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all the computers are getting the same error. the only way i have found around this is with the autoconfig. but with that the router has no security obviously. when i tried that approach i was then unable to connect to the router to change the settings so i could re-lock my router.
as it stands now i have a WRE54G v.3 sitting in front of me like i just pulled it out of the box and i have been all over the forums and nothing has worked yet
any help would be a appreciated.

You can follow this link in order to configure the range expander.

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Question about WLAN Site Surveys with 802.11n APs - 1142s

I do site surveys a little differently that everyone else nowadays, I believe. In the past, I used an autonomous 1230 or 1240, but now I use a lightweight 1142. I configure a port in a room to be on the AP VLAN and I connect my 1142 to the port and hang it where I want - it then gets on the controller and start broadcasting just like the finished product will. This works well except for the time it takes me to configure a port on the switch and the bootup time for the AP. I'm one of the Networks Architects on a campus of almost 200 buildings, so I have access to all the routers and switches and can configure anything I need while onsite.
Now I want to have someone else (in-house) to do our surveys - but this person(s) does not have access to switches and routers, and that won't ever change.
I tried configuring a lightweight 1142 in HREAP mode to handoff to this person, but it appears the power and channel settings don't stick on the 5 GHz side.
Scrapping that idea, I now have to build out an autonomous 1142 for site surveying. I missed out on this step because I went from buying 1242s (can jump between lightweight and autonomous) to 1142s (which didn't have an autonomous image at that time, I believe). This is why I started surveying with lightweight 1142s.
I'm curious if anyone has gone through the configuration of an autonomous 1142 and wouldn't mind sharing their "lessons learned". I haven't seen a matrix of features that are supported/not supported on 1142s when configured for lightweight vs. autonomous.
I currently aim for designing around the 5 GHz radios set to 10 dBm, 20% cell overlap. I also turn on 40 MHz channels in 5 GHz range. This usually ends up with an AP in every other or every third classroom, depending on how old the building is and how many times it has been renovated. I can't "just throw APs out there" since each building is different - some are thin concrete block, some are poured cement, and some are block with metal mesh and stucco. Those usually end up with on AP per classroom.
Does anyone have a matrix on what can and cannot be turned on in an autonomous AP? I would like to get my config as close to the lightweight scenario we deploy for all of our production WLANs.

There is no matrix as to what you're asking for. I've done conversions and configurations of AP's from Lightweight to Autonomous and vice-versa. The configuration of the autonomous AP can be identical to the Lightweight AP from a client perspective.
My current setup has 3 SSID's (VoIP, Data, and Guest) on the autonomous AP. Couple things I do:
1. PoE powered AP through a Tessco power pack.
2. VLANs have to be enabled on the AP (1 for each SSID)
3. The SSID's will have to be created and each AP mapped to a VLAN
4. The SSID's will be need to be enabled on both radios if desired.
The easiest way to configure the AP is to power it with either the power cord.
Console into the AP and let it boot. Assign an IP address to the BVI 1 interface.
Assign an IP address on the wired NIC of our laptop and plug an ethernet cable into the AP's ethernet port.
Configure the AP as listed above via the web gui.
This is by no means a complete answer, but your questions were all over the map.
Regards,
Jerry

Looking for a beginners guide ot site survey

Good evening,
Getting ready to do a site survey of a rather large facility... About to switch to an entirely different wireless nic (intel 3945ABG) which isnt performing as well as its cousin, 2200BG. Reviewing the stats of the cards it doesnt make sense as intel claims (from my understanding) the 3945 is more sensitive.
Given the sheer size (220,000+ sq feet) of my facility i want to ensure i do this correctly the first time around. I have the given equipment which will be deploying this card.
What i have done in the past for resolving some issues is going every 5 feet and recording by hand the SNR using something along lines of netstumbler. Is this correct?
any suggestions will be great.

