No Secondary IDE Channel

Howdy,
I purchased a KT7A Pro board. Upon installing it I found that I could not get the secondary IDE channel to recognize my drives.
I enabled it in the BIOS (Lateset) but nothing worked. I tried changing cables and jumpers & everything else that you could think of, but nothing worked. The primary channel would pick everything up just fine, but when I tried them on the secondary....zilch.
Okay...Bad Motherboard I figured so I went and exchanged it. In the process of taking out my Athlon XP 1700, I would up damaging it, so now I'm really PO'd.
Upon exchanging the board and getting a new 1700 chip you'd think that all was well....Nope, Nada.
Same problem, Secondary Channel will not work on the board. I am really disappointed as I like the features of the board, I just want my secondary channel to work.
I got a promise card and all the drives work great. They consist of 2 80GB WD, a 32X10X24 CDRW and a 16X DVD. I'm running Win XP Pro with 1GB of RAM and I have a GeForce2 400MX with 64 MB .
What can I do to get the secondary channel to work, or what other options do I have?
Thanks

I posted here at the end of January with the SAME problem.. I've got a K7T Turbo2, and the same thing is happening, the secondary IDE channel isn't picking anything up. I figured the board was defective, asked here AND asked an MSI tech through e-mail. I took the board back to the store and had them order another one for me, but I'm still having the same problem..
I've tried every drive configuration under the sun, swapping cables, trying drives one by one, enabling and disabling random things that should have nothing do with the price of rice in china, but nothing. Any clues would help, I can't keep taking boards back to the store.

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