No Text Bounding Box

This is a bit weird, the next thread down is also about Bounding Boxes!
I was getting on fine with Illustrator CS4 Windows, but something has happened when I enter Text mode.
If I drag the Text cursor over another object, that object gets modified in some way. If I draw in a blank area, I can draw the box OK, but there are no drag handles around it to resize the box (but there are drag handles much further out, and dragging these resizes the text).
What have I done?

View>Show Edges?
Command H?
But View Show Bounding Box is the correct answer

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Is there a way to tighten a text bounding box?

Hey all,
I've looked before but never found a definitive answer to this question:
Is there a way to tighten the text bounding box without converting it to outlines?
I work for a screen printer, and want to figure out a way to tighten the bounding box without changing the leading and without converting it to outlines in order to be able to edit said text. We deal with a lot of clients who send us names, that are often misspelled, and after an initial proof need to be corrected. Sometimes we need to center this text to an object.
Illustrator's bounding box, unlike that of Corel (which is our primary program, and won't open AI files) includes the leading below the type, so when you center it, it's not visually centered:
So I guess my real question is is there a way to get the text centered (as seen below) without converting the text to outlines, or messing with the leading, or is there a way to tighten the bounding box?
Thanks in advance!
-K

Combat and Dandreu,
You may use this silly way:
1) Tick Edit>Preferences>General>Use Preview Bounds;
2) Select the Type and Effect>Path>Outline Object.
That will reduce the Bounding Box to the actual bounds of the letters so you can centre as you wish.
Remember to untick Edit>Preferences>General>Use Preview Bounds before you get a reverse issue.

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https://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/645181/Screen+Shot+2014-06-07+a t+2.44.37+PM.png

Moving the text box is the only thing a user can do with it. The size can't be changed. You can create a custom page with the same background and add any sized text area you'd like. This tutorial describes how: 19 - Creating a Custom Page, with the Theme's Background for an iPhoto Book.
These screenshots are rough examples of adding custom text to a page:
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I am currently using CS2 working in a sign shop designing signs, banners and vehicle lettering.
When working with text I need to know the exact letter height, not the em and without the leading. I need it exactly the way it would measure if converting the text to outlines. The reason I need this information is that when I output the lettering to a cutter/plotter to cut vinyl media I need to know the exact measurement so I can nest my lettering on my media size. The media is typically 24" wide which gives me 22.5" of available space once the pinch rollers on the machine are considered. Pinch rollers are rollers that engage a knurled driving wheel and "pinches" the media between them and thus guides the media through the plotter. Of course, when using any media one must make the best use of it to avoid making scrap or using more than is needed for the job at hand. Converting text to outlines gives me that measurement.
One time awhile back I did a google search on this and found a one or two button fix that made the bounding box snap to the exact "ruler" height of the text. It worked great. But I got away from design work for a short period. When I returned I'd forgotten the process. Back when I did find it I never bookmarked or made a text file explaining the process and I'm ost in finding it again.
I don't know exactly how I worded the google search but the answer I was looking for came up on the first page. That's probably why I didn't feel the need to bookmark it or write it down. Now, I've googled dozens of different wordings for my question and get nothing. It's likely a nomenclature/jargon issue and I've yet to stumble on it again.
If anyone could help out I would so greatly appreciate it. As it is, when I get to the point that I need to know the exact ruler height of my lettering I convert my text to outlines. But then, as sometimes happens, I'll desire to change the font or try someting different but the text is not live so I'll have to start over with that line of lettering.
I sincerely hope my explanation of my questions makes sense to anyone who might be reading this.

Jacob Bugge, you are a blessing. This effect not only saves me time but avoids a lot of frustration when a client wants to change some copy or I commit a spelling error or have some other brain malfunction. Not to mention the sometimes hundreds of single words or number groups I must fit onto an artboard set to my available media space.
Option 2 is exactly what I was looking for and I'll remember it forever now as I've spent parts of the past week searching that answer only to hear over and over again, "You can't do that in Illustrator".
Thank you so much for your quick response!

Text put into a canvas element with context.fillText() always has a black box where each letter goes. If the text is black you just see the black rectangle. If the text is not black you see it on the black bounding box. Surely this is not right.

This has happened on the last few versions of firefox, as long as canvas has been supported. I see other people's screen shots from canvas tutorials, and the text always looks normal. On my system, any text put into a canvas element via context.fillText() will have a black bounding box for each letter, sized appropriately for the letter. If the text is black, of course you only see rectangles. If the text is a contrasting color, then you can read it, but it looks bizarre.

Thomas...same kind of crap here.
I used Custom Text - entered a sentence, hit return, entered another.
Set to 72 pt.
The default alignment is centred - I want left aligned text...the text start point stays at the centre of frame and the sentence runs off the edge of the bounding box.
There is no settings in the Text or Title inspector dialog to correct that!
Using Transform will not sort it!