Hi Robert,
Here is some info that may help;
Wireless Site Survey FAQ
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_q_and_a_item09186a00805e9a96.shtml
This Excel macro tool is designed to work with NetStumbler to help you complete a wireless site survey. While running NetStumbler, the macro allows you to timestamp your live access points, collect signal levels of each access point, and export the raw NetStumbler data to create a handy report.
http://whitepapers.zdnet.com/download.aspx?docid=177121&promo=100400
Hope this helps!
Rob

Conducting a Site Survey

Does anyone where I can find a site survey checklist for installing a network infrastructure?
I'm looking for something to document when assessing a new office location to setup a network for a small business.

I have jotted down a few of the important things that need to be considered for setting up a network infrastructure.
The following questions must be answered regarding installation site readiness:
1. Are there any special site considerations (this can include using specific building entrances,
security check points, reception desks, etc)
2. Are all the original console and auxiliary cables, interface adaptors and rack mounting hardware
available if necessary?
3. Where is the equipment physically being installed? In a rack or on a table?
4. Is the necessary power available?
5. Is the WAN circuit installed and connection ready for the installation (i.e. - CSU/DSU installed
and configured, frame-relay active, etc.)?
6. Is the LAN connection available and ready for installation?
7. Is there an analog phone line within 50 feet of the installation location for dial up access?
8. Are the cables you have received of the correct length and presentation for the LAN and WAN
connectivity for your site?
9. Have the relevant TELCO lines been installed and working?

Wireless Site-Survey for High Density Environment

Hi,
I have done many Wireless SIte-Surveys in my career. But this will the first time, I am going to do a Site-Survey for High Density environment (School with Byod 1:1 design).
Currently, the school has a Wireless network in place. The current wireless design includes 3502 APs, 5508 WLC and Cisco Prime. The customer has issues with sufficient bandwidth in classrooms which limiting the students and teachers to access the learning content.
It is understood that there was no initial Site-Survey conducted, the AP positioning was made based on their knowledge.
Now, I am not sure as how to conduct the Survey here?
Do I need to conduct an Active Survey by connecting to the existing Wireless Network in the School? Or just passive Survey will be enough to determine the exact issues with the current design and provide the recommendations?
I have gone through the Cisco High Density design and white papers to start with.
Thanks,
CJ

Before you do the site survey, I'd do the initial breakdown of the LAN.
1. What kind of switch ports are we talking about?
2. Are the APs connected AND negotiated to 1 Gbps ports?
3. What is/are the switch uplinks? 100 Mbps, 1- or 10- Gbps, Etherchannel?
4. Line errors on the links between the AP and the switch, uplinks and the link between the WLC and the switches?
5. WLC link? How many are used? Are they LAG or not?
6. Configuration of the WLC must be checked.
Once you've checked these do I start talking about wireless:
1. What problems are the staff/students experiencing?
2. How many APs to a classroom? How big is the class?
3. Determine what kind of traffic are each class trying to push?
4. Where are the APs located in relations to the staff/student?
5. Verify co-channel interferrence. I know they have 3502 but I've seen people disable CleanAir.
6. Verify what kind of NIC cards are used and whether drivers have been updated or not.
I'm in the middle of improving our wireless coverage in >98 schools. This means I am now deploying 1 AP per classroom. In areas where the students/staff converge, I put additional APs (both indoors and outdoors).

Best practice power setting when doing a Site Survey for VOIP

Hi Team,
Can someone please confirm or correct me. When doing a Wireless Active Site Survey for Cisco VOIP, I should be setting the Test AP to local power of 14, which is 25mW? Is this correct, or should it be another value? I asked the customer for the power of their weakest client and they do not know, but they claim there's a high probably that they will go with Cisco VOIP clients.
Thanks...

