No scaling with mercury engine (Cinemascope to HD for playback)

Hi
I have a Blackmagic Extreme 3D+ card installed in my 12-core Mac Pro running AE CC 2014.
When I playback an HD composition (1920x1080) the video is playback through the mercury engine fine.
But when I have a cinemascope composition (2048x858) the video is not played back because it does not fit the aspect ratio I assume.
When I playback the same resolution and aspect ratio e.g. in DaVinci Resolve the video is scaled and played back as a correct Letterbox through the same card.
Of course I can set my AE comp to HD or nest my comp into a new HD comp but it would be great if it would play out directly doing the scaling.
Is there a way to achieve this scaled playback or is Adobe doing something about it?
I think this would be very important.
Regards,
Uli

Hi
Finally Blackmagic updated their Desktop Video Software to make it "customizable" in AE 2014.
Well the setup dialogue in AE video preferences gives three options:
No output: which means "off"
center: which cuts off the picture if you are working with material wider than HD (like Scope, or everything that needs to be letterboxed)
scale to fit: which distorts the picture awfully because it fits everything into a wrong aspect ratio
What we would need is just what is in AE:
Like "fit to width" which would maintain the right aspect ratio and scale a scope into HD.
This should be possible I think. Otherwise nesting into a HD sequence is the only way again.
(DaVinci does it, easydcp does it, all with the same BM card)
Regards,
Uli

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I Took the OP's "enabled" to really mean "accelerated", and in that sense, it will not work as without the necessary graphics card there will be no acceleration.
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