Can you view text outside of the canvas? as with the view menu you can see animation paths, bounding boxes and handles??? many thanks

re: Motion 5
can you view text outside of the canvas? as when using the view menu you can see animation paths, bounding boxes and handles???
I'm in the middle of a text animation design treatment and unless my memory is completely failing I thought this was an option.
An example would be selecting all layers and being able to see all bounding boxes and animation paths while moving along the timeline.
Of course this could be quite a mess if you couldn't selectively chose which layers, its just with this current project it would be so helpful if
I could see the text beyond the canvas to aid in my animations.
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thanks for both of your responses
I do understand shift + v " to "Show Full View Area" and shift + z to fill screen, etc.
and command + & - for zooming
what I'd like to do is selectively view, say, the text outside of the canvas as you can see the bounding box
which contains the text or object when selecting one or all layers in the layers column
I haven't used this feature in a while though I do recall using it in the past.
Any help would greatly appreciated
thanks,
R.

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Illustrator CS4.
I am trying to align some text to the center of the artboard. The bounding box is bigger than the text, so when I try to align it to the artboard it doesn't actually center align the artwork as I need it to. The text is needing to be aligned with another text object, so I can't just center align the text and then align to the artboard (which would eliminate the bounding box problem, I think). To make matters worse, the text I want to align has a stroke.
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The solution is to simple to believe and probably why you over looked it.
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Like such:
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How to get bounds of bounding box of text item.

Hi all,
I am trying to get the bounds of bounding box of paragraph text item. I found the following link,
the coordinate of a bounding box is the same as the layer's coordinate?
But the solution doesn't work for me. It gives me the layer's bound every time i.e. the bounds of actual text.
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getTextExtents: function (layer) {
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var height = bounds.getUnitDoubleValue (stringIDToTypeID('bottom'))
var x_scale = 1
var y_scale = 1
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var width = bounds.getUnitDoubleValue (stringIDToTypeID('right'))
var height = bounds.getUnitDoubleValue (stringIDToTypeID('bottom'))
var x_scale = 1
var y_scale = 1
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x_scale = transform.getUnitDoubleValue (stringIDToTypeID('xx'))
y_scale = transform.getUnitDoubleValue (stringIDToTypeID('yy'))
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x:Math.round(text_item.position[0]),
y:Math.round(text_item.position[1]),
width:Math.round(width*x_scale),
height:Math.round(height*y_scale)
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x:Photoshop.getLayerLeft(layer),
y:Photoshop.getLayerBottom(layer),
width:Photoshop.getLayerWidth(layer),
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My computer crashed while using Adobe Illustrator and when rebooting I have lost the bounding box when typing text. Now I am unable to resize my text. Any suggestions on how to get the bounding box back? Clicking the direct selection tool does nothing. I can outline the text but still no bounding box to grab and resize.
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I need to create an interactive PDF form which will contain images, text and fields.
This is how it would be laid out:
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Depending on what they select, I need the following to be displayed.
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This I could achieve! But now if I select "2" I would need the bounding box to automatically become taller to accommodate two rows with "Username <blank> Password <blank>
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If you were to look at the spec for PDF, you'd see that that is probably not possible with a PDF file.
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As a self-taught Illustrator CS3 user I keep running into confounding issues. The latest is this:
Artboard is US letter size. I have a placed jpg image in the top half that extends beyond the artboard on one side. Only want 3/4 of the jpg content
in the final product.
Some text at the bottom.
All in all a basic poster.
A clipping mask hides the part of the image that extends past the arboard.
I save this 'parent' Ai file as a copy PDF - no layers - no editing - no thumbnails ect. Keep original Ai parent file for later editing.
I want to put this PDF into another ai document, but when I do, the bounding box extends past the pdf content out to
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PDF that in Preview shows correctly but when placed in another ai file somehow 'becomes' larger with a bounding box that includes much more than what is actually there.
This is maddeningly stupid IMO.
Hope someone can be that patient professor of the design/Illustrator course that I can't afford, but that I need so desperately all the time.

Why?
I don't know; I just chalk it up as another instance of the sloppiness that permeates Illustrator, and the convoluted multiple nested clipping paths so common in PDFs.
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In CS4 and CS5, Adobe finally fixed the silliness of displaying edges of masked portions of the content of clipping paths, so in those versions, it probably acts the way you want whether linked or embedded. (I only have CS3 on this laptop, so can't verify right now.)
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The full-rasterization technique in the original post fixes the problem, yes. I experimented with quite a few other settings along this line including letting the printer handle color and setting the mode to PS2. Nothing - as before - corrected the issue.
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