When you check the signal coverage, make sure the AP's radio transmit power does not use a transmit power greater than what the client devices can support. For example, by default, the Cisco Unified Wireless IP Phone 7925G uses the highest available transmit power by default (17 dBm / 50 mW for 2.4 GHz and 16 dBm / 40 mW for 5 GHz). It is possible to have a survey report that shows good coverage in all areas; however, if you have APs that operate at the highest transmit power, you might still experience uplink issues where the client devices do not support the same transmit power. For areas where there is deficient coverage, and you increase the AP transmit power to levels that the client devices cannot support, this only increases coverage on the downlink.
Link for the same :-
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/5500-series-wireless-controllers/116057-site-survey-guidelines-wlan-00.html

Showing Full AP name in cisco Wireless phone 7921-site survey

Hi,
I am working on a project where cisco wireless phone 7921 is utilized. We use phones sitesurvey tool for coverage tests. Our AP names are 18 characters in length and are not dispayed in full in site survey screen. Please suggest on a way to increase the display character count in the site survey or to make it a running text. Thank you.
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Hi Leo,
Thanks for the suggestion. I looked at the Fluke OptiView XG Network Analysis Tablet. Looks very interesting, but looking at the cost of the Tablet, I am pretty sure that my Employer will say NO.
Anyways, Can you recommend some vendor options (It will be really helpful, if you can share the Model information as well) for the list highlighted below.
1. AP Tripod (Reaches 3 meters max) - Need recommendation on AP Telescopic Tripod which should be portable to carry in the Peli Case.
2. Distance measuring tool - Need recommendation on this.
3. Laptop harness - I did some research and found Connect-A-Desk Laptop Harness, which I am planning to purchase
Also, I need your inputs in choosing Antennas for Site-Survey Kit (I am looking at must to have options for the Kit).
Thanks,
CJ

Detail workflow for site survey?

Hi All,
I am new in this field. I had saw some information and I can catch the basic meaning of wireless LAN. But I can not find any information about the detail workflow when doing site survey and how to work when an AP doing as site survey client, also when a bridge work as a repeater. When will a client doing a site survey? and the detail workflow of site survey? Is there any problem that may make site survey fail? Does any body know it? Can any body give me a hand? Thank You!
Best Regards
Teru Lei

Here are a few URL's that should help you with the site survey. These links have a list of things that could interfere with the site survey. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wireless/airo_350/350cards/windows/incfg/win5_apf.htm http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/wireless/airo_350/accsspts/ap350scg/ap350ch3.htm#1016921

Site Surveys

I am conducting some inside site surveys, I have a lot of documentation on doing a survey and have good equipment but one question I have is what should be the minimum signal strength or quality that I want to look for? For example I am thinking that a signal strength of 10 percent is as low as I want to go and would consider that the edge of the range for that access point. I am just wondering if there is a suggested limit or rule to go by.
Thanks for your help in advance.

Hi ,
It depend upon how much bandwidth is required for your application .
As you move away from AP , throughput decreases from 11 to 5.5 to 2 to 1 .
Now Signal Stregth is DIFFERENT THAN singnal quality . Good Signal Strength does not mean always good singal quality .
What you should look for is SIGNAL QUAILITY . Multipath reduces signal quaility .
I would day keep more than 30% signal quality . There is no guide line for deciding this threshold . It is upto your desing that how much overlap you want between two adjacent cell .
Roaming of users not only depend on signal strength and quality it is also depend on # of hope the backbone is away and other factors ....
I hope this helps ....

Site Survey Tools for 802.11b, g

Hello,
Can anyone recommend a suitable tool?
Fairly new to WiFi and require to perform a site survey to ascertain appropraite equipment deployment based on SNR, RF interference levels, etc.
Tool can be shareware or commercial product?
All help appreciated.

http://www/en/US/products/sw/cscowork/ps3915/index.html but it's not shareware/freeware.

Site Survey Fail?

"Site Survey Failed" is the message I keep gettting when trying to setup my Wireless-G Expander on my computer. I am using a Wireless-G broadband router on my main computer, was told to buy the range expander to help retreive the signal across the house to the other computer which is using Wireless-G USB Adapter, so that it to has internet. Please help, thank you!

