specify inspection points as 100 in the recipe header (quality data section) and then I go to the operations section, select a phase and go into the area where I can attach MICs, methods and procedures. Now, no matter what kind of MICs I add there ( ones that require a sampling procedure, of course, as it is my need) it does not let me browse (F4) on the mandatory sampling procedure field. I have created all kinds of sampling procedures (freely defined inspection points, without inspection points, manual valuation, spc, fixed, 100% - all combinations) but the mandatory sampling procedure field does not let me browse for sampling procedures. If I directly type a name, it says that the procedure is not suitable for inspection points (100 that I defined) despite the sampling procedure being a freely defined inspection points one or any other. This is only in the case of inspection points/in-process/master recipe. otherwise normal GR usage 5 plans are working fine. Any help? It's urgent. Thank you!
Regards,
Bilal

No, I'm using 100 inspection points, freely defined (both in my master recipe header and sampling procedure)
And yes, the sampling procedure does have the radio button selected for freely defined inspection points, manual valuation and fixed sample.
Like I said above I did get half of it working by making a setting in SPRO in the section that says Inspection for manufacturing order. In the process order section, I selected something related to production order in one of the tabs. That now enables me to assign a sampling procedure to a characteristic (SP with freely defined insp points) but it still doesn't let me browse (F4) for a sampling procedure eventhough there are 3-4 suitable procedures. I directly have to type them and press enter. Cannot F4/browse procedures.

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Thanks for your prompt reply.
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Dear friends,
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