Are you using the set-up CD on for the range expander? Better configure the range expander manually for faster resolution if it fails. If your actual wireless network is unsecured, you might just as well press the Autoconfig Button of the range expander for 15 seconds, and if you get 2 blue lights on the range expander that should be all fine.

Cisco 3502i in autonomous mode - for site survey

Hi,
Last year I was able to load autonomous mode IOS to a cisco 3502i to do the site survey using instructions at following thread.
https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2084624
This year I have to do site survey for a different site and need to do the same process. However on the CCO I don't see the autonomous image. Under downloads -> products -> wireless -> access points -> Cisco 3502i I see IOS link and when clicked there is gives
ap3g1-k9w8-tar.124-23c.JA4.tar. I even loaded that IOS but it seems to be light weight mode IOS.
After reading a few different threads somebody clarified that K7 = IOS and K8 = Lightweight. However I can't seem to find the lightweight mode anywhere.
https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2140629
Can somebody guide me? I need to run this code only for the site survey and totally understand the fact that Cisco would not support such configuration.
Thanks in advance,

Sorry to inform you but there is no autonomous code for the 3500. You could however use the 1140 code. But this not supported by Cisco but it does work ..
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Cisco Aironet Site Survey Utility with Windows Vista

Where can I download the Cisco Site Survey utility that is supported by Vista?

I to do wonder about this. It would be grand to get an answer from someone at Cisco about this..

Wireless site survey planner tool for multi floor office building

Hi,
I'm looking a wireless site survey planner tool for multi floor office building to estimate the number of APs and location. Not the site survey after install APs.
AigMagnet is excellent for single floor but cannot provide multi floor scenario via planner feature even it merging capable with site survey after APs installation.
Any tools can provide the planner tool for multi floor office building?
Thanks in advance,

Cj
If you are looking for an AP estimate you can simply do the sq feet divided into the grade of wireless. For example
You have a 100,000 feet building. All 100,000 sq feet will be wireless.
Data 5,000 - 6.000 sq feet per AP or 100,000 / 5,000 = 20 access points
VoIP 2,500 sq feet per AP or 100,000 / 2,500 = 40 access points
I always like to pad it by another 10%.
I hope this helps â¦

Site survey

Hi
What is the best way of doing a site survey when APs are managed by a controller? What I mean is that the AP can be set to different power level when there is a low and high number of clients - in such case a survey may not deliver correct data (when it's done with a small number of clients associated to APs), or I got it wrong?
Any suggestions? Best practices?
Thanks.

Thanks for the reply. I do not have much experience with WLANs so I do appreciate your help.
Have you done a site survey prior to the install?
- I was told the survey was done. I need to contact the company and get the information.
If you are doing a post site survey, there are various ways you can go about doing it.
- This is what I like to do. I want to get the picture of the running WLAN. I think the passive survey is the way to go in such case - am I on the correct track?
If you had a site survey done and they surveyed using 50mw for example, then you can globally set the power for the AP's and then I would freeze the DCA so the AP's won't change while doing your survey. This way you can see if the survey that was done, provided you with the coverage required.
- I can see that we had 2 channel changes in last 7 days, so freezing the DCA shouldn't cause any problems (right?).
- Can I trust that the WLC sets the APs to the best settings in terms of power level and channel? Is it worth coming on weekend and set APs to specific settings and how it reflects on the survey?
- How can I globally change the APs power level?
The exercise needs to help me to decide if I shall add APs or not.
Thanks.

Site survey tools for ipad

Hi,
I was trying to find some apps for iPad/iPad mini which are useful in conducting a wireless site-survey. Any app which will scan air and gives list of available wireless networks along with their RSSI/SNR values.
I found one app WIFI Analyzer, but it is for Android.
Are there any apps available for iPhone / iPad / iPad mini?
I am planning for an outdoor survey for a location around 8-10 acres. The purpose is to provide internet services and cover most of the specified areas within park.
I've got the maps, conducted a passive survey by simulating the environment using AirMagnet planner. Now I am planning for on site survey .
Thanks,
CJ

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